whiskybravo Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 10 minutes ago, Gamecock-YT said: By sourcing a NY Post article, no less. If only Greg hadn't moved from New York we might have been able to ask him what political leaning that newspaper has..... Your reply is clearly dismissive and avoids the core issue I raised by trying to discredit my source rather than engaging with the content of my argument. It’s a classic ad hominem, attacking the messenger instead of the message. If you think the source is the only issue go ahead and ignore the NY Post. The facts of the case remain the same. A woman who fled a war was murdered on U.S. soil. The suspect had 13 prior arrests and was still free. It received barely any national coverage for weeks. You don’t need to like the source to recognize a systemic failure, or to care about a life needlessly lost. If this were the other way around politically, you and I both know the coverage and reaction would be very different.
whiskybravo Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sweet said: I’m not triggered, you’re just oblivious to the complete garbage your typing. Jordan Neely died after being retrained on the NY subway by a white guy. It was national news and there protests mainstream coverage of the trial. Maybe you should reflect on why one gets MSM coverage and protests and the other… nothing… and also reflect on how you can be so wrong. …”but it’s the right wingers”. Exactly. Daniel Penny acted to protect others on that train. Tragically it ended in death, but his intent was defense. This other case? A Ukrainian refugee was slaughtered by someone with zero regard for human life, a man with 13 prior arrests. Come on. There’s a clear moral difference here. It’s not hard to see why one gets outrage and the other silence. Edited September 8, 2025 by whiskybravo
Sweet Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 14 minutes ago, whiskybravo said: Exactly. Daniel Penny acted to protect others on that train. Tragically it ended in death, but his intent was defense. This other case? A Ukrainian refugee was slaughtered by someone with zero regard for human life, a man with 13 prior arrests. Come on. There’s a clear moral difference here. It’s not hard to see why one gets outrage and the other silence. And that’s the most wild thing about all of this. The white guy was restraining a nuisance passenger and the usual suspects won’t shut up about it. White refugee gets killed by a black guy for literally no reason and it’s ’nobody cares except the ringer wingers because she’s pretty.’ One of these should be national news and the other shouldn’t.
cubsfan Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Gamecock-YT said: because this is just a random murder and no one would care if the victim wasn't attractive and is just now getting picked up by the right wing blogs? I lived within walking distance of this station, could see it from my window, and took that train twice a day for years and I never felt unsafe once during that period. The pearl clutching going on now is reprehensible yet is par for the course. What's reprehensible is the murder of the young girl and the media burying the story. But we all understand that the murder of a "victim" group member by a white is the real story that lights the media's hair on fire.
cubsfan Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: A long time ago at a Country Club Donald Trump apparently boasted about owning the Libs and being capable of making them do anything. After some pushback, he stated "dont believe me? I can get them to do anything, you get three wishes"..... The first respondent said "fine, have them claim there are more than two genders after lecturing us about following the science". The second said "then, have them tell us Joe Biden is the sharpest president we've ever had"...and then third goes "after all that, make them defend violent crime".... The stuff of legends indeed.....continues. that's frickin' hilarious!
Andrew Moser Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 Don't know where to post this, but actually respect Bessent more because of this even though this should be pretty verboten among co-workers and not encouraged... https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/08/scott-bessent-bill-pulte-blowup-00549956?s=04 [Quote] “It’s either me or him,” Bessent said to Malik. “You tell me who’s getting the fuck out of here.” “Or,” he added, “we could go outside.” “To do what?” asked Pulte. “To talk?” “No,” Bessent replied. “I’m going to fucking beat your ass.” [/Quote]
Sweet Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Gregmal said: Theres definitely some secret Lib formula hidden in some liberal arts college library book or something containing the conversion tables for these things. Black life taken by white person = 1000 lives. Black life taken by black 1/10 of a life. White life taken by white = 1/2 life, white life taken by black 1/1000 of a life. All colors in between dont count or probably got a TBD next to em. Also dont forget that "all lives" need the "reasonably acceptable killing figure adjustment" of 55.....truly crazy stuff. This is pretty much how msm rank what stories about killings to run.
RichardGibbons Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 14 hours ago, Parsad said: I'm also very well connected to Simon Fraser University where half my family are students or Alumni, where a number of friends work, and I'm well-informed of what is happening there because of my contributions to the University Endowment. Again, no significant increase in racism or DEI activities that have deprived potential faculty or students. If it was that prevalent, there would be lawsuits and so far, there was just one lawsuit by an employee denied tenure he says because of his views on DEI...he lost the case in court. Ok, yeah, there's a bunch of racist stuff at SFU, and the fact that you believe lawsuits would be filed kind of indicates your lack of understanding. It's pretty clear to me at this point, it's you are likely just choosing not to see it. Which is fair enough--people typically don't care too much about racism when it isn't targeting the people they care about.
