Buckeye Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 18 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Come again? There are 83 million reasons why lawyers would be crawling all over themselves if there were any actual victims. And if legitimate, it was a birthday card, not a letter. Who cares? You tried making the point that if there were any victims, why have they not come forward? Certainly they would have come forward you say! To which I was merely pointing out that if there were a victim, and if she were to come forward, you and your MAGA friends would completely discredit her, just like you did with the WSJ article about the birthday card. And then we later find out that the WSJ article was true and maybe it’s your opinion on this topic that should discredited. Just sayin’. Edited September 9, 2025 by Buckeye
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 5 minutes ago, Buckeye said: You tried making the point that if there were any victims, why have they not come forward? Certainly they would have come forward you say! To which I was merely pointing out that if there were a victim, and if she were to come forward, you and your MAGA friends would completely discredit her, just like you did with the WSJ article about the birthday card. And then we later find out that the WSJ article was true and maybe it’s your opinion on this topic that should discredited. Just sayin’. Me and my MAGA friends? You lost me.
whiskybravo Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 17 minutes ago, dwy000 said: That would have been true under Garland as well. The determination to release is at the discretion of the AG (who is Trumps puppet). Trump campaigned on the promise to release the files and now is doing everything in his power to prevent it. Wonder why.... Perhaps they could release stuff related to Trump without sharing everything about other people involved. But it’s gotta be tricky. They would have to make sure they don’t accidentally reveal stuff that could hurt someone else or mess up other cases. It’s not just about what’s in the files, but also about being fair and following legal rules.
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 3 minutes ago, whiskybravo said: Perhaps they could release stuff related to Trump without sharing everything about other people involved. But it’s gotta be tricky. They would have to make sure they don’t accidentally reveal stuff that could hurt someone else or mess up other cases. It’s not just about what’s in the files, but also about being fair and following legal rules. Being fair and following legal rules is not Trumps strong suit. If he wanted to release the files they could be released tomorrow. Why does Johnson keep blocking votes to release the info?
Marco Van Basten Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 @Luke and many others, you are missing the elephant in the room. People don't vote for Trump the man, they vote against the ideas and solutions that are offered by Democrats! According to the article in the NY Post today, 80% of high school seniors cannot meet proficiency standards in reading/writing, and 81% cannot meet them in math. I don't give a damn if Trump slept with 500 women, our society is collapsing, and all Democrats offer is more spending, more illegal immigration, more rules, regulations, discrimination, war on biology and family, and more solutions that have failed time and again. Until Democrats stop offering failed solutions and pretending that if I feel that I am a woman, then I am a woman, they will continue to be in political wilderness, no matter how flawed the Republican candidate is.
Buckeye Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 38 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Me and my MAGA friends? You lost me. Oh geez….something about leading a horse to water. Do you now understand one reason why if there is a victim, why she may not necessarily come forward?
changegonnacome Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 4 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Hmm... after 20+ years and a first presidential term, wouldn't you think that if he was a pedophile a victim might have come forward? Oh wait, that would make too much sense. +1 your 100% correct….its TDS to think Donald might be peodo…back to 1st principals…..dude has had 10yrs plus of every person he ever crossed coming out against him plus 10yrs plus of vigorous opposition research. He’s not a secret peado.….but he is liar….a congenital one.
cubsfan Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 21 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: @Luke and many others, you are missing the elephant in the room. People don't vote for Trump the man, they vote against the ideas and solutions that are offered by Democrats! According to the article in the NY Post today, 80% of high school seniors cannot meet proficiency standards in reading/writing, and 81% cannot meet them in math. I don't give a damn if Trump slept with 500 women, our society is collapsing, and all Democrats offer is more spending, more illegal immigration, more rules, regulations, discrimination, war on biology and family, and more solutions that have failed time and again. Until Democrats stop offering failed solutions and pretending that if I feel that I am a woman, then I am a woman, they will continue to be in political wilderness, no matter how flawed the Republican candidate is. +1 - yup - no doubt. The cratering of the Democratic Party is due to their failures. No longer the party of the working class.
