cubsfan Posted June 27 Posted June 27 5 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: If you read what I write, you would likely come to the conclusion, and rightly, that I disagree with much of what Kernen has to say. But I oddly still like him. I think CNBCs lineup with Andrew, Becky, and Joe is perfect. I don’t know. It’s kind of like having @cubsfan on the board. He drives me crazy but I still think his views are important to consider. We call that progress Blake! LOL
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 11 minutes ago, Xerxes said: Joe's behaviour is unacceptable. Almost as if he went out to the bar with the boys last night and still had a bit too much morning after and he just wanted to fuck up Andrew Ross interview. Insecure aggression is the MAGA way.
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: We call that progress Blake! LOL Strong journalism makes an effort to eliminate bias in its reporting. If it's full of opinions, it ain't news. CNBC I think finds a good balance between its co-anchors. Cubs, I wish that you would find a way to consume better journalism. Read The Economist or the WSJ. It would be good for you.
Munger_Disciple Posted June 27 Posted June 27 (edited) I thought Joe's behavior in that interview was disgraceful. It's fine to ask a guest tough questions on TV but he should treat them with respect. Grantham might have called more bubbles than there were actual ones but he has a very decent long term track record and seems like a good human being from what I know publicly. Edited June 27 by Munger_Disciple
Spekulatius Posted June 27 Posted June 27 17 hours ago, NnnnotSoSmart said: Grantham is certainly a nut job. His crazy and glaringly unscientific obsession with "climate change" is evidence of it. A Grantham quote from an interview in 2022: "It strikes me as utterly trivial and only producible by economists. [...] The guy who got the Nobel Prize for it [William Nordhaus], for his work on climate change — actually he spelled it out. He said, 'Even if there was 10 degrees centigrade, it would only cost something in the range of 10 percent of GDP.' To which I say, 'Dudes, we will be long gone as a species at 10 degrees centigrade.' It is quite obvious at 1.1 [°C] that we are already having trouble. At 2, we will be struggling and societies will fail here, there, and everywhere. At 3, in a sense, forget about it [...] At 10 degrees . . . You cannot find a serious climate scientist who would bet that society, as we know it on a global basis, will still be around at 5 degrees centigrade. I have met a lot of them, and I ask them this question. Not one thinks we have any material chance of a stable society at 5 degrees centigrade." https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/jeremy-grantham/ In a 2012 Nature commentary, he urged climate scientists: "Be persuasive. Be brave. Be arrested if necessary. This is not only the crisis of your lives — it is also the crisis of our species' existence." He argued understatement is more dangerous than overstatement for this issue. https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2012/11/financier-jeremy-granthams-be-brave-advice-to-climate-scientists/ He is not wrong. A 10 Deg C increase in temperature results in our world looking more like Mad Max.
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Munger_Disciple said: I thought Joe's behavior in that interview was disgraceful. It's fine to ask a guest tough questions on TV but he should treat them with the respect. Grantham might have called more bubbles than there were actual ones but he has a very decent long term track record and seems like a good human being from what I know publicly. Look at your president. I believe we are past the point of worrying about the outbursts of news anchors unfortunately.
matthew2129 Posted June 27 Posted June 27 The only thing more comically wrong then his bear/short calls are his long calls. Bro was a China bull in 2020/2021
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 (edited) I think economic calamity is certain. I believe we will soon see the greatest financial crisis in human history: frozen credit, collapsing asset markets, desperate money printing in order to save us from it, and finally extreme inflation as that newly created money ultimately reaches the real economy. I often fear a complete currency collapse. Our country is running historic deficits during full employment. Our last two recessions both nearly led to economic collapse. We have an erratic leader, a broken Congress, and an apathetic public that has completely checked out. Our currency sits at the center of the global financial system. And never before in history have we seen trade imbalances of the size they are today. And the worst part is that no one cares. We're all just sitting here waiting to see how far faith alone can take us. But maybe Trump will save us. He likes to paint himself as a god and has convinced the MAGA crowd that his record of failure will somehow lead to solving our greatest problems. I am doubtful. Edited June 27 by Blake Hampton
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 (edited) It feels almost obvious to me, and it makes me feel crazy that seemingly no one else sees it. Maybe I am. Edited June 27 by Blake Hampton
matthew2129 Posted June 27 Posted June 27 7 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said: .. and finally extreme inflation as that newly created money ultimately reaches the real economy Sounds bullish for stocks tbh lol
Blake Hampton Posted June 27 Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, matthew2129 said: Sounds bullish for stocks tbh lol How Inflation Swindles the Equity Investor: Warren Buffett, May 1977 I actually have the original Fortune issue sitting on my shelf. I've probably read it 10 or 20 times.
