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[Parsad]

8 hours ago, Sweet said:

But can you trust the USA with Trump?  He made deals in his first term he is now trashing.

 

+1!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

3 hours ago, Gregmal said:

We’ve literally had folks posting what they think is concrete evidence that Trump is lying and has no plan with the tariffs. When you change the variables around it’s kind of obvious how stupid the argument is and how the “facts” aren’t really facts at all.

 

Vlad Jr asked the Blue Jays for $600m. He ended up signing for $500m. Ah ha! He lied! He’s a POS! He had no plan and caved! Yes!

 

 

LMFAO whereas a normal non deranged thought process would be…it’s called a negotiation. No one goes in guns blazing with their final offer on day 1. Sure you could call it lying, or caving, but that says more about your understandings of how things work than anything. 
 

To the above point, responding to such nonsense, whether with 5 paragraphs and sources and quotes and podcasts, or simply saying “that’s retarded” is one in the same to such a bogus tirade; in fact, simply calling it retarded would be more efficient from a time perspective. Why should someone else’s issue become my burden?

 

Vlad Jr's request didn't stop the Blue Jays from selling season tickets next year...they still priced them where they wanted.  Most U.S. businesses are pulling guidance since they don't know what revenues, capex, profits or taxes will look like during the year.

 

The Blue Jays didn't drive up the manufacturing price of their own Blue Jay's merchandise.  

 

The Blue Jays didn't go after and fire management, admin staff, janitorial, concession staff, etc.

 

The Blue Jays didn't tell the National Baseball Association that if they want to play games in Toronto, they are going to have to sell Blue Jays merchandise at all of the stadiums across the U.S.

 

The Blue Jays didn't send Vlad Jr. to an El Salvador prison.

 

The Blue Jays didn't tell Vlad Jr. to avoid Covid and measle vaccines.

 

The Blue Jays don't blame all of their problems on the Dodgers or Yankees.

 

Big fucking differences!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

3 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Typical Trump, start out crazy and over the top, and walk it way back and settle for small victories that can be touted as big ones. 

 

So these small victories accumulated over 50 years might "Make America Great Again"?  Is that the plan Greg, really?  Cheers!

[Parsad]

2 hours ago, Gregmal said:

That’s the plan…doesn’t mean I see its benefits either outside of strong arming some countries whom need us; so I share your confusion. End result is probably negligibly lower multiples for premium US stocks. Otherwise, think it’s just an opportunity to trade and short vol. 

 

See the benefit is one doesn’t have to care either way and certainly not be emotionally invested. Just take what the market gives you as always. Trump is the gift that keep on giving on that front. 

 

Ok, so you aren't a MAGA fanatic after all.  You just voted for him as the best of a bad lot.  Alright, so you don't really care about policy...just opportunity...that's perfectly acceptable.  Cheers!

[73 Reds]

8 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Vlad Jr's request didn't stop the Blue Jays from selling season tickets next year...they still priced them where they wanted.  Most U.S. businesses are pulling guidance since they don't know what revenues, capex, profits or taxes will look like during the year.

 

The Blue Jays didn't drive up the manufacturing price of their own Blue Jay's merchandise.  

 

The Blue Jays didn't go after and fire management, admin staff, janitorial, concession staff, etc.

 

The Blue Jays didn't tell the National Baseball Association that if they want to play games in Toronto, they are going to have to sell Blue Jays merchandise at all of the stadiums across the U.S.

 

The Blue Jays didn't send Vlad Jr. to an El Salvador prison.

 

The Blue Jays didn't tell Vlad Jr. to avoid Covid and measle vaccines.

 

The Blue Jays don't blame all of their problems on the Dodgers or Yankees.

 

Big fucking differences!  Cheers!

At last check, the Blue Jays are not a terribly competitive baseball team.  Meaning the team's management is not terribly effective.  Perhaps they could learn a thing or two from Trump.

[Gregmal]

13 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

At last check, the Blue Jays are not a terribly competitive baseball team.  Meaning the team's management is not terribly effective.  Perhaps they could learn a thing or two from Trump.

Ironically the Blue Jays problem is that no one wants to play in Toronto because of the taxes….it happens every year.

