Coronavirus

[Guest]

 

The WHO might be too heavily influenced by China.  I have merely pointed out that Trump has withdrawn the US’s influence — if someone filled the void, how unexpected.

 

Yeah, we need WHO about as much as we need the UN - both are worthless organizations. Let's keep funding them though!

 

How about we don’t fill the open US seat for years at the WHO and then complain.  That’s what he did.

 

It's hard not to complain when you're perfect and no one else is!

[rb]

Nice to see the President taking on the corruption of The WHO:

 

The President who didn't fill the US seat at the WHO, and who now claims the US has less influence than China at the WHO?  The one who loudly praised the Chinese handling of the virus on Twitter in late January?  Who ignored US Intelligence warnings about the virus? And now blames the WHO as part of a CYA compaign that includes blaming the governors for the US's stay-at-home response at a time when the Federal guidelines recommended stay-at-home?

 

Right... nice to see all of that.

 

Trump taking on corruption is the most laughable idea I've ever heard. It's like OJ Simpson saying he's going to find the murderer... Anyone who seriously believes that, I have a bridge to sell them.

 

Trump is looking for someone to blame for his shortcomings and incompetence, as usual, and the WHO is just one of the latest victims.

 

The WHO might be too heavily influenced by China.  I have never disputed that.  I have merely pointed out that Trump has withdrawn the US’s influence — if someone filled the void, how unexpected.

This is pretty typical Trump supporter logic.

 

Trump: Let's pull out of X international organization.

China moves in.

Trump Supporter: Let's pull out of Y organization. China is has too much influence, just look at X organization.

 

China has already proven that they're willing to spend money to get influence. There must be a collective laughter somewhere in Beijing when they see China haters making their job easier.

[cubsfan]

Nice to see the President taking on the corruption of The WHO:

 

The President who didn't fill the US seat at the WHO, and who now claims the US has less influence than China at the WHO?  The one who loudly praised the Chinese handling of the virus on Twitter in late January?  Who ignored US Intelligence warnings about the virus? And now blames the WHO as part of a CYA compaign that includes blaming the governors for the US's stay-at-home response at a time when the Federal guidelines recommended stay-at-home?

 

Right... nice to see all of that.

 

Trump taking on corruption is the most laughable idea I've ever heard. It's like OJ Simpson saying he's going to find the murderer... Anyone who seriously believes that, I have a bridge to sell them.

 

Trump is looking for someone to blame for his shortcomings and incompetence, as usual, and the WHO is just one of the latest victims.

 

The WHO might be too heavily influenced by China.  I have never disputed that.  I have merely pointed out that Trump has withdrawn the US’s influence — if someone filled the void, how unexpected.

This is pretty typical Trump supporter logic.

 

Trump: Let's pull out of X international organization.

China moves in.

Trump Supporter: Let's pull out of Y organization. China is has too much influence, just look at X organization.

 

China has already proven that they're willing to spend money to get influence. There must be a collective laughter somewhere in Beijing when they see China haters making their job easier.

 

Now that is really dumb - let's give money to a failed organization so they can fail some more.

 

The WHO corruption is completely obvious. Once again, your logic does not pass the smell test.

 

We should have given NATO some more money instead of threatening defunding an organization that had a bunch of free riders underfunding it.

 

Oh, shit !  That worked brilliantly for Trump - much to the embarrassment of idiot liberals.

 

Here's a brilliant liberal idea for you: LET'S GIVE IRAN BILLIONS SO THEY WON'T BUILD A NUKE AND DESTABILIZE THE MIDDLE EAST.

 

Oh, shit!  We tried that brilliant idea too.

 

You guys are full of laughs today

[ERICOPOLY]

Now that is really dumb - let's give money to a failed organization so they can fail some more.

 

There was a time when the US's enemies criticized the UN for being the US's puppet.  Trump left a vacant US seat unfilled at the WHO and is now withdrawing funding.  I don't think the UN will be accused of being Trump's puppet with this behavior.

