Castanza Posted February 6 Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, Sweet said: From independence until the 1950s or something, immigration was preferentially European because America was a European colonial project. The laws and rules, some of which you posted, show that its wasn’t a ‘merit’ based system, immigration was geared towards European ethnicity. You may have a different concept of what America should be, but for most of its history it was in fact an ethnically European enterprise. This is a wildly generalized conclusion based on a single datapoint that ignores almost all historical context, cultural context, legal/political context, and global economic context. But hey, if you want to stick your neck out there and say "America is for whites only" based on some idea that America is still a European colonial project. You're on your own.
cwericb Posted February 6 Posted February 6 So now Trump posts a video of the Obamas made to look like apes in a jungle. And some still Think that Trump is not a raciest?
Sweet Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Castanza said: This is a wildly generalized conclusion based on a single datapoint that ignores almost all historical context, cultural context, legal/political context, and global economic context. But hey, if you want to stick your neck out there and say "America is for whites only" based on some idea that America is still a European colonial project. You're on your own. I mean, single data point of not, it’s just a fact that America was a European colonial project.
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 On 2/5/2026 at 8:32 AM, cubsfan said: Definitely. @Castanza reminded me that POTUS is a NAZI too. I plumb forgot! POTUS is not a Nazi...he's Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc. Just because there isn't mass genocide, doesn't make him an approachable dictator that's great for the country! Look at the gold he prizes on everything, his kids involvement in the politics of the country and running the government, his need to make money off everything he does even though it's a conflict of interest, the demand to rename everything after him, uses threats to get what he wants, usurps due process and the Constitution, attacks the media and free speech...you guys voted for Saddam Hussein! And you don't even fucking know it! Cheers!
adesigar Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, cwericb said: So now Trump posts a video of the Obamas made to look like apes in a jungle. And some still Think that Trump is not a raciest? Why is this news and do you really expect the cultists to care?
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 22 hours ago, cubsfan said: I have no idea what this means. But I certainly believe JD will make an awesome President. Hahahahaha! Stop it already Cubs! I just pissed my pants from laughter. The guy was on Meghan Kelly's show yesterday defending how Trump asked Katlin Collins (from CNN) why she doesn't smile more, before ripping into her and CNN as being garbage and scum. If you ever wanted to know what it would be like if Dan Quayle became President...that would be it! Dumbass, moron who has zero ability to relate to other human beings, let alone global allies and leaders. I'm pretty sure Usha Vance was Elon Musk's first Optimum robot! Ok, I'm going to watch Bonanza now...when the world made more sense and Trump would never be President! Cheers!
RichardGibbons Posted February 6 Posted February 6 3 hours ago, flesh said: My two cents, if your going to "keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you" your going against the grain but not for going against the grains sake. You'd have to have principals based on truthier stuff, defined as requiring the fewest assumptions to be true and everything is a belief but those that require fewer conditions likelier to be closer to bedrock. You'd need a strong relationship with truth, before the event. Thanks for your insightful post, Flesh. I think the truth thing can be a bit tricky as well when it comes to social "sciences" because reality is racist and sexist. Like, races aren't statistically all the same even in very measurable stuff like physical ability, and neither are the genders. But I see factual generalizations about races and genders as the start of the brain becoming racist or sexist. (One of the things that I extrapolated from "Thinking Fast and Slow" is that the various -isms are effectively a natural outcome of how human brains works--we naturally group people and form generalizations about them for heuristics. The frequent claim "kids aren't racist therefore racism is taught" is both simplistic and wrong.) So, for me, I feel like the fight to become the 1% non-genocider is a process of working out what's reasonable and ethical, and trying to view the world through that lens, rather than a completely accurate one. To achieve that, I try to focused on rules of thumb for how I want my brain to see the world. e.g. Always try to view people as individuals first, and as their group identities last. Respect isn't earned. Every human get it by default, and can only lose it. Never support any type of discrimination based on group identity. Attempts to implement discriminatory policies to improve the world in some way are toxic to society. Life isn't fair in almost any dimension. The best society can do is to allow merit to determine who gets access to opportunities while implementing economic policies that try to balance the need for both social mobility and innovation. In terms of the risk of ostracization from trying to be the 1%, there is certainly a risk there, but I think there are ways to navigate it, particularly since most of the time, it doesn't matter. Like, it certainly matters during a genocide, but that's a rare event. And I think that it's possible to stand up for your beliefs without be obnoxious about it. (I'm not good at it, but my wife is.) And really, it isn't even about standing up for your beliefs, but rather to do your bit to achieve the goals, but most of the time, anything an individual does is irrelevant to the bigger picture, so there's no reason to push. Plus, often proselytizing your beliefs might be antithetical to your underlying goals. (e.g. if people hadn't been arguing so strenuously against Trump, maybe cubs wouldn't have decided that a fascist dictatorship is a positive outcome for the USA.) I agree with your insight on the science/religion complexities.
