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I genuinely want to watch this to know what a ‘far-right conservative’ is. That’s a new term for me. However it’s 1hr 40min, no chance.

In news that will surprise no one: ”Reeves’s capital gains tax changes ‘backfire’ as Treasury receipts fall sharply” https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/tax/capital-gains-tax-receipts-changes-backfire Although Reeves was blamed this started under the Conservatives who reduced the capital gains tax free rate from 12k to just 3k. Then reeves hiked the rate from 10% for lower earnings to 20%, and to 24% for the higher earners. So yeh, I’m just not going to sell as much, or I am going to make disposals through my wife. Big shocker than increases the taxes on capital gains reduced the tax take.

Sold a slug of Shittybank because still have a decent position. It has been good to me.

LC, perhaps you should take issue with the definition of rape, it’s not like I wrote it. And with regard with the trial, it was her word against his. Yeh there were other ‘witnesses’ but none of them actually saw anything. And with respect to judges courts etc. In the UK during, particularly Northern Ireland, a new type of ‘Diplock courts’ which had all sorts of mitigations to prevent threatening, assault and sometimes murder of judges and members of the jury testifying against paramilitary gangs. Sometimes there is no other way.

Agree overall. Although I’d add, that the West accepting doctors, nurses, engineers etc also has a massive impact on the development of their native countries. To give an example, I read that the UK has something like 30 times more doctors per head of population than countries in Africa. Those who are ‘pro’ this type of immigration because it’s good for ‘us’ oddly don’t seem to care what is good people in the developing world. One mitigation to the immigration problem is originating countries becoming more developed.

But they are illegal. They are supposed to be stopped at the border. The whole reason why ICE are having to take people off the streets is because the proper process for stopping, detaining and deporting illegals was not implemented. There really isn’t another way to do this that doesn’t massively slow and impede efforts that I’m aware of.

Nah, I’m pretty sure I know the difference between rape and sexual assault. It’s one side broadening the definition. I also know the broad difference between civil and criminal liability.

I could be wrong, but if Trump was seriously involved with Epstein I feel like it would have been leaked. There is no end of people after the guy.

Nah, they can claim asylum and then have a liberal court block deportation for years… or much longer.

During times of war men are drafted and sent to their deaths in huge numbers. Stop complaining about the possibility of having to prove your citizenship - ‘ma rights’. Truly bizarre. I don’t get it. I would never presume a Middle East country (where he is from) would share the same values as me. And I sure as shit wouldn’t go their for a job and then complain about them.

I found the source of your graph and this is what it says: ”There have always been episodes of migration to Britain but, as this paper demonstrates, those episodes were small and demographically insignificant until the Second World War.” From the same source: ”It has been asserted that 'the basic human stock of England has been settled and relatively homogenous since time immemorial’[4] but there have always been some movements of people to (and from) Britain.” The Windsor’s were from Hanover - ONE family from the area of North West Europe that nearly all immigrants to the UK came from. The UK was not, until very recently, a multi-cultural or multi-ethnic society. This is lefty revisionism. Edit - I just checked the ethnicity of these migrants, nearly all were North West European, people’s as close as you can get to being British without being British, and for the most part readily assimilated leave no balkanised enclave.

Ah yes, the rape that wasn’t a rape by New York’s own definition, but the judge say is was kinda rape. In a civil trial no less, not even criminal, likely because it couldn’t possibly hold up to a criminal standard.

did they get deported? If not, and they got released, then they did in fact get due process even if it was slower than you would like. They proved they were citizens. Not nice for them, but these are the new rules. I’d be telling citizens to be carrying ID - always. A lot of these people complaining just don’t want deportations and are hiding behind ‘principles’ and ‘due process’ to thwart it when they had little regard for either in the recent past. Edit - for example, ‘rapist in chief’. Was he criminally convicted of rape? You talk about due process, perhaps you could afford some to Trump if those are your ‘principles’.

This is one thing that always baffled me. We have a guy working with us, he came to the country two years. Lovely person. But he tells me he is out protesting and flying the Palestinian flag in the city centre each weekend. Sorry, but why come here to protest. I would never do that in someone else’s country. If you aren’t satisfied with the laws and culture - LEAVE. We are having more public areas made dog free because Muslims think they dirty - I mean come on.

UK culture and traditions does not begin in the early 1900s. Even then, the immigration that you are referring to was so so tiny that it had no effect on demography. By the year 1950, the UK was still 99%+ white / British, by 2000 the UK was still 95% British / White. The immigration of early Britain was nearly all from North-West European, and they were completely assimilated. And even then some of that immigration was terrible, the Vikings in particular were a menace.

Is it by the laws we currently have? Asylum laws have been reinterpreted to give people who are obviously economic migrants asylum. Examples in the UK are Muslims claiming they are Christian to escape persecution - when in fact they continue to practice Islam.

Which goes to prove that US citizens are in fact getting due process because they are citizens.

UK culture is not a result of immigrants, this is made up bollox. The UK was a homogenous society, with the sphere of migration coming from North West Europeans until the last 50 odd years. America is different because it was always a melting pot of sorts, but it has its limits to. Many of thr aforementioned immigrants had broadly the same culture, and their differences like - the Irish and Italians were catholic - are slight in the grand scheme of things. Plenty of places have a homogenous culture still to this day. It’s not just Japan. Many countries in Africa, Middle East, East Asia. In fact until very recently they were homogenous except North and South America.

Unfortunately LC our governments haven’t been enforcing our laws for a long time. There is not one thing wrong with sending people back who aren’t supposed to be here. Nothing. Everyone should be given a chance to prove they are a citizens. If they are illegal though, they broke the law coming, they shouldn’t be deported immediately, that’s all the due process required.

Why are they masked? For their own safety I expect. If illegally entered then I don’t see an issue with them being held and then deported without representation. Nothing stops your neighbour claiming you are illegal, if you have proof that you are a citizen it doesn’t matter what they claim. Principles were first compromised when governments decided to illegal immigration was ok. When it went from illegal to undocumented. No one who enters any country illegally should be allowed to stay, there is no need for representation except to prove you are legal resident or citizen. And even for legal residents, I believe that can be revoked for any reason or no reason.

I’m not American, and I’m not in America enough to know what the feeling is on the ground. I’m speaking of the UK where I live and where I am from, the issues are similar though, there and here. We’ve went from a homogenous society where everyone was British and had broadly the same values, to parts of the UK which have been balkanised and sectarian. This is Birmingham, ‘white’ shorthand for British, nobody voted for this. In fact we Brits have consistently voted for less immigration and got vastly more instead: Edit - and to preempt the expected replies, British tradition and culture is inseparable from British people. The tradition and culture originates and is given form by British people. It’s not about disliking other ethnicities or races, but about preserving what it means to be ‘us’.

Exactly

I didn’t say you, I said people like you. And part of the issue is you don’t even know what the far-right is. To modern liberals the far-right is mainstream conservative thinking 40 years ago.

Why is it fine? I’m older enough to remember when the UK was homogenous and we had none of this. Diversity in the UK has mean division. Note it’s not equality it’s equity. And inclusion, why should we seek to include cultures and values at odds with ours?

I don’t think you understand LC. We might very well get the actual kind of fascism that you wrongly think we already have should the immigration issue in Europe not be fixed. And people like you will be partly to blame, because you think asking for papers and throwing people out of the country who aren’t supposed to be here is a extreme. Yet you don’t seem to understand that there are a bunch of ultra far-right loons, actual fascists, and actual extremists, who would do far worse if they could, will use the anti-immigration sentiment to get power.