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[dealraker]

10 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Yup!  He half-assed it like everything else he does.  The only thing that has worked out for Trump was securing the southern border.  He's losing everything else...like the judges halting the closing of the Kennedy Center, removing his name from the Kennedy Center, halting the slush fund, refunding tariffs, etc.  Cheers!

Trump lovers over-state his ability and success and Trump haters over-state his ability and success.  The man is uncontested in his dragging otherwise decent and wise human beings into supporting his distraction, waste, and colossal failure for his projects that include others - all while grinding out media domination and scam based personal financial gains.

 

The man is unstoppable.  But beware because there is a point in all his endeavors where Trump wisely realizes there's no positive out for the projects, that his best avenue is to milk his the situation for all he can - and move on.  His age, the position, the incredible power and control we've chosen to lay with him will make the next 2-3 years exciting.  The evolving obvious will be that others, even family, are not his obsession.  Trump is obsessed about himself, getting revenge and screwing everyone else.

 

You will also see the most incredible effort of those who also mislead and scam to line up and get what they can while they can.  The chaos will be fun to watch and I'll be on the front row.  I have enjoyed watching this stuff from him for decades.

 

The most crazy thing of all is that so-called conservatives think Trump stands for them.  I think Trump intends to put as much harm on the Republican party as he possibly can.  Why?  Because Trump loathes the idea that someone else will be the power of the future, that literally drives this man to insanity.

[changegonnacome]

12 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Guy one is bigger, stronger, wealthier and has better connected friends. He destroys the yard, breaks the windows, and sets fire in the kitchen and leaves. Eventually he throws guy two a few bucks to say “my bad”. Not many rational people would say guy two was a big winner here…

 

Surviving a beating isn't a victory. Totally agree. But a vastly stronger party setting out via military action to overthrow a regime or at a minimum to impose their will at the negotiating table against a vastly weaker party and ultimately failing to do so is a not a victory for them either, it is at a minimum slightly embarrassing to not be able to get your way against such a weakling. Right?

 

It matters, I'd posit, because it diminishes your standing in the international jungle. At a minimum - your other enemies and 'allies', all things being equal, are a little less fearful of you moving forward. You were an 800ilb gorilla, maybe now folks are thinking you're probably more like a 750ilb gorilla! See the nuclear offer on the table pre-Epic Fury vs. Post Epic Fury has not materially changed (one can argue it's gotten worse). The stronger party failed at their top level goal (regime change) and even failed at their low level aim which was to impose their will and achieve incrementalism in the nuclear negotiations - and this despite all the exercising of force and the asymmetry in size, strength, wealth and allies. Not a situation which is reputation and fear enhancing for those looking on?

 

I think your analogy breaks down because international security competitions are not like UFC cage matches that ends after round 5 and 25 minutes and the winner is whoever landed more punches. The US clearly did. International security competitions are more like UFC cage matches that have an infinite number of rounds, 220 fighters and go on forever. The game is to be constantly improving your RELATIVE strength in the system. You are 'winning' in the international system when your relative strength is improving. You are losing when your relative strength is shrinking.

 

This Iran conflict, if it we're to end here with an MOU on Geneva-esque terms i.e. nothing incremental was achieved via Epic Fury, would be a diminishing/shrinking relative power event for the US. It setout to affect regime change and failed, it set out to improve the terms of a nuclear negotiation and failed - chiefly because the weaker party turned out to have more & better cards to play than was originally envisaged. Conversely Epic Fury has revealed an Iranian regime that is more resilient than envisaged with more strategic options (SOH blockade & regional annihilation) than many had given them credit for. In this respect Iran's relative perceived power has been enhanced via this conflict. It is not a good day in the Dept of War when you diminish your perceived relative power while enhancing the relative perceived power of someone like Iran. It's subtle nuanced point missed in all the frankly retarded who won, who lost the Iran-US cage match bi-partisan rhetoric on MSDNC and Fox news!