 

Shit Steven Stamkos grew up dreaming of being a Leaf, then when it came time to go he decided he liked Florida better, largely because of the tax situation on a long term deal. 

[73 Reds]

22 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Ironically the Blue Jays problem is that no one wants to play in Toronto because of the taxes….it happens every year.

 

Shit Steven Stamkos grew up dreaming of being a Leaf, then when it came time to go he decided he liked Florida better, largely because of the tax situation on a long term deal. 

Yeah, but that's not likely to change.  In baseball, teams are not judged by how much money they make.  They are judged by winning.  Trump's only been winning all his life - often against long odds.  Toronto paying Vlad Jr. $1/2 billion not to win makes little sense, particularly when you consider that the Blue Jays are usually looking up at the Rays - the team's entire annual payroll is about twice what Vlad, Jr. makes.

[thepupil]

39 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Trump's only been winning all his life - often against long odds. 

 

it is statements like this that remind me no one will ever change their minds on these threads. 

 

 

[73 Reds]

Just now, thepupil said:

 

it is statements like this that remind me no one will ever change their minds on these threads. 

 

 

But changing one's mind requires a reason.  There is no reason evident today for this poster.

[thepupil]

my point is, I assume we're looking at mostly the same "facts" (his business record/how that was built) and come to a vastly different conclusion.

 

but the "facts" themselves are quite murky an to be disputed by either side. 

 

I don't think if we had "full information" a systematic factual record of all his dealings from birth to present, we'd agree on the interpretation. 

 

so to a degree it's all kind of pointless..but we knew that

 

 

[73 Reds]

5 minutes ago, thepupil said:

my point is, I assume we're looking at mostly the same "facts" (his business record/how that was built) and come to a vastly different conclusion.

 

but the "facts" themselves are quite murky an to be disputed by either side. 

 

I don't think if we had "full information" a systematic factual record of all his dealings from birth to present, we'd agree on the interpretation. 

 

so to a degree it's all kind of pointless..but we knew that

 

 

I think the methodology is what's mostly in question.  

[Gregmal]

9 minutes ago, thepupil said:

my point is, I assume we're looking at mostly the same "facts" (his business record/how that was built) and come to a vastly different conclusion.

 

but the "facts" themselves are quite murky an to be disputed by either side. 

 

I don't think if we had "full information" a systematic factual record of all his dealings from birth to present, we'd agree on the interpretation. 

 

so to a degree it's all kind of pointless..but we knew that

 

 

Which was pretty much my response to @John Hjorth. People may think they're being factual, but even there, they're often led to the conclusion they want to find. Soooo, yea.....if you click on this topic, be OK with contributing to the landfill. 

[james22]

I remember when Obama's qualification for Presidency was running a winning Presidential campaign.

 

LOL

 

[changegonnacome]

Beautiful thing about GDP growth, inflation, fiscal deficit, debt to GDP, unemployment numbers is that they remain factual - I'll judge this President over the medium term.......quarter here, quarter there doesn't matter.

 

The current trajectory seems clear but we wont pre-judge it as I expect a U-turn - 

 

- GDP growth is contracting

- inflation is going up

- while unemployment is most certainly likely to go up

- the annual fiscal deficit (as best I can tell) for 2025 and 2026 is going to remain at the same crazy levels Biden got us too

- debt to GDP (because of falling GDP growth) is actually going to accelerate now

 

The US economy is on a kind of a knife edge - it doesnt take much economic slippage for the fiscal to start printing 10% deficits here....very normal for the budget deficit to grow 300bps as the automatic stabilisers kick-in and tax revenues contract.

 

My best guess right now (but knowing the old man can change on dime) is that Trump is currently accelerating the country towards a fiscal crisis not away from one.

[Blake Hampton]

I'm actually happy that Trump won this election.

Now, when shit eventually falls apart, it'll be his ass getting cooked instead of Harris. Who knows what kind of chaos we'd be facing if things had gone the other way. If I’m forced to put my faith in one radicalized government over another, I’d still choose the Democrats.

 

After the Great Depression, it took one of the greatest presidents in our nation's history and two full decades before Republicans were able to retake control of government. I imagine that they already lost the upcoming midterms, but there's still plenty of damage to be done.