 

[cwericb]

Trump ignored WHO’s warnings back in January and is now trying to blame WHO for it. As far as funding WHO is concerned, the US is $200,000,000 in arrears. And yet Cubs complains about NATO members not paying their share? Ironic isn't it.

 

Remember those cult members that Trump said would still vote for him if he shot someone on 5th Ave?

 

He was talking about Cubsfan. According to Cubs, Trump is a very stable genius who is always right. If trump said black was white, Cubs would agree and no amount of logic here would change his mind.

[Liberty]

Nice to see the President taking on the corruption of The WHO:

 

The President who didn't fill the US seat at the WHO, and who now claims the US has less influence than China at the WHO?  The one who loudly praised the Chinese handling of the virus on Twitter in late January?  Who ignored US Intelligence warnings about the virus? And now blames the WHO as part of a CYA compaign that includes blaming the governors for the US's stay-at-home response at a time when the Federal guidelines recommended stay-at-home?

 

Right... nice to see all of that.

 

Trump taking on corruption is the most laughable idea I've ever heard. It's like OJ Simpson saying he's going to find the murderer... Anyone who seriously believes that, I have a bridge to sell them.

 

Trump is looking for someone to blame for his shortcomings and incompetence, as usual, and the WHO is just one of the latest victims.

 

The WHO might be too heavily influenced by China.  I have never disputed that.  I have merely pointed out that Trump has withdrawn the US’s influence — if someone filled the void, how unexpected.

 

Yeah, me neither. But here’s the art of the deal:

 

Trump demands that @WHO “demonstrate independence from China.” Yet if he pulls U.S. funding, that will make the W.H.O. far more dependent on China. China is already rushing to fill the vacuum that America leaves behind.

 

 

On Jan 12, @WHO got the virus genome from China and asked a German team to develop a test. The test was ready Jan 16. On Jan 30, @WHO declared a health emergency.

[rb]

Nice to see the President taking on the corruption of The WHO:

 

The President who didn't fill the US seat at the WHO, and who now claims the US has less influence than China at the WHO?  The one who loudly praised the Chinese handling of the virus on Twitter in late January?  Who ignored US Intelligence warnings about the virus? And now blames the WHO as part of a CYA compaign that includes blaming the governors for the US's stay-at-home response at a time when the Federal guidelines recommended stay-at-home?

 

Right... nice to see all of that.

 

Trump taking on corruption is the most laughable idea I've ever heard. It's like OJ Simpson saying he's going to find the murderer... Anyone who seriously believes that, I have a bridge to sell them.

 

Trump is looking for someone to blame for his shortcomings and incompetence, as usual, and the WHO is just one of the latest victims.

 

The WHO might be too heavily influenced by China.  I have never disputed that.  I have merely pointed out that Trump has withdrawn the US’s influence — if someone filled the void, how unexpected.

This is pretty typical Trump supporter logic.

 

Trump: Let's pull out of X international organization.

China moves in.

Trump Supporter: Let's pull out of Y organization. China is has too much influence, just look at X organization.

 

China has already proven that they're willing to spend money to get influence. There must be a collective laughter somewhere in Beijing when they see China haters making their job easier.

 

Now that is really dumb - let's give money to a failed organization so they can fail some more.

 

The WHO corruption is completely obvious. Once again, your logic does not pass the smell test.

 

We should have given NATO some more money instead of threatening defunding an organization that had a bunch of free riders underfunding it.

 

Oh, shit !  That worked brilliantly for Trump - much to the embarrassment of idiot liberals.

 

Here's a brilliant liberal idea for you: LET'S GIVE IRAN BILLIONS SO THEY WON'T BUILD A NUKE AND DESTABILIZE THE MIDDLE EAST.

 

Oh, shit!  We tried that brilliant idea too.