 

 

[Spekulatius]

8 hours ago, dealraker said:

Trump lovers over-state his ability and success and Trump haters over-state his ability and success.  The man is uncontested in his dragging otherwise decent and wise human beings into supporting his distraction, waste, and colossal failure for his projects that include others - all while grinding out media domination and scam based personal financial gains.

 

The man is unstoppable.  But beware because there is a point in all his endeavors where Trump wisely realizes there's no positive out for the projects, that his best avenue is to milk his the situation for all he can - and move on.  His age, the position, the incredible power and control we've chosen to lay with him will make the next 2-3 years exciting.  The evolving obvious will be that others, even family, are not his obsession.  Trump is obsessed about himself, getting revenge and screwing everyone else.

 

You will also see the most incredible effort of those who also mislead and scam to line up and get what they can while they can.  The chaos will be fun to watch and I'll be on the front row.  I have enjoyed watching this stuff from him for decades.

 

The most crazy thing of all is that so-called conservatives think Trump stands for them.  I think Trump intends to put as much harm on the Republican party as he possibly can.  Why?  Because Trump loathes the idea that someone else will be the power of the future, that literally drives this man to insanity.

The one thing I am sure about that everyone who deals with him long enough will get screwed over. The list of those who worked for him and are now on his black list is long and will get longer.

In real life, he is one of those people that in life you should avoid at all costs and stay away from as far as you can.

[changegonnacome]

8 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

In real life, he is one of those people that in life you should avoid at all costs and stay away from as far as you can.

 

In real life - if anyone one of his supporters or those with a benign view of him found him as the CEO of their largest stock holding they would sell out in an instant....he's clearly a scoundrel & an incompetent....yet given the bipartisan nature of US politics and the binary choice we find ourselves with at election time, people hold their nose and vote for him (many times chiefly in opposition to his opponent or opponents party (DNC/Hillary/biden/harris)...but then something miraculous happens......in doing so they somehow 'own' the decision and then I guess via the endowment effect they get behind his idiocy and spend the next four years defending his idiocy as if he was an extension of them somehow. Very strange behaviour......Trump was a terrible candidate and Harris a god awful one.

[cubsfan]

You poor guys. Can't do a damn thing to stop the continued ascendance of Trump - so keep bitching and kidding yourself while history is made.

 

You'll get him one of these days guys!

[Sloanes Teddy]

15 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

You poor guys. Can't do a damn thing to stop the continued ascendance of Trump - so keep bitching and kidding yourself while history is made.

 

You'll get him one of these days guys!

There is nothing to get. He's an Id in a meatsack.

[LC]

On 5/28/2026 at 8:26 AM, cubsfan said:

Yeah, nothing like taking your rape claim from an episode of "Law and Order" - and not being able to remember what year it happened.

 

Man it must suck for MAGA, having to constantly defend a rapist and keep telling themselves it never happened. Remember: it's your eyes that are lying to you all, not the dear leader!

 

MAGA is gonna need some collective therapy after getting out of this abusive relationship. Too bad daddy trump gutted medicare/medicaid and they don't have enough money to pay for it out of pocket anyways. Might be a good time to buy booze stocks.

[cubsfan]

39 minutes ago, LC said:

 

Man it must suck for MAGA, having to constantly defend a rapist and keep telling themselves it never happened. Remember: it's your eyes that are lying to you all, not the dear leader!

 

MAGA is gonna need some collective therapy after getting out of this abusive relationship. Too bad daddy trump gutted medicare/medicaid and they don't have enough money to pay for it out of pocket anyways. Might be a good time to buy booze stocks.

 

No it's actually hilarious.  For 10+ years now the lefty lunatics continue to predict Trump's demise.

 

You will get him one of these days - keep trying!

[LC]

You're right - he's a cockroach, just the way his parents hatched him  

[LC]

On 5/29/2026 at 1:21 PM, cubsfan said:

It's very rare, and that's why your cowards like Obama, Biden and Europe just showered Iran with money and hoped the regime would not fuck them - which is exactly what Iran did.