Parsad Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 6 hours ago, Gregmal said: Theres definitely some secret Lib formula hidden in some liberal arts college library book or something containing the conversion tables for these things. Black life taken by white person = 1000 lives. Black life taken by black 1/10 of a life. White life taken by white = 1/2 life, white life taken by black 1/1000 of a life. All colors in between dont count or probably got a TBD next to em. Also dont forget that "all lives" need the "reasonably acceptable killing figure adjustment" of 55.....truly crazy stuff. This is the biggest piece of crap I've read today and seems to be the acceptable norm these days. Cheers!
Parsad Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 4 hours ago, RichardGibbons said: Ok, yeah, there's a bunch of racist stuff at SFU, and the fact that you believe lawsuits would be filed kind of indicates your lack of understanding. It's pretty clear to me at this point, it's you are likely just choosing not to see it. Which is fair enough--people typically don't care too much about racism when it isn't targeting the people they care about. Or it could just be you are seeing what you want to see or extrapolating from one-offs. Cheers!
RichardGibbons Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 4 hours ago, Parsad said: Or it could just be you are seeing what you want to see or extrapolating from one-offs. Cheers! I mean, it's pretty obvious, and clearly not one-offs. Every grant proposal requires a section discussing how people will be discriminated against based on race If your proposal's discrimination section isn't properly racist, you won't get funding and are basically fucked as a professor Most professor jobs postings in both SFU and Canada say that they will discriminate against candidates based on race. Universities discriminate on the basis of race for entry into schools, particularly grad schools If you argue against racist policies as a professor, you will be unable to be promoted, and potentially run out of town. As someone with less power on campus, you're more screwed. You can pretend everything is just fine. But the consequences are push-back from the right, defunding of eduction, and various bad things like that. I used to be a strong CBC supporter, and now I believe in defunding it because it's now clearly a net-negative to Canada. If universities continue the same way, they will be too, and I'm the type of guy who, 20 years ago, might have given 80% of his estate to universities. There are terrible consequences from installing broken ideologies in your population.
changegonnacome Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 On 7/19/2025 at 6:06 PM, 73 Reds said: So if the letter is false as Trump claims, does TDS preclude you from seeing the damage and clear intent on the part of the WSJ to cause harm to a sitting President? On 7/20/2025 at 1:51 PM, 73 Reds said: If the WSJ knows the letter is legit it has nothing to fear from litigation. If Trump knows the letter is legit he wouldn't be suing. If history is any guide, those of us looking at this objectively can guess the outcome. On 7/19/2025 at 6:32 PM, 73 Reds said: If the letter was real, why would Trump or anyone in his shoes make more of an issue of it? On 7/19/2025 at 9:55 PM, cubsfan said: They will never stop. It's always dishonest media, mixed with occasional outright slander....... So whats the MAGA story now?......Donald Trump bold face lied to the American people and his supporters.....told you guys it was democratic hoax, that the WSJ faked this letter, that it wasnt real........so let me guess whats the story today?......Democratic operatives created this dumb letter, infiltrated Epstein's Estate and inserted this letter in there while leaking it to the WSJ a couple of months ago, knowing a congressional committee would later subpoena it?
changegonnacome Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 On 7/21/2025 at 1:05 PM, 73 Reds said: Trump would not be suing if he knew that he could be proven wrong. He'd have far more to lose than whatever there is to gain. On 7/20/2025 at 9:38 PM, 73 Reds said: Only one party knows for sure whether the letter is legit. My bet is not on the WSJ. On 7/21/2025 at 12:53 AM, cubsfan said: Why would anyone listen to the WSJ, let alone the media clowns that are always wrong.
changegonnacome Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 I shouldn't be so harsh.....I know the MAGA folks give him the benefit of the doubt....I do know that the left loonies are slightly to blame for alot of that as they their boy who cried wolf act was trotted out again and again in Trump's 1st term....but do think MAGA also needs to re-boot from that stuff every now and again....and go back to 1st principles....which in this case would have told you the letter was real and the President was lying cause why else would the WSJ basically put its very existence on the line publishing a slanderous (if false) story about the MOST litigious President in history connecting him to the biggest (by media interested) peado in history.
Luke Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 28 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: I shouldn't be so harsh.....I know the MAGA folks give him the benefit of the doubt....I do know that the left loonies are slightly to blame for alot of that as they their boy who cried wolf act was trotted out again and again in Trump's 1st term....but do think MAGA also needs to re-boot from that stuff every now and again....and go back to 1st principles....which in this case would have told you the letter was real and the President was lying cause why else would the WSJ basically put its very existence on the line publishing a slanderous (if false) story about the MOST litigious President in history connecting him to the biggest (by media interested) peado in history. People have stepped back for a lot less. I think this letter is the nail in the coffin that shows how unreliable and frankly dangerous he is. There is no chance this is fake and if you think it is, no other evidence will please you anyways so discussion is pointless since everything can be fabricated by the left apparently.