cubsfan Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 7 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: +1 your 100% correct….its TDS to think Donald might be peodo…back to 1st principals…..dude has had 10yrs plus of every person he ever crossed coming out against him plus 10yrs plus of vigorous opposition research. He’s not a secret peado.….but he is liar….a congenital one. Maybe - but what do you do when Biden was a pathological liar and Harris was a total empty suit? You're forced to pick your best candidate - Donald Trump
Gregmal Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 33 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: +1 your 100% correct….its TDS to think Donald might be peodo…back to 1st principals…..dude has had 10yrs plus of every person he ever crossed coming out against him plus 10yrs plus of vigorous opposition research. He’s not a secret peado.….but he is liar….a congenital one. Well, much to our amusement, that aint stopping some of em
changegonnacome Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 18 minutes ago, cubsfan said: best candidate Correction - “best worst candidate” …..and we’ll find that out for sure in 3.25yrs time who that was….what I do know is this Presidency is going to have binary outcome….his radicalism will prove inspired or totally and utterly idiotic….in the latter scenario an empty suit like Harris with her technocratic but fundamentally competent Harvard and Yale alum puppet masters preaching orthodoxy would have turned out to be an inspired choice. The status quo might have ‘sucked’ to some…but not beyond the realms of possibility that people will look back fondly at 2021-2024 period and think jeez that wasn’t so terrible why did we vote for such an aggressive right hand turn!
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buckeye said: Oh geez….something about leading a horse to water. Do you now understand one reason why if there is a victim, why she may not necessarily come forward? Uh, no. What is it about Jean Carroll, $83 million and a lot of greedy, hungry lawyers that you don't understand? Hell, someone can probably make up a story and have no trouble finding a lawyer to take her case. Edited September 9, 2025 by 73 Reds missed line
Red Lion Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 1 hour ago, Marco Van Basten said: @Luke and many others, you are missing the elephant in the room. People don't vote for Trump the man, they vote against the ideas and solutions that are offered by Democrats! According to the article in the NY Post today, 80% of high school seniors cannot meet proficiency standards in reading/writing, and 81% cannot meet them in math. I don't give a damn if Trump slept with 500 women, our society is collapsing, and all Democrats offer is more spending, more illegal immigration, more rules, regulations, discrimination, war on biology and family, and more solutions that have failed time and again. Until Democrats stop offering failed solutions and pretending that if I feel that I am a woman, then I am a woman, they will continue to be in political wilderness, no matter how flawed the Republican candidate is. +1
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 20 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Uh, no. What is it about Jean Carroll, $83 million and a lot of greedy, hungry lawyers that you don't understand? Hell, someone can probably make up a story and have no trouble finding a lawyer to take her case. He was found guilty by a jury. The verdict has been upheld in every single appeal. But instead of just going saying "yup hes a scumbag" youre convinced he has been railroaded. You're in a cult.
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 Just now, dwy000 said: He was found guilty by a jury. The verdict has been upheld in every single appeal. But instead of just going saying "yup hes a scumbag" youre convinced he has been railroaded. You're in a cult. LOL, 5 minutes to Wapner.
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 Just now, 73 Reds said: LOL, 5 minutes to Wapner. So youre slow on top of everything? Are you a very good driver? Cult.
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 1 minute ago, dwy000 said: So youre slow on top of everything? Are you a very good driver? Cult. Yep. K-Mart sucks.
Red Lion Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 5 minutes ago, dwy000 said: He was found guilty by a jury. The verdict has been upheld in every single appeal. But instead of just going saying "yup hes a scumbag" youre convinced he has been railroaded. You're in a cult. Not to quibble but liable, not guilty. There’s a huge difference as one requires a unanimous verdict with proof beyond a reasonable doubt and the other requires a preponderance of evidence and does not require a unanimous verdict.
