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[DooDiligence]

1 hour ago, changegonnacome said:

 

If winning is shrinking the consumption capacity of your citizens while simultaneously making your existing domestic manufactoring export base less competitive in service of some theoretical tariff driven future manufactoring base that isnt here yet.......then yeah we are winning, we are winning all over the place.

 

We're still getting medbeds, right?

[adesigar]

2 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

 

Just a tiny anectode. My son was campaigning a few days ago for today’s election for an ethnically Chinese democrat candidate. They got threatened by a fellow who came after my son calling him a  “terrorist supporter “ and  yelling at both my son and the candidate  “ to go back to the shithole country where they came from”

 

Well the candidate might be looking Chinese but he is born in the USA (as far as I know) and so is my son. So where exactly are they supposed to go back to?

 

They called the police about the fellow but he disappeared before they came and we have no idea what happened to that not so nice fellow (probably nothing). I guess some people really feel emboldened nowadays.

 

I told my son to record these folks on his phone if anything like this happens again (if possible) and post it on TikTok or Instagram. I would guess that shaming working better than the police.

 

Our family heard the “go back to where you came from” within a couple weeks of the election results.

[adesigar]

11 minutes ago, Haryana said:

Democrats sweep the first major elections of Trump’s second term

(CNN) Is this a lie of the MSM?

If its not on faux news it’s a lie. If it’s on faux news it the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[Parsad]

2 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

 

Just a tiny anectode. My son was campaigning a few days ago for today’s election for an ethnically Chinese democrat candidate. They got threatened by a fellow who came after my son calling him a  “terrorist supporter “ and  yelling at both my son and the candidate  “ to go back to the shithole country where they came from”

 

Well the candidate might be looking Chinese but he is born in the USA (as far as I know) and so is my son. So where exactly are they supposed to go back to?

 

They called the police about the fellow but he disappeared before they came and we have no idea what happened to that not so nice fellow (probably nothing). I guess some people really feel emboldened nowadays.

 

I told my son to record these folks on his phone if anything like this happens again (if possible) and post it on TikTok or Instagram. I would guess that shaming working better than the police.

 

Sorry they both had to go through that...that's what is happening and spreading globally to some degree.  Threats, lies, falsehoods, lack of decorum, anger, spitefulness, apathy...it's become the norm.  While both parties share in the creation of it all, one side certainly perpetuates it and celebrates it!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

4 hours ago, wondering said:

Very disappointed with the budget. No major tax cuts to speak of. The opposition is weak - now was the Liberals time to do it. Maybe next year. Our country has so much potential 

 

Hmmm, not so bad.  Emissions cap is gone...they are cutting government jobs in a big way...increased defense spending...reducing complexity around the tax code...no huge cuts on social services...no increased capital gains tax...no increase to the marginal tax rates...targeted spending to expand trade and nation building projects...additional spending on transport infrastructure...increased depreciation deductibility for businesses.  It was a budget trying to play both sides and that's a tricky proposition...but probably the one that is needed right now.  Cheers!

[changegonnacome]

28 minutes ago, DooDiligence said:

We're still getting medbeds, right?

 

Not quite yet - though World Liberty Financial are issuing medbed coins that will trade on Binance.....holders of medbed coins will get first refusal on medbeds when they become available....in the meantime the largest 100 holders of medbed coins will be invited to Mar A Lago to a dinner hosted by CZ, Barron Trump with a surprise guest associated with the numbers 45 and 47.

[Sweet]

6 hours ago, Haryana said:

Democrats sweep the first major elections of Trump’s second term

(CNN) Is this a lie of the MSM?

 

NYC, New Jersey Governor, Virginia Governor?

 

 

[Sweet]

8 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

 

Just a tiny anectode. My son was campaigning a few days ago for today’s election for an ethnically Chinese democrat candidate. They got threatened by a fellow who came after my son calling him a  “terrorist supporter “ and  yelling at both my son and the candidate  “ to go back to the shithole country where they came from”

 

Well the candidate might be looking Chinese but he is born in the USA (as far as I know) and so is my son. So where exactly are they supposed to go back to?

 

They called the police about the fellow but he disappeared before they came and we have no idea what happened to that not so nice fellow (probably nothing). I guess some people really feel emboldened nowadays.

 

I told my son to record these folks on his phone if anything like this happens again (if possible) and post it on TikTok or Instagram. I would guess that shaming working better than the police.

 

Not nice to be happening to anyone, especially when it is your son.

 

[Spekulatius]

If people spent $700 instead of $500 on let say a washing machine due to tariffs or domestic business raising prices because they can (less competition from foreign countries enables them to do so) then that extra $200 the consumer does not have any more is not spent on other things.

