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[Sweet]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

Can you trust China? Yeah, that’s worked out well.  Korea & Japan have elections coming up. There is plenty of incentive for them to get deal frameworks agreed to, before the elections, so they have platforms to run on. I doubt their candidates are gonna say “let’s cozy up to China”

 

I doubt India & Taiwan want that either.

 

Those 4 get moving and I’d say we’re looking pretty good.

No I don’t think you can.

 

Can you trust Trump?  I don’t think you can either.

[Hektor]

9 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

You're doing a just great job in this topic.  - Thank you for that.  - Keep them coming!

I asked AI for fun. One of the things that AI thinks is:

Geopolitical Ramifications: Other nations, particularly the UK and Commonwealth countries, might object, and global alliances could shift.

 

Another potential hurdle it noted is related to Indigenous groups of Canada:

 

Treaty Rights: Many Indigenous groups in Canada have treaties with the Canadian government (e.g., Numbered Treaties, modern land claims agreements) that guarantee rights to land, self-governance, and resources. These treaties are constitutionally protected under Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982.

 

Self-Governance: Some Indigenous communities operate under self-government agreements, managing their own education, health, and justice systems.

[Hektor]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

He's too busy yelling at Bezos because Amazon was going to show tariff charges on their site and on purchases:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/business/white-house-calls-report-that-amazon-is-adding-a-tariff-charge-a-hostile-action/index.html

 

Cheers!

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-us-president-pope-francis-catholic-church/

 

[John Hjorth]

21 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Yea I mean I think the way Sanjeev has it now is fine. A designated politics thread is fair warning. Nobody posting in this thread is really attempting to be objective and as long as it stays here, that’s fine. The worst offenders actually being the ones whom don’t think their shit stinks. 

 

Greg [ @Gregmal ],

 

No, because it's not about well artigulated and phrased opinions, which we all have the personal privilege of here on CofB&F, it's more about :

 

Responding to tone,

Ad hominem, and

Name-calling,

 

in short, it's about bad community behavior here on CofB&F.

 

[cubsfan]

57 minutes ago, Sweet said:

No I don’t think you can.

 

Can you trust Trump?  I don’t think you can either.

 

That's easy. Then you don't sign a trade agreement.

[Sweet]

2 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

That's easy. Then you don't sign a trade agreement.

 

If YOU were Canada and Mexico, would you trust Trump?  You keep avoiding the question.

 

[Gregmal]

13 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Greg [ @Gregmal ],

 

No, because it's not about well artigulated and phrased opinions, which we all have the personal privilege of here on CofB&F, it's more about :

 

Responding to tone,

Ad hominem, and

Name-calling,

 

in short, it's about bad community behavior here on CofB&F.

 

Nah, because what we ve seen enough of in these topics is even the people whom think they’re presenting facts put out these super long and even sourced, what shall we call them…diatribes, and in reality they’re just citing confirmation bias bs and flawed sources. Making it all pretty much just junk. 

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

If YOU were Canada and Mexico, would you trust Trump?  You keep avoiding the question.

 

 

Sure I would! I'm not avoiding anything.

Edited April 29, 2025 by cubsfan

[cubsfan]

3 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Nah, because what we ve seen enough of in these topics is even the people whom think they’re presenting facts put out these super long and even sourced, what shall we call them…diatribes, and in reality they’re just citing confirmation bias bs and flawed sources. Making it all pretty much just junk. 

 

Uh, yeah, that would be right on...

[Spekulatius]

7 hours ago, gfp said:

 

 

Imagine being so clueless that you don't question a figure like this:

"

there 152 MILLION Americans who use Temu daily. "

Using daily probably refers to using the app or checking on a notification.

[Spekulatius]

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

Can you trust China? Yeah, that’s worked out well.  Korea & Japan have elections coming up. There is plenty of incentive for them to get deal frameworks agreed to, before the elections, so they have platforms to run on. I doubt their candidates are gonna say “let’s cozy up to China”

 

I doubt India & Taiwan want that either.

 

Those 4 get moving and I’d say we’re looking pretty good.

Korea said already no deal before their election. i think India has the most to gain and hence will try to close a deal first, because they want to replace China as a trading partner. They also have fairly high tariffs themselves.

[cubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Korea said already no deal before their election. i think India has the most to gain and hence will try to close a deal first, because they want to replace China as a trading partner. They also have fairly high tariffs themselves.

 

I understand that. My guess is they get most of the details handled before the elections, then formalized afterwards. These guys don't want to wait around as there is too much at stake. 

[james22]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

in short, it's about bad community behavior here on CofB&F

 

And maybe it's more about just not sharing the same sense of humor?

 

Anyway, you probably shouldn't expect a well articulated and phrased rebuttal to an argument someone else simple finds absurd (given the assumption one can't reason someone from a position they didn't reason themselves into). 

 

 

[Hektor]

On 4/15/2025 at 11:00 PM, lnofeisone said:

I can already see "the Congress is holding back our beloved change agent!" rant from some board members. 

Found this one on Washington Post today

 

I find this remarkable for a party that controls all 3 levers of political power.

[cubsfan]

7 minutes ago, Hektor said:

Found this one on Washington Post today

 

I find this remarkable for a party that controls all 3 levers of political power.

 

It's a shame that now days, these large omni-bus bills are the only things that get passed anymore.

 

Since congress fails to do it's job - the only way to get things done is via executive orders.

