Sweet Posted February 3 Posted February 3 11 minutes ago, Parsad said: With all the crap we read in the Politics section, something a little more courageous and life affirming! Cheers! https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/03/australia/australia-teen-saves-family-scli-intl I saw that, and I don’t understand how a shark didn’t get him. Kids a hero though.
Parsad Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Agreed. Theyre retarded. Like obviously if Mexico and South America are below you....thats going to be what the majority of illegal immigrants look like....these folks are shot. Overshoot one way, overshoot the other way. Some stability would go a long way. Yeah I agree. I mean the world could do without the name calling "Somali's are garbage", etc. But that's Trump's MO...get people scared enough to hate another group, and then run them out of town. He's the asshole landowner boss in Westerns who hates the Chinese and Mexicans...literally! He's even got the petulant brat sons who do his bidding and he scares the shit out of even his own supporters. The only thing missing is a boisterous, evil laugh! And unfortunately, the Magnificent Seven in this case, is a bunch of tech CEO nerds who are scared of him too! No Yul Brynner in this group...even though Bezos is bald! Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 3 Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Sanjeev [ @Parsad ], I suppose you deleted your original post and reposted with correct link - second time with working link - however it does not matter much here! - Here is what I got from your original post! : Yeah, I'm getting a lag when I publish a post on here...is it happening to anyone else? To me it's been happening for a few weeks, and I have very fast internet. So I think I may have clicked back when it wasn't finishing the post, and then it reposted or something. Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 3 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Sweet said: I saw that, and I don’t understand how a shark didn’t get him. Kids a hero though. Yeah amazing! He's also on crutches in one of the pictures...don't know if he hurt himself, or he's usually on crutches. Either way...brave little guy! Cheers!
John Hjorth Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yeah, I'm getting a lag when I publish a post on here...is it happening to anyone else? To me it's been happening for a few weeks, and I have very fast internet. So I think I may have clicked back when it wasn't finishing the post, and then it reposted or something. Cheers! Off topic, but in seriousness : Yes, I think it's Cloudflare teasing us all! It a real PITA, at times. The number of drafts to [always lengthy] posts I've lost here since the implementation of Cloudflare is almost beyond imagination! CofB&F draft cache vs. Cloudflare! -I'm rooting for CofB&F cache! It was so nice, awesome, to get it in the last forum software migration, then so disappointing to get it - well, partly - revoked by Cloudflare. - - - o 0 o - - - Likely hosting security policies, because of all kinds of bad guys! Oh welll! Edited February 3 by John Hjorth
cwericb Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Sweet said: If you entered the country illegally, you are a criminal. Perhaps most of the unauthorised immigrants are non-white. Sorry, I meant violent criminals.
cwericb Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Parsad said: I don't see it as blatant racism. There was a huge problem that other administrations did not fix (including both Dems and Republicans). But the way they executed and targeted citizens, journalists, critics, etc...just a whole other level and it's just not legal or right! Cheers! You said... "But that's Trump's MO...get people scared enough to hate another group, and then run them out of town." ... and that's not raciest? Oh he is a raciest alright............. Just look at his remarks about Somalians and other Africans being 'garbage', except the whites from South Africa, of course. Trump has a long history of racism. That's not raciest? "U.S. President Donald Trump lashed out against Somali immigrants Tuesday, calling them "garbage" who "contribute nothing" to the country." How about "....Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit. "Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking disabled people – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted." Remember his rants about how Obama was not born in the US and he was actually African? How about his statement after a white supremacist rally, when he stated there were "very fine people on both sides" ? What about when Trump told four congresswomen of colour to "go back" to the "crime-infested places from which they came. Then there are the Haitians he accused of eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. "In 1973 the Department of Justice sued Trump and his company for refusing to rent to Black tenants. He settled the suit without admitting wrongdoing." Oh Donald Trump is a raciest alright, and has been for years. Edited February 4 by cwericb
cwericb Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Parsad said: Yeah, I'm getting a lag when I publish a post on here...is it happening to anyone else? To me it's been happening for a few weeks, and I have very fast internet. So I think I may have clicked back when it wasn't finishing the post, and then it reposted or something. Cheers! Yes it used to be a post would appear immediately after clicking "Save" now there is a lag of 10? seconds or so.