 

I am not sure that missing $200 is deflationary but it certainly will reduce demand for other food and services  because the consumer can spent money only once. So is it a net benefit for the economy if the consume spent $200 more on a washing machine and $200 less on other things?

 

I will guess we will find out. One thing is sure  - the economy will adjust. Maybe the washing machine won’t stay $200 more expensive etc…

Edited November 5, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Gregmal]

Yea I was actually laughing about this last night with a friend. These people are all soooo fucked. Republicans still can’t pick a candidate, I mean Sliwa played tough guy refusing to drop out of NYC, only to concede 30 minutes into voting. And the Dems? LMFAO they’re feeling emboldened and are under the impression there’s a major political comeback happening because they won….NY, NJ, and VA……yea

 

Anyway, we’ll continue to pick off all the political refugees and higher end citizens here in JOE Country. They can keep the mold growing on the undercarriage. 

Edited November 5, 2025 by Gregmal

[dealraker]

6 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Sorry they both had to go through that...that's what is happening and spreading globally to some degree.  Threats, lies, falsehoods, lack of decorum, anger, spitefulness, apathy...it's become the norm.  While both parties share in the creation of it all, one side certainly perpetuates it and celebrates it!  Cheers!

Our daughter, who at 28 will be managing editor of Pharmacy Times as of January, and her husband were here in NC (they live in NJ) when a young man in a lifted pickup pulled out in front of them and in the resulting crash they of course lost use of their car.  Angela's mother has an extra very expensive auto (her husband recently died) so they of course got that vehicle to drive all around here in Lexington, NC and High Point, NC (where Angela's mom lives).

 

They have been stopped twice here in Davidson County on the roads leading out to our lake house from the small city,  both times by the Sheriff's deputies who refer to our daughter's husband as "boy" while using (what our daughter and husband refer to as) 'black talk' when checking the registrations and licenses.  No driving infraction, just getting stopped by deputies sitting in public parking areas watching the roads for what they determine as potentially illegal activity.  The second stop was a 2 hour ordeal of multiple investigations as to the car ownership.  I've driven these roads, as has Angela, for 55 years and not once has a Sheriff deputy found the need to stop us.  Same with our son.  (Note: I have no biological children but I did raise two relatives from elementary school age, both refer to me as "dad").  Upon asking not one of my extensive family or their children has ever been stopped by a deputy.

 

Our daughter is fair skinned to the point of opaque while her husband is from Kenya and he makes most Americans of all race combinations look white he's so dark skinned.  Even in NJ he enjoys telling us of the shock-and-awe he sees in his patients when they come to grips that their surgeon is a 5' 9" 125 lbs midnight black man with a  crisp British sounding accent.

 

We badly want them to move to NC so we can be a bigger part of our soon-to-come grandchildren's lives.  You can be sure as hell that won't be rural or small town NC, our community just doesn't grasp situations such as theirs.

 

I know here on this thread there are those who surely think of this 'protection' as logical law enforcement behavior, behavior that is our local's best interest.  I know precisely what it is, it is simply letting some people know that they are different and not necessarily welcome.

 

 

Edited November 5, 2025 by dealraker

[Spekulatius]

59 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

Not nice to be happening to anyone, especially when it is your son.

 

This is the first time he experienced clear cut racism. This didn’t happen here in NC either , he remains resident of MA (from where we moved ) as he continues to attend Umass. Not that this matters really.

[73 Reds]

40 minutes ago, dealraker said:

Our daughter, who at 28 will be managing editor of Pharmacy Times as of January, and her husband were here in NC (they live in NJ) when a young man in a lifted pickup pulled out in front of them and in the resulting crash they of course lost use of their car.  Angela's mother has an extra very expensive auto (her husband recently died) so they of course got that vehicle to drive all around here in Lexington, NC and High Point, NC (where Angela's mom lives).

 

They have been stopped twice here in Davidson County on the roads leading out to our lake house from the small city,  both times by the Sheriff's deputies who refer to our daughter's husband as "boy" while using (what our daughter and husband refer to as) 'black talk' when checking the registrations and licenses.  No driving infraction, just getting stopped by deputies sitting in public parking areas watching the roads for what they determine as potentially illegal activity.  The second stop was a 2 hour ordeal of multiple investigations as to the car ownership.  I've driven these roads, as has Angela, for 55 years and not once has a Sheriff deputy found the need to stop us.  Same with our son.  (Note: I have no biological children but I did raise two relatives from elementary school age, both refer to me as "dad").  Upon asking not one of my extensive family or their children has ever been stopped by a deputy.