cubsfan Posted June 27 Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Blake Hampton said: Strong journalism makes an effort to eliminate bias in its reporting. If it's full of opinions, it ain't news. CNBC I think finds a good balance between its co-anchors. Cubs, I wish that you would find a way to consume better journalism. Read The Economist or the WSJ. It would be good for you. I have not watched CNBC for years, after years of watching it. From occasional clips I see - looks like somewhat balanced with Kernan being conservative and Sorkin plenty left. I'll take your word for it.
Red Lion Posted June 28 Posted June 28 5 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: I think economic calamity is certain. I believe we will soon see the greatest financial crisis in human history: frozen credit, collapsing asset markets, desperate money printing in order to save us from it, and finally extreme inflation as that newly created money ultimately reaches the real economy. I often fear a complete currency collapse. Don’t you hold cash/t-bills? Or am I mistaking you with another poster?
patterson Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Newsom is proposing that “every American owns a stake in the future being built by AI through a national public equity fund that takes a major stake in the new economy.” https://gavinnewsom.substack.com/p/its-time-for-a-national-billionaires. Sanders suggests a much more aggressive plan that's unlikely to gain traction. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/01/opinion/artificial-intelligence-bernie-sanders.html. As we know, over the past decade or so, the Republicans have moved away from supporting relatively free markets and have embraced protectionism, pushing the Fed to lower rates, and taking equity stakes in companies that the administration deems vital to the national interest. At the same time, the Democrats, far from a free-market party to begin with, have moved further to the left on economic issues (see the recent NY primary winners). I don’t think proposals like Newsom’s will play well with primary voters who don’t want the government picking winners and losers or subsidizing AI, and I hope other Democratic candidates don’t pick up on this. On the other hand, I am concerned that (in my view) bad economic ideas will proliferate in times like these, particularly once primary season gets underway and if the AI mania is still in full swing by then.
LC Posted June 28 Posted June 28 1 hour ago, patterson said: I am concerned that (in my view) bad economic ideas will proliferate in times like these, particularly once primary season gets underway and if the AI mania is still in full swing by then. AI infrastructure as a resource could be compared to oil - do you think Norway's wealth fund is a similarly bad economic idea?
John Hjorth Posted June 28 Posted June 28 15 hours ago, Sinbius said: Not sure I would call someone that had donated already half on his net worth toward environmental causes (and has in program to donate something like 95%) a piece of $hit... And I would stop blaming people giving bad advice...and start accounting people for their own decision in their own finance... And if you think about it...for the people that do not get that is bad advice...it is actually good advice ...it is not that everybody should invest... Yeah, @Sinbius, Here at CofB&F, we are a bunch, a community, of individual DIY investors, that do our very best to steer clear of the costs related to the involvement of the institutional imperative, and we all know it's not in our power to save world from it. But we can actually still make a difference, a material difference for others than our selves, for some near and dear to us. Keeping the bulwark up, intact and running some times calls for, requires mentally venting to decompress, which is what I think Greg [ @Gregmal ] did here by starting this topic.
