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[Blake Hampton]

I don't know anything about anything with this, but does it concern anyone what's currently happening between India and Pakistan? They're do both have nuclear weapons.

[james22]

 

[Sweet]

34 minutes ago, james22 said:

 

Not true though.

 

US and Russia aren’t on the brink.

 

And nobody is saying India and Pakistan need to just get at it.

[Hektor]

Based on news reports, expectations seems to be that the Government of India must strike, since they did so after a similar incident in 2019.

 

The government seems to be conducting diplomatic outreach for building sufficient support internationally.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir.html

India Seems to Be Building Its Case for Striking Pakistan

 

Since the horrific terrorist attack in Kashmir last week, the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, has spoken on the phone with more than a dozen world leaders. Diplomats from 100 missions in India’s capital have filed into the foreign ministry for briefings, officials said.

 

But the effort is largely not about rallying help to de-escalate India’s dangerous face-off with Pakistan, which it accuses of having “linkages” to the attack. Instead, according to four diplomatic officials aware of the discussions, New Delhi appears to be building a case for military action against its neighbor and archenemy.

 

 

However, India does not seem to have sufficient evidence to pin the incident on Pakistan. Further, the results from the previous encounter seems to weigh on the government, according to this report. 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/world/asia/india-pakistan-military-kashmir-attack.html

As Tensions Rise With Pakistan, a Moment of Truth for India’s Military

The risk of exposing a military still being modernized may constrain Prime Minister Narendra Modi as he weighs retaliation for a terrorist attack.

 

 

Nevertheless, some saber rattling in the Arabian Sea. Could be for domestic consumption too.

 

[Sweet]

 

[Spekulatius]

5 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

I don't know anything about anything with this, but does it concern anyone what's currently happening between India and Pakistan? They're do both have nuclear weapons.

They have been in a low level war for decades. Sometime a bit more, sometimes a bit less. What we are seeing now is a bit more.

[Spekulatius]

1 minute ago, Sweet said:

 

I wonder if Trumps Truth social and Trump coin counts? He sure is creating his own catalysts. 

[John Hjorth]

There are now objectively observable cases of CofB&F members dragging certain kinds of totally undocumented and unsubstanciated political stuff and information from X in here on CofB&F in this topic, where such *BS*, - not even in this topic - just doesen't belong.

 

Now go grow up, or go grow a new brain, if you feel hit by this.

 

What is it really, that you obvoiusly don't understand? -Or are you just brain lame, not furnished with any real arguments for your stance presented here?

 

I'm going to report such cases from here onwards, on sight.

[james22]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

. . . objectively . . .

 

LOL

[Gregmal]

Yea I mean I think the way Sanjeev has it now is fine. A designated politics thread is fair warning. Nobody posting in this thread is really attempting to be objective and as long as it stays here, that’s fine. The worst offenders actually being the ones whom don’t think their shit stinks. 

[Parsad]

Red wave surging in Canada...looks like the Liberals win this one handily. 

 

A few months ago, Pierre Poilievre was essentially Prime Minister Elect...then Poilievre experienced an outlier event like no other...Trump stupidity!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

18 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Red wave surging in Canada...looks like the Liberals win this one handily. 

 

A few months ago, Pierre Poilievre was essentially Prime Minister Elect...then Poilievre experienced an outlier event like no other...Trump stupidity!  Cheers!

 

Although it looks like a minority Liberal government.  Parties are going to have to work together.  Cheers!

[Sweet]

How can they call this election when the seat projection is like 2 seats different, and the popular vote continues to narrow?

[Sweet]

If the liberals win, largely because of their votes in big cities, how is that a middle finger to Trump?

 

The BBC, not exactly right wing, were already running articles before the election that some Alberta residents feel they have more in common with their Southernly neighbours than the liberals running Canada:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkg8r85n1eo.amp

 

Easy targets for Trump if he is serious about getting Canada, maybe he will settle for just some of Canada instead.

 

In any case, in nearly all Western countries it’s the liberals in cities and the conservatives everywhere else.

 

 

[dwy000]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

Red wave surging in Canada...looks like the Liberals win this one handily. 

 

A few months ago, Pierre Poilievre was essentially Prime Minister Elect...then Poilievre experienced an outlier event like no other...Trump stupidity!  Cheers!

I find it really interesting.  After Trump making more noise about Canada than Greenland or tariffs for a month, Carney has a 20 minute call with him.  From that minute on, Trump caved completely. Not a word about 51st state or Governor or anything. Canada gets exempted from all the tariffs.  Carney looks like the Trump-whisperer and takes a massive lead.

 

Then 5 days before the election, as if to ensure people vote for Carney, Trump and Rubio both make 51st state comments. Might as well just buy a "vote Carney" ad.

 

Either Carney has something on Trump close to what Putin does or he promised something if.he won. A 20 minute call doesn't have that level of impact without some serious underpinnings. 

[Sweet]

3 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

I find it really interesting.  After Trump making more noise about Canada than Greenland or tariffs for a month, Carney has a 20 minute call with him.  From that minute on, Trump caved completely. Not a word about 51st state or Governor or anything. Canada gets exempted from all the tariffs.  Carney looks like the Trump-whisperer and takes a massive lead.