 

Our daughter is fair skinned to the point of opaque while her husband is from Kenya and he makes most Americans of all race combinations look white he's so dark skinned.  Even in NJ he enjoys telling us of the shock-and-awe he sees in his patients when they come to grips that their surgeon is a 5' 9" 125 lbs midnight black man with a  crisp British sounding accent.

 

We badly want them to move to NC so we can be a bigger part of our soon-to-come grandchildren's lives.  You can be sure as hell that won't be rural or small town NC, our community just doesn't grasp situations such as theirs.

 

I know here on this thread there are those who surely think of this 'protection' as logical law enforcement behavior, behavior that is our local's best interest.  I know precisely what it is, it is simply letting some people know that they are different and not necessarily welcome.

 

 

Had that happened to me, as a presumably well-respected 55 year-resident I'd have a stern talk with the deputies and the officer in charge.  Just saying.

[John Hjorth]

I'm shocked, stunned, by the stories shared here by @Spekulatius and Charlie [ @dealraker ].

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

I'm shocked, stunned, by the stories shared here by @Spekulatius and Charlie [ @dealraker ].

Why?  Prejudice exists in all shapes and forms.  I've experienced it my whole life.  And just for the record, it didn't start with Trump even though that is a convenient excuse.  

Edited November 5, 2025 by 73 Reds
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[Gregmal]

Yea, I mean anyone ever go to Hawaii? This stuff is just a product of the lower end people in society. I myself, pretty bland individual, was once stopped and had my car impounded in Newark, 50 ft from the parking lot at an NJ Devils game, for a registration that expired a day prior, by a darker skinned female cop who looked at my license and pronounced my name "white boy". 
 

I admit, it was probably also Trumps fault given this was 2012 and back then he was a big time Democrat.

Edited November 5, 2025 by Gregmal

[villainx]

1 hour ago, dealraker said:

We badly want them to move to NC so we can be a bigger part of our soon-to-come grandchildren's lives.

 

This is the plot of Get Out!

 

Jokes aside - current reality vs belief that things will improve vs sometimes not remembering how things are different for others.

[Castanza]

Are the intelligent members of COBF really arguing that racism is something new? If you're in the majority group you likely experience less racism (fact). But that does not mean it doesn't exist for the other groups (fact). I reckon that racism will not go away in ~2040 when the new minority ethnic group in the US is Caucasian. If history tells us anything racism will persist and usually the majority group is the one primarily perpetuating. Political violence often follows changes in majority/minority ethnic group changes as seen globally in both modern and less developed nations. 

[Charlie]

49 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

51 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

I'm shocked, stunned, by the stories shared here by @Spekulatius and Charlie [ @dealraker ].

Why?  Prejudice exists in all shapes and forms.  I've experienced it my whole life.  And just for the record, it didn't start with Trump even though that is a convenient excuse.

This is true, but Trump brought bad behavior as one of the worst role models there is to a higher level.

There are a lot of (Trump behavior) imitation trolls out there.

[dealraker]

39 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Yea, I mean anyone ever go to Hawaii? This stuff is just a product of the lower end people in society. I myself, pretty bland individual, was once stopped and had my car impounded in Newark, 50 ft from the parking lot at an NJ Devils game, for a registration that expired a day prior, by a darker skinned female cop who looked at my license and pronounced my name "white boy". 
 

I admit, it was probably also Trumps fault given this was 2012 and back then he was a big time Democrat.

Greg let me bring you down to a slightly more accurate earthy existence.  Our "son" was out and about in our all-white all-Trump world here (I say that with humor but we are what's been termed as THE number one hot spot of Trump) just a few years ago (he's a full fledged architect now and doesn't drink at all and actually barely ever did) --- and he had to much to drink and was driving home.

 

He got stopped and apprehended by local deputies (not Highway Patrol) for his odd driving.  What happened?  They found out who he was, and yes he and I are from the "right" (that's not politics but economic) family and he's part of this extended family.  So one deputy drove him home here while the other deputy drove his car here.

 

No charges.  THAT's a privileged life would you say?  Tough realities for us types.

 

He was thoroughly embarrassed however, he's slightly on the autism spectrum and stuff such as this does send him spiraling in a very intense way.  But it is what it is.  

[73 Reds]

6 minutes ago, Charlie said:

This is true, but Trump brought bad behavior as one of the worst role models there is to a higher level.

There are a lot of Trump behavior) imitation trolls out there.  

No one condones bad behavior.  Trump is far from the first US President to exhibit bad behavior in spite of detractors who demonstrate short memories or no understanding of US history.