cubsfan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, cwericb said: You said... "But that's Trump's MO...get people scared enough to hate another group, and then run them out of town." ... and that's not raciest? Oh he is a raciest alright............. Just look at his remarks about Somalians and other Africans being 'garbage', except the whites from South Africa, of course. Trump has a long history of racism. That's not raciest? "U.S. President Donald Trump lashed out against Somali immigrants Tuesday, calling them "garbage" who "contribute nothing" to the country." How about "....Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit. "Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking disabled people – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted." Remember his rants about how Obama was not born in the US and he was actually African? How about his statement after a white supremacist rally, when he stated there were "very fine people on both sides" ? What about when Trump told four congresswomen of colour to "go back" to the "crime-infested places from which they came. Then there are the Haitians he accused of eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. "In 1973 the Department of Justice sued Trump and his company for refusing to rent to Black tenants. He settled the suit without admitting wrongdoing." Oh Donald Trump is a raciest alright, and has been for years. Yeah, he's such a racist he picked up 48% of the Hispanic vote, and 25% of the black male vote. No Republican has ever done that.
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, cwericb said: You said... "But that's Trump's MO...get people scared enough to hate another group, and then run them out of town." ... and that's not raciest? Oh he is a raciest alright............. Just look at his remarks about Somalians and other Africans being 'garbage', except the whites from South Africa, of course. Trump has a long history of racism. That's not raciest? "U.S. President Donald Trump lashed out against Somali immigrants Tuesday, calling them "garbage" who "contribute nothing" to the country." How about "....Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit. "Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking disabled people – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted." Remember his rants about how Obama was not born in the US and he was actually African? How about his statement after a white supremacist rally, when he stated there were "very fine people on both sides" ? What about when Trump told four congresswomen of colour to "go back" to the "crime-infested places from which they came. Then there are the Haitians he accused of eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. "In 1973 the Department of Justice sued Trump and his company for refusing to rent to Black tenants. He settled the suit without admitting wrongdoing." Oh Donald Trump is a raciest alright, and has been for years. Trump is not a true racist...he's a bigot! He grew up with that stuff and he believes that stuff. He doesn't think any specific race is beneath him, he thinks everyone is beneath him and that different cultures are inferior unless they are first nation, developed countries. He has racists and other idiots in his support group because he knows he has their vote...otherwise he wouldn't give two shits about them. In fact, Trump doesn't really give two shits about anyone other than himself. His motto is "Take care of Trump first, and everything else will take care of itself!" He's also an extremely envious, narcissistic prick who will seek revenge on anyone who ruins his moment, including the paperboy who accidentally throws the newspaper into a puddle! He's actually far more dangerous than a plain old dumbass racist! Cheers!
Mephistopheles Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Trump isn’t a racist. Trump loves Trump and anyone else who loves him, regardless of their race. I think playing the race card really hurts the cause here. Identity politics ruined the left and brought us Trump. Having said that, the immigrant thing is a classic authoritarian scapegoating trick. Get a base riled up by telling em they are victims and villify a certain group of people. Illegal immigrants, Jews, whatever. Suppress journalists, make a police state, attempt to steal elections, erode democracy. Yada yada Edited February 4 by Mephistopheles
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 The British are taking their citizens to task for being in the Epstein files, and the Clintons will be testifying and answering questions on Bill's predilections. So why isn't the world getting fully unredacted copies of the Epstein files as the U.S. federal judges have demanded! Oh we know why... ...So that's how Putin got Trump's "pee pee" tape! And probably why Trump is kissing Putin's ass. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15523537/US-tracked-Epsteins-Moscow-links-1970s-claims-ex-MI6-Russia-chief.html Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 4 Posted February 4 14 hours ago, Parsad said: With all the crap we read in the Politics section, something a little more courageous and life affirming! Cheers! https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/03/australia/australia-teen-saves-family-scli-intl "With all the crap we read in the Politics section"... hmm, you sanctioned the "politics section" and you are one of its most prolific posters. So where do you reckon the "crap" comes from? So if you don't like it, why don't you fix it?