 

You guys are full of laughs today

ugh

[cubsfan]

Trump ignored WHO’s warnings back in January and is now trying to blame WHO for it. As far as funding WHO is concerned, the US is $200,000,000 in arrears. And yet Cubs complains about NATO members not paying their share? Ironic isn't it.

 

Remember those cult members that Trump said would still vote for him if he shot someone on 5th Ave?

 

He was talking about Cubsfan. According to Cubs, Trump is a very stable genius who is always right. If trump said black was white, Cubs would agree and no amount of logic here would change his mind.

 

Nice tweet by James Woods today:

 

But sadly after three years of witch hunts it turns out the only actual intervention in our democracy was the cancer that was the Obama White House

 

I know it's tough for you guys to accept that your takedowns of Trump are vanishing into thin air.

 

Keep at it though guys...just makes you look like sore losers..

 

[cwericb]

And James Woods is an acknowledged expert on the subject how? What specifically are his qualifications. Oh, yes, he is a Trump supporter so he must be right.

[Spekulatius]

Trump ignored WHO’s warnings back in January and is now trying to blame WHO for it. As far as funding WHO is concerned, the US is $200,000,000 in arrears. And yet Cubs complains about NATO members not paying their share? Ironic isn't it.

 

Remember those cult members that Trump said would still vote for him if he shot someone on 5th Ave?

 

He was talking about Cubsfan. According to Cubs, Trump is a very stable genius who is always right. If trump said black was white, Cubs would agree and no amount of logic here would change his mind.

 

It is pretty clear that the WHO made serious mistakes in this epidemic. It’s doesn’t seem the right solution for the US to leave the WHO alone as it doesn’t solve any problems. if the WHO is too beholden to China and it t well be, then the solution is to Reduce China’s influence on this very important organization.

 

Why is this organization impotent? An epidemic is a world wide issue as we have seen and it doesn’t care about border, race, politics and skin color. Once it gets started, it’s going to go everywhere.

 

The WHO did blinder, but also keep in mind That when you read what they’re wrote -  “No evidence of human to human transmission” - it means exactly nothing! no evidence (yet) doesn’t mean that there is no human to human transmission, it just means that they hunt seen evidence that proof yet.

 

The US he their own boots on the ground and regardless of what the WHO said, we had information already, the intelligence briefing mid January was proof of this. Keep in mind that this thread was started in late January l all based on public domain info.

 

So the failure of the WHO is no excuse for the failure of the US to deal with this internally, especially since many countries have done this so much better l even though they had no better intel than the US.

 

The failure of the WHO need to be investigated  and will, other countries have asked for it, but killing the WHO and having no equivalent can’t be the solution.

 

The WHO has helped to prevent Ebola and SARS from becoming an epidemic in the past and maybe others as well. It’s a pretty small insurance policy (~$560M is really a drop on the bucket compared to what we spent to fix this problem).

[cubsfan]

And James Woods is an acknowledged expert on the subject how? What specifically are his qualifications. Oh, yes, he is a Trump supporter so he must be right.

 

Woods has a lot more common sense than you do on this subject!

[ERICOPOLY]

And James Woods is an acknowledged expert on the subject how? What specifically are his qualifications. Oh, yes, he is a Trump supporter so he must be right.

 

He is famous.  Many are impressed by that.

[cwericb]

And just imagine if he was on a reality show. It is a wonder some here are not quoting the Kardashians.

[Liberty]

Yikes, even if you’re for, this can be rough for muscle mass..

 

[Liberty]

And just imagine if he was on a reality show. It is a wonder some here are not quoting the Kardashians.

 

If we’re comparing reality tv celebrities, Trump is a worse businessperson than Kim by far.

[Gregmal]

Ha! So when its a liberal actor/athlete mouthing off, they deserve to be heard and are applauded for their activism. When its a Republican then we revert back to disparaging the fact that he is just "famous" and not really qualified to give an opinion. Again, interesting.

