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[cubsfan]

20 minutes ago, cwericb said:

What I object to is your statement:  "Truth is, America is the only country in the world were the children of poor immigrants regularly move into the rich class through education, discpline and hard work - and are not discriminated against becuase of their race/religion/caste."

 

Canada, for one has always welcomed immigrants, many of whom have become very, very successful. 

 

Point taken. Well done.

Edited June 16, 2025 by cubsfan

[Blake Hampton]

I walked around where a lot of homeless people hang out yesterday, and I took the time to talk to a couple of them. It made me sad.

 

My questions to you are this: Do you think the money being given to corporations through tax cuts ever reaches these people? What about cuts to income tax?

 

I can tell you one thing for certain — tariffs and cuts to benefits definitely will.

This applies to many others outside of just the homeless. The homeless in this country are relatively small as a percentage of the population, and they normally have other underlying factors causing their predicaments, but there are a whole lot of people that are right on the edge.

 

Edited June 16, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[cubsfan]

7 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

I walked around where a lot of homeless people hang out yesterday, and I took the time to talk to a couple of them. It made me sad.

 

My question to you is: do you think the money being given to corporations through tax cuts ever reaches these people? What about cuts to income tax?

 

I can tell you one thing — tariffs and cuts to benefits definitely do.

This applies to many others outside of just the homeless. The homeless in this country are relatively small as a percentage, but there is a whole lot of people that are on the edge.`

 

When you focus on revenue growth - you create opportunites for many people.

 

We should worry about the poor and homeless. But look at a state like CA that has 50% of the homeless in the USA, and so much of the wealth. They do a terrible job of taking care of CA citizens, while showering billions and billions on illegals.

 

[Gregmal]

29 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

blame legislators for giving these people endless tax cuts during already large deficits. . This money shouldn't be there in the first place.

Yes 100%. Why hasn’t the carried interest loophole been closed? There’s a million examples and while you hate DJT for the easy to hate reasons, I personally have found the more detestable situation the continuation of the establishment folks. Trump is dynamite to the foundation of the establishment, both good and bad. Joe Biden, even the one with a working brain, defined the establishment to the core. Same with Obama and Dubya. 

[Parsad]

On 6/14/2025 at 6:02 PM, cubsfan said:

 

Bummer - 

 

 BREAKING: The alleged suspect named in the Minnesota lawmaker shootings is democrat Vance Luther Boelter. Boelter was appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board in 2019 by Gov. Tim Walz.
 

This photo is from inside the vehicle of the suspect in the targeted killing of two Democratic officials who were opposed to the Left’s free health care for illegals scheme. (Photo released by the Minnesota police.)

 

BREAKING - It’s been revealed the Minnesota democratic lawmakers shot last night, State Rep. Melissa Hortman and State Sen. John Hoffman, both recently voted against their party, with Hortman supporting repeal of free healthcare for illegals and Hoffman joining Republicans in the Senate to pass it.

 

Fact check Cubs...which isn't unusual for MAGA accusations:

 

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-did-vance-boelter-suspect-in-minnesota-shootings-have-close-ties-to-gov-tim-walz/601373519

 

Cheers!

[Parsad]

12 hours ago, vinod1 said:

I fail to understand why people need to be so hell-bent on supporting one side or the other. Can we not analyze them in the same way we analyze companies? Does no one even try to be objective anymore?

 

Trump has been right on a lot of the big things - immigration, trade policies, China. Of course, how he implements these things is in a completely idiotic way.

 

Democrats have been too elite, ignoring the real issues of the common man. 

 

To Trump supporters, he can rape their wife and daughter and their response would be "Do you think Biden would have been better? At least Trump used a condom and sent flowers." 

 

This is the kind of cuckish support that is amusing to see. Like when Trump called Ukraine president a dictator, they immediately start calling him dictator when they have never ever referred to him that way in the past.

 

This applies to left as well, supporting you know BLM protests in middle of Covid ignoring safety protocols they themselves insisted on, etc. 

 

Can we start calling it as it is, even if they are the team you are supporting?
 

 

 

 

 

+1!  Cheers!

[Blugolds]

4 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Yes 100%. Why hasn’t the carried interest loophole been closed? There’s a million examples and while you hate DJT for the easy to hate reasons, I personally have found the more detestable situation the continuation of the establishment folks. Trump is dynamite to the foundation of the establishment, both good and bad. Joe Biden, even the one with a working brain, defined the establishment to the core. Same with Obama and Dubya. 

+1 “dont hate the player, hate the game” I certainly dont have a problem with buybacks and return of capital, that is available to anyone who is an investor, thats the game, now if we talk about carried interest, and why certain groups get favorable treatments that are unavailable to the avg joe, thats bullshit. Same with the Washington insider trading etc etc can go on and on. 

 

If the rules of the game are fair and everyone knows them, and some choose not to play and not benefit from it, thats on them, if the rules are skewed to favor a few, that…I have a problem with. 

 

And they’re all guilty of it, almost every politician has mentioned closing the carried interest loophole in their campaign and yet here we are. 