 

"I find it so interesting because the candidates and the parties are so interested in winning this election, but if you look at it, certainly from a fiscal standpoint, you're winning the booby prize."

- Paul Tudor Jones, Oct. 2024

 

Edited April 30, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[Blake Hampton]

Kamala would've been facing the exact same problems as Trump is dealing with now. My concern is that Trump may have made those problems even worse.

 

Maybe that's why so many members of the current administration seem so economically incompetent. If they'd truly understood the scale of what was happening, they would've never taken the job in the first place.

[Luke]

When stock market is up: Trump Bull Market

 

When stock market is down: Joe Biden Bear Market

 

xD

[changegonnacome]

24 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

If I’m forced to put my faith in one radicalized government over another, I’d still choose the Democrats.

 

I kind of agree but only because the democrats still have a populated enough centrist element to them - the Republican party has been hollowed out of centrists over the course of the Trumpification of the GOP which is coming up on a decade now........and so Congress provides very little to any checks on the President (as the constituent envisioned)......Kamala might not have been a rocket scientist.....but if she pulled some of the dumb stuff Trump is now the House/Senate Democrats would have literally shut her down in her microseconds.....the compliancy of the House and Senate Republicans is quite scary as Captain Chaos does one dumb thing after another during this trade debacle.

[changegonnacome]

8 minutes ago, Luke said:

When stock market is up: Trump Bull Market

 

When stock market is down: Joe Biden Bear Market

 

xD

 

[Blake Hampton]

2 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

I kind of agree but only because the democrats still have a populated enough centrist element to them - the Republican party has been hollowed out of centrists over the course of the Trumpification of the GOP which is coming up on a decade now........and so Congress provides very little to any checks on the President (as the constituent envisioned)......Kamala might not have been a rocket scientist.....but if she pulled some of the dumb stuff Trump is now the House/Senate Democrats would have literally shut her down in her microseconds.....the compliancy of the House and Senate Republicans is quite scary as Captain Chaos does one dumb thing after another during this trade debacle.

 

It's sort of sad because I like some of the old GOP guys. The problem to me is that they never actually stand up for anything they believe in. They'll write a nice OP-ED or deliver a good speech on the House floor, but when it comes voting time, they're useless.

[cubsfan]

Might want to focus on today's open cabinet meeting reviewing upcoming plans.

 

The transparency of this government is such a breath of fresh air, compared to a party that hides both their President & Presidential candidate from Americans. With Biden, it was nice to see a picture of him every few months, between his naps, to know he was still alive. With Kamala, never held open press conference, so we could actually understand what she stood for...

 

Trump & his cabinet is an open book - make promises, keep promises - keeping citizens informed through the good and the bad.

[changegonnacome]

2 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

The transparency of this government

 

Don't confuse transparency with competency.

[cubsfan]

Just now, changegonnacome said:

 

Don't confuse transparency with competency.

 

Never!

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, Blake Hampton said:

I'm actually happy that Trump won this election.

Now, when shit eventually falls apart, it'll be his ass getting cooked instead of Harris. Who knows what kind of chaos we'd be facing if things had gone the other way. If I’m forced to put my faith in one radicalized government over another, I’d still choose the Democrats.

 

After the Great Depression, it took one of the greatest presidents in our nation's history and two full decades before Republicans were able to retake control of government. I imagine that they already lost the upcoming midterms, but there's still plenty of damage to be done.

 

"I find it so interesting because the candidates and the parties are so interested in winning this election, but if you look at it, certainly from a fiscal standpoint, you're winning the booby prize."

- Paul Tudor Jones, Oct. 2024

 

Blake [ @Blake Hampton ],

 

Here is to POTUS just becomes a break screen / break signal in history.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Here is the Danish break screen and signal back in the '70s when Danish TV was a state monopoly :

 

 

 

Later, it became a bit more advanced, with aquarium fish :

 

 

 

[John Hjorth]

7 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Which was pretty much my response to @John Hjorth. People may think they're being factual, but even there, they're often led to the conclusion they want to find. Soooo, yea.....if you click on this topic, be OK with contributing to the landfill. 

 

Greg [ @Gregmal ],

 

I'm not going to pick up the glove, and continue elaborate this particular discussion here.

 

Please call me out, if you think I'm posting biased sources in this topic going forward.