[Sweet]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

Yea, I mean anyone ever go to Hawaii? This stuff is just a product of the lower end people in society. I myself, pretty bland individual, was once stopped and had my car impounded in Newark, 50 ft from the parking lot at an NJ Devils game, for a registration that expired a day prior, by a darker skinned female cop who looked at my license and pronounced my name "white boy". 
 

I admit, it was probably also Trumps fault given this was 2012 and back then he was a big time Democrat.

It’s been OK to say and do things like to white people for a while though.  Part of the reason why there is an uptick in it across the board.

 

 

24 minutes ago, dealraker said:

Greg let me bring you down to a slightly more accurate earthy existence.  Our "son" was out and about in our all-white all-Trump world here (I say that with humor but we are what's been termed as THE number one hot spot of Trump) just a few years ago (he's a full fledged architect now and doesn't drink at all and actually barely ever did) --- and he had to much to drink and was driving home.

 

He got stopped and apprehended by local deputies (not Highway Patrol) for his odd driving.  What happened?  They found out who he was, and yes he and I are from the "right" (that's not politics but economic) family and he's part of this extended family.  So one deputy drove him home here while the other deputy drove his car here.

 

No charges.  THAT's a privileged life would you say?  Tough realities for us types.

 

He was thoroughly embarrassed however, he's slightly on the autism spectrum and stuff such as this does send him spiraling in a very intense way.  But it is what it is.  

Note you didn’t say this to Spek, Greg only.

 

This is the kind of stuff people are fed up with.

 

White guys just have to suck it up because they’re ‘systemically privileged’.

 

Is it any wonder we are seeing the ugly head of actual racism rise on the younger right?

 

Edited November 5, 2025 by Sweet

[Gregmal]

22 minutes ago, dealraker said:

Greg let me bring you down to a slightly more accurate earthy existence.  Our "son" was out and about in our all-white all-Trump world here (I say that with humor but we are what's been termed as THE number one hot spot of Trump) just a few years ago (he's a full fledged architect now and doesn't drink at all and actually barely ever did) --- and he had to much to drink and was driving home.

 

He got stopped and apprehended by local deputies (not Highway Patrol) for his odd driving.  What happened?  They found out who he was, and yes he and I are from the "right" (that's not politics but economic) family and he's part of this extended family.  So one deputy drove him home here while the other deputy drove his car here.

 

No charges.  THAT's a privileged life would you say?  Tough realities for us types.

 

He was thoroughly embarrassed however, he's slightly on the autism spectrum and stuff such as this does send him spiraling in a very intense way.  But it is what it is.  

I think and have largely come to the conclusion that there’s shitty people everywhere. Some in clothing we instantly recognize was some in clothing meant to make us feel safe. I have little control over what other people do; the only consistent answer I’ve found is to lean on or flex the advantages we have. These people exist. Period. They may be more emboldened in certain situations, but they always exist. 
 

Having grown up not having the wealth or family connection advantages, and having been exposed to experiences that only recently seem to be getting the public’s attention via documentaries and television shows, maybe I’m a little callous to the “lower end” of the adversity experiences, ie name calling or a racist cop impounds my car in shithole Newark….idk…only answer I’ve ever found is to work what you have and play to your strengths. Which is thankfully what I’ve been able to do for my kids and will continue to unapologetically do.

 

I loved NJ and still do. But metaphorically vomitted in my mouth a little going home for a week last month and seeing everyone emboldened enough to disgrace their front yards with political signs. Thankfully I haven’t seen a single one since returning to my little bubble. 
 

 

Edited November 5, 2025 by Gregmal

[DooDiligence]

Black voters also moved to Trump but remained overwhelmingly Democratic.
Trump nearly doubled his support among Black voters between 2020 and 2024: 8% voted for him in 2020 vs. 15% last year. Still, 83% of Black voters backed Harris.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/

 

 

 

[John Hjorth]

57 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Why?  Prejudice exists in all shapes and forms.  I've experienced it my whole life.  And just for the record, it didn't start with Trump even though that is a convenient excuse.  

 

@73 Reds,

 

I think things are actually material different here up in Northern Europe in pretty cosy, tiny Denmark compared to USA, but that may perhaps be a cognitive bias, because I've consistently removed such characters with such opinions and attitudes from my personal sphere. Never had time for such.

 

That said, I've been caught 'dearly' in racial prejudice some years ago myself, Christ, I'll never forget it, I was so embarrased about how dumb I was then, it's actually a funny story, and in the end I ended up getting a new friend! I'll share it later today in this topic.