 

I agree that Trump is definitely not “the establishment” he detests them, but that doesn’t mean he is for the avg guy, IMO its just more of the same, ie. selling bibles, sneakers, crypto etc. He is in the WH to make as much money as he can for the Trump clan and thats it IMO. That’s not to say that behavior isnt pretty much synonymous with Washington, but I dont feel, based on what we have seen thus far, that it’s any different with Trump. Other than maybe Tom Massie and Bernie Sanders (agree with them or not, and That’s why I mentioned two from different parties, I dont think either one is in it to get rich and genuinely wants to do what THEY think is right), Im pretty sure everyone that gets into politics is doing it to feather their own nest. 

[Parsad]

10 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Quit while you are ahead.  Losers always defend losers.

 

Talk about ignoring facts - why are you ignoring this one:

 

The murder's wife worked for Tim Waltz as a congressman.

She was detained yesterday for 3 hours when they caught her in her car with a gun, ammo and a passport. 

 

Maybe she was fleeing to the airport?  I won't say that because it's not a "fact"

 

Don't let the facts stop you from pushing your agenda:

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jun/15/conservatives-link-Tim-Walz-MN-lawmaker-shooting/

 

Cheers!

[Parsad]

8 hours ago, dwy000 said:

The "King" issue is not that they think he IS a king but that he wants to be and is increasingly acting it out.  The idea that Trump appears to want unreined power with no ability for congress or the courts to restrain him.  Thats the protest.  

 

In a truly free country, problematic social behaviors are only ones that impact the freedom of others or harm other people.  Protesting by both sides is absolutely fine as long as it stays peaceful.  Its the view that the other side needs to be shown their mistake because they dont agree with you that is the problematic part in a free country. 

 

+1!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, orthopa said:

I find it interesting for anyone to call Trump a king when and if they supported Kamala as the pick for the democrats. The "king" in power then nominated the "queen" to be "king". No primary. Not a single person in smallville USA voted for her as the nominee and the democrats took it all the way to the election.  Did we forget that?

 

Are we really concerned about kings and queens and loss of democracy or just don't like what hes doing? 

 

That would be no different if the shoe was on the other foot.  Vance is the automatic nominee if Trump is incapacitated.  The Electoral College voted for Vance, just like they did for Harris.  Cheers!

[Red Lion]

2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

I was thinking about it further, and I think that there almost has to be both.

 

And companies avoiding taxes through offshore means is certainly a big problem. I don't know how to solve that one. Seems scummy.

Let me blow your mind here Blake…what if we capped the charitable contribution limit at the same level as the estate tax exemption? 
 

Then the ultra wealthy could still fund their endowments, but their estates would pay the same estate tax as everyone else over the limit. 
 

Add a small VAT tax. Tax buybacks at the same rate as dividends. Cut the exorbitant entitlement spending. 
 

Lower rates for all and spur growth. 

[Gregmal]

3 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

That would be no different if the shoe was on the other foot.  Vance is the automatic nominee if Trump is incapacitated.  The Electoral College voted for Vance, just like they did for Harris.  Cheers!

No, no, no…it’s totally different because we aren’t talking about incapacitated… they specifically undermined the entire election process by handpicking a candidate that was never voted for, for a general election! If someone became incapacitated in office, sure…that isn’t what happened here. The Democratic Party full blown screwed the American people out of selecting a candidate of their choice.

[Parsad]

13 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

No, no, no…it’s totally different because we aren’t talking about incapacitated… they specifically undermined the entire election process by handpicking a candidate that was never voted for, for a general election! If someone became incapacitated in office, sure…that isn’t what happened here. The Democratic Party full blown screwed the American people out of selecting a candidate of their choice.

 

First you guys say Biden is incapacitated...then he isn't incapacitated...which is it?  Harris was the Electoral College's choice to be Vice-President.  Biden chose to step out of the race (resign) and Harris was chosen to run as President.  There is nothing there that contravenes the 25th Amendment:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

Cheers!

[Gregmal]

12 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

First you guys say Biden is incapacitated...then he isn't incapacitated...which is it?  Harris was the Electoral College's choice to be Vice-President.  Biden chose to step out of the race (resign) and Harris was chosen to run as President.  There is nothing there that contravenes the 25th Amendment:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

 

Cheers!

Biden being mentally shot was a far right conspiracy theory no? Which is it? For an election, you hold primaries…plain and simple 

[Gregmal]

Further, there’s now ample evidence for the widespread public to conclude that his mental state was in fact deliberately covered up, and that his removal from the election was a carefully staged coup. Why is this stuff so hard to admit?