 

 

[Gregmal]

We’ve literally had folks posting what they think is concrete evidence that Trump is lying and has no plan with the tariffs. When you change the variables around it’s kind of obvious how stupid the argument is and how the “facts” aren’t really facts at all.

 

Vlad Jr asked the Blue Jays for $600m. He ended up signing for $500m. Ah ha! He lied! He’s a POS! He had no plan and caved! Yes!

 

 

LMFAO whereas a normal non deranged thought process would be…it’s called a negotiation. No one goes in guns blazing with their final offer on day 1. Sure you could call it lying, or caving, but that says more about your understandings of how things work than anything. 
 

To the above point, responding to such nonsense, whether with 5 paragraphs and sources and quotes and podcasts, or simply saying “that’s retarded” is one in the same to such a bogus tirade; in fact, simply calling it retarded would be more efficient from a time perspective. Why should someone else’s issue become my burden?

[thepupil]

13 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

We’ve literally had folks posting what they think is concrete evidence that Trump is lying and has no plan with the tariffs. When you change the variables around it’s kind of obvious how stupid the argument is and how the “facts” aren’t really facts at all.

 

Vlad Jr asked the Blue Jays for $600m. He ended up signing for $500m. Ah ha! He lied! He’s a POS! He had no plan and caved! Yes!

 

 

LMFAO whereas a normal non deranged thought process would be…it’s called a negotiation. No one goes in guns blazing with their final offer on day 1. Sure you could call it lying, or caving, but that says more about your understandings of how things work than anything. 
 

To the above point, responding to such nonsense, whether with 5 paragraphs and sources and quotes and podcasts, or simply saying “that’s retarded” is one in the same to such a bogus tirade; in fact, simply calling it retarded would be more efficient from a time perspective. Why should someone else’s issue become my burden?

 

what is the best articulation of the plan that you've seen?

[Gregmal]

3 minutes ago, thepupil said:

 

what is the best articulation of the plan that you've seen?

Typical Trump, start out crazy and over the top, and walk it way back and settle for small victories that can be touted as big ones. 

[thepupil]

32 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Typical Trump, start out crazy and over the top, and walk it way back and settle for small victories that can be touted as big ones. 

i mean...i guess...that's a "plan"...

 

I'm a #nevertrumper who despises him so I'll admit to bias potentially clouding my view, but i fail to see any rationality or benefit to the united states in this plan. 

 

if there was 10 year plan to bolster/domesticize significant components of  our industrial supply chain (defense/healthcare) at the expense of "pure free markets" I could get on board with that...but alienating the entirety of the world, including our heretofore closest allies does not seem like the easiest path to "small victories" 

 

it is honestly difficult for me to envision positives which result from the "plan" as enacted and that's why I'd conclude there is "no plan". perhaps the brilliance of it all will become clearer with time

[Gregmal]

9 minutes ago, thepupil said:

i mean...i guess...that's a "plan"...

 

I'm a #nevertrumper who despises him so I'll admit to bias potentially clouding my view, but i fail to see any rationality or benefit to the united states in this plan. 

 

if there was 10 year plan to bolster/domesticize significant components of  our industrial supply chain (defense/healthcare) at the expense of "pure free markets" I could get on board with that...but alienating the entirety of the world, including our heretofore closest allies does not seem like the easiest path to "small victories" 

 

it is honestly difficult for me to envision positives which result from the "plan" as enacted and that's why I'd conclude there is "no plan". perhaps the brilliance of it all will become clearer with time

That’s the plan…doesn’t mean I see its benefits either outside of strong arming some countries whom need us; so I share your confusion. End result is probably negligibly lower multiples for premium US stocks. Otherwise, think it’s just an opportunity to trade and short vol. 

 

See the benefit is one doesn’t have to care either way and certainly not be emotionally invested. Just take what the market gives you as always. Trump is the gift that keep on giving on that front. 

Edited April 30, 2025 by Gregmal

[beerbaron]

1 hour ago, Hektor said:

Found this one on Washington Post today

 

I find this remarkable for a party that controls all 3 levers of political power.

To be fair he did pass a lot of laws in 2017, he's trying to reengineer the world's economic system and fix a unsolvable war, that should count as +20 in my book.

 

Everybody should agree that  he has moved a lots of s**** around. The outcome of that disturbance can only be measured in years. In the mean time, plug your nose and hope it grows flowers and not disease. I just wished he would define a successful outcome so people could measure the success.

 

BeerBaron

Edited April 30, 2025 by beerbaron

[cubsfan]

48 minutes ago, thepupil said:

i mean...i guess...that's a "plan"...

 

I'm a #nevertrumper who despises him so I'll admit to bias potentially clouding my view, but i fail to see any rationality or benefit to the united states in this plan. 

 

if there was 10 year plan to bolster/domesticize significant components of  our industrial supply chain (defense/healthcare) at the expense of "pure free markets" I could get on board with that...but alienating the entirety of the world, including our heretofore closest allies does not seem like the easiest path to "small victories" 

 

it is honestly difficult for me to envision positives which result from the "plan" as enacted and that's why I'd conclude there is "no plan". perhaps the brilliance of it all will become clearer with time

 

Hate him as much as you like.  This is exactly what he did with NATO, 7 years ago, and got exactly what he wanted.  The Europeans despised him (still do) and it worked out tremendously to NATO's benefit. 

 

 

[thepupil]

what are you referring to? increased spending by non US members? 

[cubsfan]

Just now, thepupil said:

what are you referring to? increased spending by non US members? 

 

Exactly

[Blake Hampton]

Trump is the greatest prez of all time!!

 

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