[ERICOPOLY]

Ha! So when its a liberal actor/athlete mouthing off, they deserve to be heard and are applauded for their activism. When its a Republican then we revert back to disparaging the fact that he is just "famous" and not really qualified to give an opinion. Again, interesting.

 

You are generalizing.  Nobody on this board is quoting Liberal actors.  The painful thing about the James Woods' quote was that it provided no information -- just his opinion, and oh yeah it matters 'cause he's famous.

 

James Woods likes Trump and not Obama, so gee whiz guys, you Liberals surely have no answer to that one!  Quite silly.

[LC]

Ha! So when its a liberal actor/athlete mouthing off, they deserve to be heard and are applauded for their activism. When its a Republican then we revert back to disparaging the fact that he is just "famous" and not really qualified to give an opinion. Again, interesting.

 

It’s about the content. Mitt Romney has been critical of Trump’s COVID response - rightly so IMO.

[cwericb]

Ha! So when its a liberal actor/athlete mouthing off, they deserve to be heard and are applauded for their activism. When its a Republican then we revert back to disparaging the fact that he is just "famous" and not really qualified to give an opinion. Again, interesting.

 

No, Cubs was quoting Woods as he was some sort of expert. Great actor, but I don't think he qualifies as an independent expert. And no one here to my knowledge was quoting any of the many actors who don't agree with Trump.

 

Actors are not necessary to quote as there are so many experts available who disagree with Trump

[ERICOPOLY]

Ha! So when its a liberal actor/athlete mouthing off, they deserve to be heard and are applauded for their activism. When its a Republican then we revert back to disparaging the fact that he is just "famous" and not really qualified to give an opinion. Again, interesting.

 

No, Cubs was quoting Woods as he was some sort of expert. Great actor, but I don't think he qualifies as an independent expert. And no one here to my knowledge was quoting any of the many actors who don't agree with Trump.

 

Actors are not necessary to quote as there are so many experts available who disagree with Trump

 

 

He may just very well be a Trump expert:

 

The case was moving along... and then something bizarre happened. Abe List (whoever that is) died (unexpectedly, apparently). Woods then took to Twitter to obnoxiously gloat about "winning" the case, leaving out the fact that the case was ending due to the death of the defendant. After people pointed out to Woods how ridiculous it was that he was gloating over a "victory" when someone had died, the ever classy Woods, gloated some more, first saying he hoped that List died "screaming my name. in agony" and then later saying: "Learn this. Libel me, I'll sue you. If you die, I'll follow you to the bowels of Hell. Get it?"

 

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170103/16424336399/confirmed-horrible-person-james-woods-continues-being-horrible-winning-awful-lawsuit-to-unmask-deceased-online-critic.shtml

[cubsfan]

Since you guys are enjoying James Woods - this one is even better:

 

Let’s face it. Donald Trump is a rough individual. He is vain, insensitive and raw. But he loves America more than any President in my lifetime. He is the last firewall between us and this cesspool called Washington. I’ll take him any day over any of these bums.

 

He may be an actor, but he makes a lot more sense than you guys.

[cwericb]

Yup. You quote an actor and ignore all the experts that try to tell you the guy is off the rails. Nice.

 

You are delusional if you believe Trump loves America. Trump loves Trump. Period.

[Liberty]

Oh, he loves America says some old actor. Checkmate I guess?

 

Reminds me how Trump immediately threw America under the bus unprompted as soon as Putin was attacked in an interview...

 

 

But that's off topic.

 

Can we stop wasting time on someone who can't reason his way out of a paper bag and get back to COVID19.

[cwericb]

"Can we stop wasting time on someone who can't reason his way out of a paper bag and get back to COVID19."

 

It is hard to ignore the Trump Troll, when he makes so many misinformed statements and ignores all sense and logic. Unfortunately, Trump and his actions has such a major impact  on what will happen with with COVID 19 it is hard to separate the two subjects.

[LC]

Florida allegedly manipulating COVID data.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/19/florida-covid-19-coronavirus-data-researcher-out-state-reopens/5218897002/