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 Just now, Red Lion said: Not to quibble but liable, not guilty. There’s a huge difference as one requires a unanimous verdict with proof beyond a reasonable doubt and the other requires a preponderance of evidence and does not require a unanimous verdict. Don't confuse him. He's on a roll.
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 11 minutes ago, Red Lion said: Not to quibble but liable, not guilty. There’s a huge difference as one requires a unanimous verdict with proof beyond a reasonable doubt and the other requires a preponderance of evidence and does not require a unanimous verdict. Fair enough. Found liable by a jury of 9 people. Upheld under numerous appeals. Not railroaded. Not chased by an ambitious prosecutor. Liable by a jury of his peers.
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 14 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Don't confuse him. He's on a roll. When you see Hare Krishnas at the airport do you give them a fist bump?
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 Just now, dwy000 said: When you see Hare Krishnas at the airport do you give them a fist bump? They used to march in my neighborhood. You bring back fond memories of my days picking juries way back when. One or two questions and then an easy strike for cause. Impartiality is hard to fake.
Red Lion Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 1 minute ago, dwy000 said: Fair enough. Found liable by a jury of 9 people. Upheld under numerous appeals. Not railroaded. Not chased by an ambitious prosecutor. Liable by a jury of his peers. I agree it’s been upheld on numerous appeals so far and will see if that continues. I’d also think there’s a very ambitious prosecutor, since they stand to make ~$30 million in fees if the award stands. There’s a reason that lawyers try to shop venue. I’m not discounting your point though, Trump should have had good enough lawyers to challenge any jury misconduct. I never found the allegations very persuasive here, not because I doubt trump is/was a creep, but because sexual assault at a department store seems far fetched especially for a billionaire that has had no problem getting laid as soon as the lawyers sign off on the NDA. I think it was pretty much a he says she says situation as well, which are always more dubious in my mind. Just to be crystal clear, I think Donald trump is an unsavory character, and I personally think he was the lesser of two evils for policy reasons. I wish there was an alternative, other than the progressive left. I also don’t think he’s a rapist or a pedo. More like a John with lawyers to cover his ass. I’m not a huge fan of Kamala Harris the person, but if it weren’t for policy concerns I’d take her hands down over Donald trump. On the other hand, I probably wouldn’t care about politics at all if it weren’t for policy concerns.
Parsad Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 9 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Yeah, some "letter". They just can't seem to understand that it is the policies that Trump stands for and not the person that most people voted for and support. Bringing up what looks like an R- rated birthday card with boys' locker room banter from ??? years ago shows how deranged their mindset has become. 73Reds, let me ask you something...as well as for Cubs, et al. Would you let Trump molest your wife or daughter, as long as he pushes through with his policies and mandate? I think we all know the answer to this question, unless your answer differs from mine...in that case, God help us! Cheers!
cwericb Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 29 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I would agree with you - if you were not so factually wrong. - Illegal immigrants are NOT citizens - they are law breakers. - ICE agents - attacks on ICE agents are up 1000% because of DOXXING. Protecting your family from lunatics is not a crime. - The first wave of deportees have been CRIMINALS and those with standing orders of removal. -A country has the RIGHT and the OBLIGATION to protect their CITIZENS from law breakers. Give it another shot @cwericb - you are way too smart for this. would agree with you - if you were not so factually wrong. - Illegal immigrants are NOT citizens - they are law breakers. Correction, I meant "residents" Ever break a law Cubs? - ICE agents - attacks on ICE agents are up 1000% because of DOXXING. Protecting your family from lunatics is not a crime. - The first wave of deportees have been CRIMINALS and those with standing orders of removal. -A country has the RIGHT and the OBLIGATION to protect their CITIZENS from law breakers. Ever break a law Cubs? Give it another shot @cwericb - you are way too smart for this. I think you kinda missed the point Cubs.
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