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 16 minutes ago, adesigar said: Why is this news and do you really expect the cultists to care? It should be news...it's one of the most disgusting things I've seen from this White House so far. Not sure how any person of color could support these fuckers? As I said before, Trump is taking us back 70-80 years in terms of civil rights, race relations, due process, progressive movements, etc. How stupid are they that they left that up for 12 hours? Some lowly staffer is now the scapegoat! Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 6 Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, Parsad said: It should be news...it's one of the most disgusting things I've seen from this White House so far. Not sure how any person of color could support these fuckers? As I said before, Trump is taking us back 70-80 years in terms of civil rights, race relations, due process, progressive movements, etc. How stupid are they that they left that up for 12 hours? Some lowly staffer is now the scapegoat! Cheers! OK, I see. So you know for sure that it was Trump and not the staffer who posted the video? It is my understanding it was taken down. For good reason. But hey, we get to read the same old belly-aching that makes this thread so popular.
adesigar Posted February 6 Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, Parsad said: It should be news...it's one of the most disgusting things I've seen from this White House so far. Not sure how any person of color could support these fuckers? As I said before, Trump is taking us back 70-80 years in terms of civil rights, race relations, due process, progressive movements, etc. How stupid are they that they left that up for 12 hours? Some lowly staffer is now the scapegoat! Cheers! Not only did they leave it up they defended it. I'm sure some here will as well. Civil rights infringe on their need to feel superior. But the point I was making is why is this news. Its nothing new. Its been going on for a decade. The assholes actually want more shit like this.
dwy000 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 18 minutes ago, Parsad said: It should be news...it's one of the most disgusting things I've seen from this White House so far. Not sure how any person of color could support these fuckers? As I said before, Trump is taking us back 70-80 years in terms of civil rights, race relations, due process, progressive movements, etc. How stupid are they that they left that up for 12 hours? Some lowly staffer is now the scapegoat! Cheers! Maybe the racism is intended to distract from the pedophilia.
adesigar Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) The White House position on this before they decided to blame a "Staffer" “This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the King of the Jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King,” Leavitt said in a statement. “Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public.” Edited February 6 by adesigar
cwericb Posted February 6 Posted February 6 15 minutes ago, adesigar said: Why is this news and do you really expect the cultists to care? Just to get the cult a little more excited and proud their great leader. Funny how how the Trump supporters never seem to be embarrassed about their leader's actions no matter how disgusting or deranged he is. It's always .... "Oh but look at what "fill in the blank" did 50 years ago". However, there are others that think Trump is only a bigot, not a raciest and I post this as just as one more example of how disgusting the present President of the United States actually is. Dude is raciest to the core. Remember the old story about how honest George Washington was when he confessed to cutting down his father's cherry tree? Trump would have stolen the tree and sold it to the Russians.
Mephistopheles Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) Not trying to defend Trump but who cares about the video? Its meant as a distraction from what is really happening: trying to steal the 2026 election, which is where all of our focus should be. Maybe he is racist, maybe he is not, but it's a fact that he got the highest share of black voters of any Republican president in a long time. The people, especially black Americans, are tired of making everything about race. BTW: We don't talk enough about the blatant racism and sexism on the left. Edited February 6 by Mephistopheles
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 10 minutes ago, adesigar said: Not only did they leave it up they defended it. I'm sure some here will as well. Civil rights infringe on their need to feel superior. But the point I was making is why is this news. Its nothing new. Its been going on for a decade. The assholes actually want more shit like this. Yup...they are feeding on it! It's the bully asshole syndrome...they take pleasure in other's misfortune. They cannot stand how others do better than them...they are so ridden with envy that it eats away at them. They will do anything to get what they want. Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 10 minutes ago, adesigar said: The White House position on this before they decided to blame a "Staffer" “This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the King of the Jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King,” Leavitt said in a statement. “Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public.” The Obamas were not in that original video...these inserts were new. Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Just now, Parsad said: Yup...they are feeding on it! It's the bully asshole syndrome...they take pleasure in other's misfortune. They cannot stand how others do better than them...they are so ridden with envy that it eats away at them. They will do anything to get what they want. Cheers! LOL Sanjeev, all you guys need is a conductor for your band.
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, cwericb said: Remember the old story about how honest George Washington was when he confessed to cutting down his father's cherry tree? Trump would have stolen the tree and sold it to the Russians. No, he would have blamed it on Obama and Biden! Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, 73 Reds said: LOL Sanjeev, all you guys need is a conductor for your band. You guys definitely have a conductor for your band...he's sitting in the Oval Office posting shit to Truth Social and X! Cheers!