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, 73 Reds said: "With all the crap we read in the Politics section"... hmm, you sanctioned the "politics section" and you are one of its most prolific posters. So where do you reckon the "crap" comes from? So if you don't like it, why don't you fix it? Because you numbnuts' will spread it like wildfire to other threads! It's containment of your shit! So why don't you try to fix it first!
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, 73 Reds said: "With all the crap we read in the Politics section"... hmm, you sanctioned the "politics section" and you are one of its most prolific posters. So where do you reckon the "crap" comes from? So if you don't like it, why don't you fix it? Also, the easiest way to "fix it" is to just get rid of the small minority that sits on the extreme right...do you think that really fixes it? Do you think I should just ban the opinions of those I, or others, disagree with?
73 Reds Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Parsad said: Because you numbnuts' will spread it like wildfire to other threads! It's containment of your shit! So why don't you try to fix it first! Sanjeev, its an easy fix. Just eliminate any political speak unless it has a direct investment relationship to the subject of the discussion. I actually suggested this a while back. Edited February 4 by 73 Reds spelling
73 Reds Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, Parsad said: Also, the easiest way to "fix it" is to just get rid of the small minority that sits on the extreme right...do you think that really fixes it? Do you think I should just ban the opinions of those I, or others, disagree with? Sure, its always someone else's fault. That is the problem. Edited February 4 by 73 Reds spelling
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Sanjeev, its an easy fix. Just eliminate any political speak unless it has a direct investment relationship to the subject of the discussion. I actually suggested this a while back. I've tried this 3 or 4 times, and what ends up happening is I'm putting out fires on numerous threads instead of just one where the play fighting is allowed. It makes my life a whole lot easier with the children! The right can't contain themselves and the left whine and bitch that the right can't contain themselves! So I get 10 or more messages a day to deal with. Cheers!
Mephistopheles Posted February 4 Posted February 4 This is hilarious. Why not just avoid the thread if one isn't interested in politics?
Parsad Posted February 4 Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Sure, its always someone else's fault. That is the problem. Actually that is the problem. The simplest thing is to just get rid of 10 people on here...about 5 on the left and 5 on the right. Ban their asses and IP's! But then their contributions to the board, which in many ways outweigh their rants/raves, is depriving others of their contributions. We cannot bury our head in the sand, even if we don't like what we see and hear at times. It's easy for people to say what is right and wrong, but only time and hindsight have any real knowledge of the truth! Cheers!
flesh Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 15 hours ago, cwericb said: You said... "But that's Trump's MO...get people scared enough to hate another group, and then run them out of town." ... and that's not raciest? Oh he is a raciest alright............. Just look at his remarks about Somalians and other Africans being 'garbage', except the whites from South Africa, of course. Trump has a long history of racism. That's not raciest? "U.S. President Donald Trump lashed out against Somali immigrants Tuesday, calling them "garbage" who "contribute nothing" to the country." How about "....Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit. "Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking disabled people – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted." Remember his rants about how Obama was not born in the US and he was actually African? How about his statement after a white supremacist rally, when he stated there were "very fine people on both sides" ? What about when Trump told four congresswomen of colour to "go back" to the "crime-infested places from which they came. Then there are the Haitians he accused of eating the dogs and cats in Springfield. "In 1973 the Department of Justice sued Trump and his company for refusing to rent to Black tenants. He settled the suit without admitting wrongdoing." Oh Donald Trump is a raciest alright, and has been for years. This is some serious bubble talk. Somali, Based on 2014-2023 data, approximately 81% of Somali households in Minnesota use at least one form of means-tested welfare, such as food stamps or Medicaid, compared to 21% of native households Center for Immigration Studies. While 27% receive cash assistance (vs. 6% native), reports also highlight significant economic contributions, with the community contributing $8 billion to the state economy. Key details regarding Somali welfare usage in Minnesota: Program Usage: Over 50% of Somali households receive food stamps, and nearly 75% utilize Medicaid. Cash Assistance: 27% of Somali households use cash welfare, including TANF and SSI. Longevity: Even after 10 years of residency, welfare consumption rates remain high and only marginally lower than newly arrived Somali households Mexicans "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists and some I assume are good people." I'll agree the "some" was too far. If he had said, MOST then I see no issue here. Very fine on both sides. Regarding renting or not renting to blacks I don't know the details, they are likely different then what MSM posits. Also, if some Haitians were eating cats and dogs it's simply true, although not a nice thing to say. I don't doubt that if we had Ukrainian/white immigrants sucking money out of the govt disproportionately or eating cats and dogs he'd be afraid to mention it lol. Also, Muslims are a religion, not a race. Many westerners are finding them incompatible with their societies. Many lefties have been harping on this for years. Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Bill Maher. Hope this helps! Edited February 4 by flesh
rogermunibond Posted February 4 Posted February 4 That liberal bastion the Cato Institute just released a deep dive on the question of immigration and fiscal deficits. https://www.cato.org/blog/cato-study-immigrants-reduced-deficits-145-trillion-1994
RichardGibbons Posted February 4 Posted February 4 The solution we have now works pretty well, I think. Political effluent largely only seems to overflow into other threads when politics can't easily be disentangled from the investment case. (e.g. the Europe thread).