Spekulatius Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, LC said: AI infrastructure as a resource could be compared to oil - do you think Norway's wealth fund is a similarly bad economic idea? It’s a bad analogy, because the oil in Norway was already there. There is no AI sitting somewhere above or below the ground waiting to be unlocked -it’s has to be build first. If you don’t build it, there will be nothing. Edited June 28 by Spekulatius
John Hjorth Posted June 28 Posted June 28 9 hours ago, patterson said: ... On the other hand, I am concerned that (in my view) bad economic ideas will proliferate in times like these, particularly once primary season gets underway and if the AI mania is still in full swing by then. 8 hours ago, LC said: AI infrastructure as a resource could be compared to oil - do you think Norway's wealth fund is a similarly bad economic idea? 1 hour ago, Spekulatius said: It’s a bad analogy, because the oil in Norway was already there. There is no AI sitting somewhere above or below the ground waiting to be unlocked -it’s has to be build first. If you don’t build it, there will be nothing. I'm not totally sure how to read your above post @Spekulatius, but Norwegian O&G exploration was in the early Norwegian O&G days almost also a merely a concept, which took a lot of O&G engineering, R&D and CAPEX to bring it to reality, production. The practice of what I would call Norwegian successful state capitalism in the Norwegian O&G venture is an interesting study, that we perhaps should descuss in a topic outside this topic.
Spekulatius Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Hjorth said: I'm not totally sure how to read your above post @Spekulatius, but Norwegian O&G exploration was in the early Norwegian O&G days almost also a merely a concept, which took a lot of O&G engineering, R&D and CAPEX to bring it to reality, production. The practice of what I would call Norwegian successful state capitalism in the Norwegian O&G venture is an interesting study, that we perhaps should descuss in a topic outside this topic. Because the oil is a valuable resource. That doesn’t mean it easy to get out, but it does mean the state can charge 80% taxes in Norway and the exploration and production is still profitable for Equifor. But there is no AI resource lying in the ground to be explored and produced. It‘s IP and needs to be created by entrepreneurs or there won’t be AI. Thats why it is entirely different. Edited June 28 by Spekulatius
cubsfan Posted June 28 Posted June 28 3 hours ago, Spekulatius said: It’s a bad analogy, because the oil in Norway was already there. There is no AI sitting somewhere above or below the ground waiting to be unlocked -it’s has to be build first. If you don’t build it, there will be nothing. THAT makes all the difference.
Spekulatius Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) I talked with my mom and the temperatures in the city she lives reached 40 DegC. It’s unbearable for some especially older people. not great but sooner or later German homes and apartment will need air conditioning. I lived in Germany recall the hot summers in 1976, 1983 and 2003 occurred after I left. The currently one beats them all by quite some margin and the official summer has barely begun. Climate change looks pretty real to me and countries e8ll have to adapt. I think air conditioning units and heat pumps (which can heat and cool) should sell fairly well. Edited June 28 by Spekulatius
patterson Posted June 28 Posted June 28 9 hours ago, LC said: AI infrastructure as a resource could be compared to oil - do you think Norway's wealth fund is a similarly bad economic idea? I don't know too much about Norway's sovereign wealth fund, but I understand that it is a vehicle to invest surplus tax revenue coming from oil. The fund does not act as a political or strategic owner (if you look at its holdings, it may as well be an index), is not permitted to own more than 10% voting shares, and is mandated to invest only in assets outside of Norway.
John Hjorth Posted June 28 Posted June 28 On 6/27/2026 at 12:10 AM, Spekulatius said: A gas station masquerading as a county runs out of gas: The Moscow Times [June 28th 2026] : Putin Vows to Ensure Russia’s Security Amid Ukraine Retaliatory Strikes - - - o 0 o - - - Naturally, everybody can count on that and take it as a given, despite other puclicly available facts. [*shrugg* }
boilermaker75 Posted June 28 Posted June 28 On 6/27/2026 at 7:10 AM, dealraker said: In September Angela and I will stay three weeks in Conwy then most of the time in Betws-y-Coed - both Wales. I think Betws-y-Coed population is 476. LOL! And 6 weeks ago we spent two weeks in Okehampton UK then one week in Falmouth. @dealraker Next week my wife and I are going to Llandudno, which is in Conwy County, for 8 days, then by train up to the Aigas Field Centre in the Highlands for 10 days, followed by flying to London for two days. We also like being in small places and interacting with the locals. The whole point of going to London was so that I could visit the Royal Institution and I just found out the Ri will be closed when we are there , which it wasn't when we booked the trip. I'll call them tomorrow to see if there is anyway I can get a special tour.
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