flesh Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, adesigar said: The White House position on this before they decided to blame a "Staffer" “This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the King of the Jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King,” Leavitt said in a statement. “Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public.” Anyone have a x twitter account? aparently the original meme video is from Xerias (@xerias_x. It might make more sense in this context, although stupid to post out of context, or in general. Personally, I'd prefer being the ape out of the options listed below, haha. Anyways, it's bad, but not as bad as portrayed, imo. There's some serious villainizing and heinous caricatures of trump out there and on this forum. This one touches the dream of lefties, blatant, hidden rascism in the hearts of righties. Video Content and Origin Depictions: The video portrayed President Trump as a lion. Other political figures were depicted as follows: Barack and Michelle Obama: Depicted as primates/apes. Joe Biden: Depicted as a baboon or primate eating a banana. Kamala Harris: Depicted as a tortoise. Hillary Clinton: Depicted as a warthog. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Depicted as a donkey. Hakeem Jeffries: Depicted as a meerkat. Zohran Mamdani: Depicted as a hyena. Music: The segment featuring the Obamas was set to the 1961 song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". Origin: The clip was traced back to a video shared in October 2025 by a conservative meme creator known as Xerias on X (formerly Twitter). Infamous Negative Caricature Tropes The "Trump Baby" Balloon: A massive, orange, diaper-clad inflatable caricature that became a global symbol of anti-Trump protests, specifically designed to mock his temperament. "Trump-Putin" Imagery: During the "Russiagate" era, numerous cartoons and memes depicted Trump in submissive or compromising positions with Vladimir Putin. Physical Features: Many negative caricatures hyper-focus on specific traits, such as: The "Flying Wig" / Wind-Blown Hair: Memes capturing his hair in high winds. Troll Doll Comparisons: Side-by-side images comparing his hair and expression to the vintage dolls. Miniaturization: Satirical art often depicts him as physically small or with "humiliatingly miniature" features.
Parsad Posted February 7 Posted February 7 2 hours ago, flesh said: Anyone have a x twitter account? aparently the original meme video is from Xerias (@xerias_x. It might make more sense in this context, although stupid to post out of context, or in general. Personally, I'd prefer being the ape out of the options listed below, haha. Anyways, it's bad, but not as bad as portrayed, imo. There's some serious villainizing and heinous caricatures of trump out there and on this forum. This one touches the dream of lefties, blatant, hidden rascism in the hearts of righties. Video Content and Origin Depictions: The video portrayed President Trump as a lion. Other political figures were depicted as follows: Barack and Michelle Obama: Depicted as primates/apes. Joe Biden: Depicted as a baboon or primate eating a banana. Kamala Harris: Depicted as a tortoise. Hillary Clinton: Depicted as a warthog. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Depicted as a donkey. Hakeem Jeffries: Depicted as a meerkat. Zohran Mamdani: Depicted as a hyena. Music: The segment featuring the Obamas was set to the 1961 song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". Origin: The clip was traced back to a video shared in October 2025 by a conservative meme creator known as Xerias on X (formerly Twitter). Infamous Negative Caricature Tropes The "Trump Baby" Balloon: A massive, orange, diaper-clad inflatable caricature that became a global symbol of anti-Trump protests, specifically designed to mock his temperament. "Trump-Putin" Imagery: During the "Russiagate" era, numerous cartoons and memes depicted Trump in submissive or compromising positions with Vladimir Putin. Physical Features: Many negative caricatures hyper-focus on specific traits, such as: The "Flying Wig" / Wind-Blown Hair: Memes capturing his hair in high winds. Troll Doll Comparisons: Side-by-side images comparing his hair and expression to the vintage dolls. Miniaturization: Satirical art often depicts him as physically small or with "humiliatingly miniature" features. What?! Are we living in the 1940's and 1950's? What type of moron in the 21st century imagines black people as ape/chimpanzee/orangutan/gorilla tropes...it doesn't matter if it was in a previously posted video and others were portrayed as animals! It's just common sense. To make it worse, it was posted on the President's own personal social media feed! It's the same stupid trope in the same vein as Jews being portrayed as rats. And you justify it or think the outrage was excessive because there are images of Trump out there. There are tons of images of the Obamas out there...well before Trump ever got into office. What about all of the "Biden falling", "Biden sleeping", Biden dementia" images out there? How many of Trump's images were on the Obama's or Biden's social media feed? How many depicted a racist trope of Trump?
Parsad Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Again, this fucking guy is the U.S. president: https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/06/politics/judge-orders-trump-unfreeze-ny-infrastructure-funds You guys should call him Pharaoh! Cheers!
Mephistopheles Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Maybe he lost some of those record black votes over this. Most likely he did. You gotta hope that he keeps posting stupid shit. He has dementia and it will only get worse. Thank God
73 Reds Posted February 7 Posted February 7 14 hours ago, Parsad said: You guys definitely have a conductor for your band...he's sitting in the Oval Office posting shit to Truth Social and X! Cheers! And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on.........
John Hjorth Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Russian-Ukrainian war : YouTube : Anders Puck Nielsen [February 6th 2026] : Why are the peace talks not working? - - - o 0 o - - - Pretty hard to to see a constructive way forward, to get this war to end. In a short time, soon, war for four years! Me : Meh ...
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