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

Biden being mentally shot was a far right conspiracy theory no? Which is it? For an election, you hold primaries…plain and simple 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

 

President Biden withdrew his candidacy on July 21, following a series of age and health concerns, writing that doing so was "in the best interest of my party and the country". He endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as his successor.^[50] And though Biden had endorsed Harris as the new candidate at the top of the ticket, there was no obligation for the delegates to follow suit.^[51] By the next day, Harris had secured the non-binding support of enough uncommitted delegates that were previously pledged to Biden to make her the presumptive nominee.^[52] Harris became the nominee following a virtual roll call with the support of approximately 97.21% of all the delegates and faced opposition from 52 delegates voting for other candidates which were counted as "present" as well as 79 abstentions, most notably from Representative Mary Peltola, Representative Jared Golden, and Senator Jon Tester.^[53][54][55] Harris became the first Democratic nominee to be nominated despite not actively campaigning in the primaries since Hubert Humphrey in the 1968 United States presidential election, and the first to be nominated without winning the primaries since the modern Democratic Party primary procedure was created in 1972.

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

Further, there’s now ample evidence for the widespread public to conclude that his mental state was in fact deliberately covered up, and that his removal from the election was a carefully staged coup. Why is this stuff so hard to admit?

 

Yes, initiated by George Clooney!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

MAGA assassin captured!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-15-25

[Parsad]

On 6/14/2025 at 4:16 PM, Spekulatius said:

Does it get any better than this?

 

 

 

What was this about?  I'm guessing its a video of the smoking woman in the black dress sitting next to some older guy in the Presidential box?  Don't know who that old guy was, but that didn't seem like his daughter...lucky guy!  Cheers!

[Gregmal]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

 

President Biden withdrew his candidacy on July 21, following a series of age and health concerns, writing that doing so was "in the best interest of my party and the country". He endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris as his successor.^[50] And though Biden had endorsed Harris as the new candidate at the top of the ticket, there was no obligation for the delegates to follow suit.^[51] By the next day, Harris had secured the non-binding support of enough uncommitted delegates that were previously pledged to Biden to make her the presumptive nominee.^[52] Harris became the nominee following a virtual roll call with the support of approximately 97.21% of all the delegates and faced opposition from 52 delegates voting for other candidates which were counted as "present" as well as 79 abstentions, most notably from Representative Mary Peltola, Representative Jared Golden, and Senator Jon Tester.^[53][54][55] Harris became the first Democratic nominee to be nominated despite not actively campaigning in the primaries since Hubert Humphrey in the 1968 United States presidential election, and the first to be nominated without winning the primaries since the modern Democratic Party primary procedure was created in 1972.

Yea, I’m fully aware of “what happened”, however I’m also an American citizen and a history major. At absolute best, the process was historically unusual. But when you want to frame it, what resembles a “king” or “authoritarian” more, the previous regime and party in power usurping the American citizens right to select their next candidate, or a bunch of pissants stomping around with signs, influenced by mainstream media propaganda, protesting a guy who was elected the same way everyone traditionally elected President in the history of the country was, just cuz they dont like him?

[Sweet]

5 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Don't let the facts stop you from pushing your agenda:

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jun/15/conservatives-link-Tim-Walz-MN-lawmaker-shooting/

 

Cheers!

What’s this debunking.  Nobody in this thread claimed Tim Waltz took out is hit on his political opponents or any other wild stuff.
 

The most I heard anyone saying was that he was appointed by Waltz, and probably wasn’t MAGA - which hasn’t been debunked in this article.

Edited June 16, 2025 by Sweet

[Spekulatius]

5 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

What was this about?  I'm guessing its a video of the smoking woman in the black dress sitting next to some older guy in the Presidential box?  Don't know who that old guy was, but that didn't seem like his daughter...lucky guy!  Cheers!

Note the Palantir commercial.

[villainx]

6 hours ago, Gregmal said:

a history major

 

Did you feel a liberal art-ish major hinder or helped you professionally?  My thought process has always been let kids choose whatever they want to do, and if they have passion plus aptitude, things will work out.  But all this talk about AI making a lot of education a somewhat costly haphazard stepping point, not sure now.  Though who knows, my kids are still middle school level, so long way to go.

 

[adventurer]

12 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Fact check Cubs...which isn't unusual for MAGA accusations:

 

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-did-vance-boelter-suspect-in-minnesota-shootings-have-close-ties-to-gov-tim-walz/601373519

 

Cheers!

 

Why does that article not surprise me? Cubs way of reasoning is one of the weakest on this board...

“She had a gun, ammo, and a passport → therefore it is logical to create a narrative suggesting that she was going to flee the country (or commit a crime).” - cubsfan

That is basically like saying something like:

"Premise: A number is divisible by 2 and by 3.
Conclusion: Therefore, the number must be divisible by 23." - Also cubsfan, probably. 

 

Weak inductive inference. Might as well visit a course on logic instead. 

Edited June 16, 2025 by adventurer

[cubsfan]

3 minutes ago, adventurer said:

 

Why does that article not surprise me? Cubs way of reasoning is one of the weakest on this board...

“She had a gun, ammo, and a passport → therefore it is logical to create a narrative suggesting that she was going to flee the country (or commit a crime).” - cubsfan

That is basically like saying something like:

"Premise: A number is divisible by 2 and by 3.
Conclusion: Therefore, the number must be divisible by 23." - Also cubsfan, probably. 

 

Sounds a lot like all those idiots with the Russian/Trump Conspiracy theory or the clowns that bought the Hunter Laptop/CIA story.

 

You fit right in.