 

Then 5 days before the election, as if to ensure people vote for Carney, Trump and Rubio both make 51st state comments. Might as well just buy a "vote Carney" ad.

 

Either Carney has something on Trump close to what Putin does or he promised something if.he won. A 20 minute call doesn't have that level of impact without some serious underpinnings. 

 

Or maybe it suits Trump perfectly well that it’s another Liberal government.  Could he divide and conquer as easily if the Conservatives won?

[dwy000]

11 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

Or maybe it suits Trump perfectly well that it’s another Liberal government.  Could he divide and conquer as easily if the Conservatives won?

Yes.  

[Parsad]

10 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

Or maybe it suits Trump perfectly well that it’s another Liberal government.  Could he divide and conquer as easily if the Conservatives won?

 

This statement makes little sense.  Almost all of the major cities, excluding Calgary, were Liberal strongholds.  How would that make any difference to Trump?  Cheers!

[Parsad]

36 minutes ago, Sweet said:

If the liberals win, largely because of their votes in big cities, how is that a middle finger to Trump?

 

The BBC, not exactly right wing, were already running articles before the election that some Alberta residents feel they have more in common with their Southernly neighbours than the liberals running Canada:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkg8r85n1eo.amp

 

Easy targets for Trump if he is serious about getting Canada, maybe he will settle for just some of Canada instead.

 

In any case, in nearly all Western countries it’s the liberals in cities and the conservatives everywhere else.

 

 

 

Only 3 in 10 Albertans want any part of the U.S.  That's far less than Quebecers wanting independence during their heydays during the 80's and 90's when it almost happened.  So it is unlikely that referendum would ever pass.  Cheers!

 

https://angusreid.org/smith-shapiro-sovereignty/

[Sweet]

7 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

This statement makes little sense.  Almost all of the major cities, excluding Calgary, were Liberal strongholds.  How would that make any difference to Trump?  Cheers!

 

See article below.
 

3 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Only 3 in 10 Albertans want any part of the U.S.  That's far less than Quebecers wanting independence during their heydays during the 80's and 90's when it almost happened.  So it is unlikely that referendum would ever pass.  Cheers!

 

https://angusreid.org/smith-shapiro-sovereignty/

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/albertans-say-theyre-serious-about-separation-after-liberal-win
 

No feel for whether they would be successful, but 3 in 10 is a lot as a starting point.

 

 

[Parsad]

5 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

See article below.
 

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/albertans-say-theyre-serious-about-separation-after-liberal-win
 

No feel for whether they would be successful, but 3 in 10 is a lot as a starting point.

 

 

 

Albertans would consider independence, but they would never vote to be part of the U.S.  It would just be going from the oven to the deep fryer.  

 

You are going to see a red wave through the U.S. when the primaries come in 2026.  Especially if the Democrats can field more centrist candidates.  

 

Cheers!

[Sweet]

7 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Albertans would consider independence, but they would never vote to be part of the U.S.  It would just be going from the oven to the deep fryer.  

 

You are going to see a red wave through the U.S. when the primaries come in 2026.  Especially if the Democrats can field more centrist candidates.  

 

Cheers!

 

I wouldn’t be so sure about that, I think you are underestimating how pissed off many conservatives are.  The liberal policies in western countries have been hugely divisive.

 

Also, I think you mean blue wave right lol?

[Parsad]

3 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

I wouldn’t be so sure about that, I think you are underestimating how pissed off many conservatives are.  The liberal policies in western countries have been hugely divisive.

 

Also, I think you mean blue wave right lol?

 

Yup...in Canada it's a red wave.  

 

Conservatives are pissed off, but if they get independence, they want it from everyone...not just Canada.  

 

Albertans are pissed off about oil and equalization payments.  Oil I can understand...but in terms of equalization payments, they haven't paid the most of any province like they believe they have.  Ontario has led the way, then Alberta and BC.  So yes there probably should be some reform on equalization payments, but Alberta isn't the only one screwed over.  Cheers!

 

 

 

[jfan]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Although it looks like a minority Liberal government.  Parties are going to have to work together.  Cheers!

Despite the ndp being decimated, don't they again become the swing vote? 

[WayWardCloud]

On 4/27/2025 at 5:43 PM, changegonnacome said:

 

the tolerance for economic pain in the USA is basically zero.....its why the debt & the deficit is so bad....one can view it as the cumulative deferral of pain over time

 

I think this is spot on.

 

What might have been underappreciated here regarding what country holds what leverage during trade talks is that Chinese and European people are way less, if at all, invested in the stock market and that their retirement funds don't depend on it. I would bet that less than 5% of French people know what the sp500 is and maybe 5-10% big maximum know what the CAC40 is. They understand the damage that will happen long term to the actual economy if the tariffs hold but haven't felt any short term pain so it didn't translate into pressure on their executive branch to cave and make concessions, quite the contrary actually. Economic pain in the US is transmitted almost instantly via 401ks and public opinion can change much faster, regardless of political family, when it feels like your nest egg is vanishing.

Edited April 29, 2025 by WayWardCloud