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 3 hours ago, changegonnacome said: Who cares? No ones ever suggested that Trump is the poster boy for his past behavior. A big, fat nothing burger.
Gregmal Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, changegonnacome said: I shouldn't be so harsh.....I know the MAGA folks give him the benefit of the doubt....I do know that the left loonies are slightly to blame for alot of that as they their boy who cried wolf act was trotted out again and again in Trump's 1st term....but do think MAGA also needs to re-boot from that stuff every now and again....and go back to 1st principles....which in this case would have told you the letter was real and the President was lying cause why else would the WSJ basically put its very existence on the line publishing a slanderous (if false) story about the MOST litigious President in history connecting him to the biggest (by media interested) peado in history. Again I think what you guys are just completely failing to consider, is that everything written above as well as the other hoobityboobaly comes down to this….if people had known that Donald Trump once drew a silhouette of a female body, would they have instead chose to vote for higher taxes, systematic racism, lawlessness and open borders….thats why you guys keep seeing your smoking guns become broken water pistols. Trump writing a birthday card isn’t making anyone stupid enough to support a loon like Kamala Harris. Why can’t people grasp this? Edited September 9, 2025 by Gregmal
Luke Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 Its interesting that you guys repeatedly frame it as "just a birthday card". Thats a severe understatement and quite worrying that you dont seem to be able to see the problem.
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Again I think what you guys are just completely failing to consider, is that everything written above as well as the other hoobityboobaly comes down to this….if people had known that Donald Trump once drew a silhouette of a female body, would they have instead chose to vote for higher taxes, systematic racism, lawlessness and open borders….thats why you guys keep seeing your smoking guns become broken water pistols. Trump writing a birthday card isn’t making anyone stupid enough to support a loon like Kamala Harris. Why can’t people grasp this? Yeah, some "letter". They just can't seem to understand that it is the policies that Trump stands for and not the person that most people voted for and support. Bringing up what looks like an R- rated birthday card with boys' locker room banter from ??? years ago shows how deranged their mindset has become.
Gregmal Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Luke said: Its interesting that you guys repeatedly frame it as "just a birthday card". Thats a severe understatement and quite worrying that you dont seem to be able to see the problem. So vote for Kamala? You guys just don’t get it. But that’s ok. If nothing else all we are seeing is confirmation that people and publications are just trying to use the Epstein stuff to undermine Trump. It’s never been a secret Trump, among many others associated with Epstein for a period of time. This….confirms that……and you think this proves Kamala should’ve been president? lmfao Edited September 9, 2025 by Gregmal
Gregmal Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) Yea so we ll as predictably usual see the msm and certain factions of “them” go all in for the next week or so trying to brand into everyone’s brains how big a deal this is…full court press. Yup front and center today The NY Times wants you to think this is some earth shattering event…yes, the same NY Times that found the murdering of kids at a Catholic school worthy of the same front page coverage for all of 2 hours until the tranny was unveiled and then it was no longer a story…but now! A birthday card from 2005 or whatever….you better drop everything and make a big deal of it LOL Edited September 9, 2025 by Gregmal
dwy000 Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: Yea so we ll as predictably usual see the msm and certain factions of “them” go all in for the next week or so trying to brand into everyone’s brains how big a deal this is…full court press. Yup front and center today The NY Times wants you to think this is some earth shattering event…yes, the same NY Times that found the murdering of kids at a Catholic school worthy of the same front page coverage for all of 2 hours until the tranny was unveiled and then it was no longer a story…but now! A birthday card from 2005 or whatever….you better drop everything and make a big deal of it LOL It astounds me that potential pedophile with growing evidence is not concerning to you. And you have to ask what else is in there that he is so terrified of getting released. If you excuse pedophilia as a qualification for President because you like his immigration policy you've lost the plot as a human being or are clearly in a cult. Edited September 9, 2025 by dwy000
73 Reds Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dwy000 said: It astounds me that potential pedophile with growing evidence is not concerning to you. And you have to ask what else is in there that he is so terrified of getting released. If you excuse pedophilia as a qualification for President because you like his immigration policy you've lost the plot as a human being or are clearly in a cult. LOL!!!! "Potential"....."Growing evidence"...."what else is there".... Every time you post something in this thread you prove my point - Deranged! Edited September 9, 2025 by 73 Reds words
cubsfan Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 3 minutes ago, dwy000 said: It astounds me that potential pedophile with growing evidence is not concerning to you. And you have to ask what else is in there that he is so terrified of getting released. If you excuse pedophilia as a qualification for President because you like his immigration policy you've lost the plot as a human being or are clearly in a cult. After the last 4 years of an administration that tried to wreck the country - you shouldn't be surprised. The possibility of Kamala Harris continuing on with that destruction was way to much for Americans to take.
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