73 Reds Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Mephistopheles said: This is hilarious. Why not just avoid the thread if one isn't interested in politics? Because the thread is anything but politics. If a few people get temporarily suspended without notice, they'd get the message.
flesh Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, rogermunibond said: That liberal bastion the Cato Institute just released a deep dive on the question of immigration and fiscal deficits. https://www.cato.org/blog/cato-study-immigrants-reduced-deficits-145-trillion-1994 I think the birth rates and the ballooning costs of socialistic aspects of western govt's is all you need to know to know the west needs immigrants. Increasing birth rates seems to be an intractable problem, I have my thoughts why, but for example, in the countries where there is more money thrown at the problem, longer maternity/paternity leave, child care subsidies, etc, there's lower birth rates than those without and the declining trend remains. Implicit here is that the immigrants are adding value to society, net tax payers, in the USA this is only the top half of the country on average, obviously there's plenty of exception here. Also, second and third generations, in the past have generally improved on this metric. Increasingly what's being discussed is should we or should we not identify which immigrants bring the most value and target them. I don't see anything wrong with optimizing your immigration if you have the ability to do so. For example, one problem is if you only bring in low wage workers it brings down the wages of low wage workers, hurting those hurting most to varying degrees, making them more likely to be dependent on govt and creating the vicious cycle that is generational welfare. Therefore, ideally you'd bring in proportionate amounts of people at all socioeconomic stages thereby simply duplicating what already exists in your country and growing gdp and fed total tax revenue in kind. Also the age of immigrants, if they are old, on average they'll be less productive, if young, they'll contribute for decades. Shouldn't we target them them? If done advantageously, USA could assimilate maybe a couple million a year and spread them around the country. I can see reason in arguments for helping some that are hurting most however that doesn't mean you can't mostly focus on being pragmatic. 90/10 More controversially, if a country has an average IQ of 80, shouldn't you be more careful about who you're letting in? There are many countries like this, look it up. I think it'd be easy to include something like this in immigration requirements. You can look up videos of interviews with people who have 60-85 Iq's, it's quite shocking. For context: The U.S. military does not use traditional IQ tests, but requires a minimum score on the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB), which functions similarly. Most branches require an Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT) percentile score of at least 31 for high school graduates, roughly equating to an IQ of 90–92 or above. Key Requirements and Information: The "83" Rule: Research indicates that, for the most part, the military does not accept individuals with an IQ below approximately 83, as this was found to be the minimum level required to train for tasks. ASVAB vs. IQ: The ASVAB is highly correlated with intelligence tests (approx. 0.8 correlation). Minimum Score (AFQT): A minimum score of 31 is generally required for the Army and Navy. Other branches may have higher standards (e.g., 36 for Air Force, 32 for Marine Corps). Exceptions: Applicants with a GED may require a minimum score of 50. In some cases, the Department of Defense can accept individuals with scores as low as the 10th percentile, which roughly translates to an IQ of 83 Contextual Factors: Recruit Quality: The military generally selects from the top two-thirds of the population, excluding the bottom third of test-takers. Officers: Officers must meet much higher standards and typically take the AFOQT instead of the ASVAB. Alternatives: If an applicant scores between 21 and 30, they may be eligible for the Future Soldier Preparatory Course to improve their score. Edited February 4 by flesh
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