 

Obama didn't shower Iran with money - he released Iran's sanctioned funds in exchange for nuclear limitations - funds the US military used for 37 years.

 

And that's exactly what Trump is doing...oh and Obama got a good deal - a 30 year t-bill in 1979 yielded ~10%, he paid 4% to Iran. Nice! 

 

I wish we could securitize the benny hill music royalty payments whenever Trump and his MAGA cronies convince you guys of his shtick....that might shore up those SOH toll payments! Maybe even that rumored 300B Iran fund?

 

Oh and btw, Iran only has ~120B in sanctioned funds globally, where is the rest coming from? Wait, is that Baron and Jared I see walking in? Quick- lock the petty cash drawer!

[Sloanes Teddy]

9 minutes ago, LC said:

 

Obama didn't shower Iran with money - he released Iran's sanctioned funds in exchange for nuclear limitations - funds the US military used for 37 years.

 

And that's exactly what Trump is doing...oh and Obama got a good deal - a 30 year t-bill in 1979 yielded ~10%, he paid 4% to Iran. Nice! 

 

I wish we could securitize the benny hill music royalty payments whenever Trump and his MAGA cronies convince you guys of his shtick....that might shore up those SOH toll payments! Maybe even that rumored 300B Iran fund?

 

Oh and btw, Iran only has ~120B in sanctioned funds globally, where is the rest coming from? Wait, is that Baron and Jared I see walking in? Quick- lock the petty cash drawer!

Trump is as complex as my six year old nephew. And not as well read:)

[Maverick47]

On 5/29/2026 at 7:31 AM, changegonnacome said:

it becomes clearer to him on every trip to Walter Reed how few days on earth he has left and how fewer still of those days overlap with being President.

I’m not all that convinced that Trump is getting the straight scoop about his medical condition from his doctors.  What do you bet they treat him the same way his cabinet secretaries do, with one out of every six sentences extolling how sharp he is, how muscular, how physically capable, etc?

 

How can his followers continue to believe he plays 3 dimensional chess with the rest of the world when he takes a dementia screening test for the fourth time and “aces it”, then tells everyone over and over again how hard it is, and how amazed his doctors are at his mental acuity?
 

I can guarantee you that Charlie Munger would have “aced” such a test at age 99, not 79, and also would not have mistaken it for an IQ test either.

 

How sheltered from reality do you have to be that even your own family members are afraid to tell you to stop boasting about taking a screening test for senility and conflating it publicly with a measure of intellectual prowess?

[73 Reds]

6 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

 

In real life - if anyone one of his supporters or those with a benign view of him found him as the CEO of their largest stock holding they would sell out in an instant....he's clearly a scoundrel & an incompetent....yet given the bipartisan nature of US politics and the binary choice we find ourselves with at election time, people hold their nose and vote for him (many times chiefly in opposition to his opponent or opponents party (DNC/Hillary/biden/harris)...but then something miraculous happens......in doing so they somehow 'own' the decision and then I guess via the endowment effect they get behind his idiocy and spend the next four years defending his idiocy as if he was an extension of them somehow. Very strange behaviour......Trump was a terrible candidate and Harris a god awful one.

At the end of the day all that matters to most voters is whether they are getting what they voted for.  Not sure why anyone cares about anything else.    

[SharperDingaan]

It would seem that the only way Orange Boy intends to leave, is in a box, via a blaze of glory.

 

Have to think that the payoff, via a straddle on his sudden departure, is getting closer. Such is life.

 

SD

 

[RichardGibbons]

14 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

At the end of the day all that matters to most voters is whether they are getting what they voted for.  Not sure why anyone cares about anything else.    

 

I can help you with that. It's because most people can care about multiple things at the same time.
 

Like, suppose that Trump gave you everything that you wanted when you voted for him. But, he also decided to torture your child to death over the course of a few days.

 

Though you might not agree, my position is that you're allowed to be annoyed with the torture, even though he did everything you wanted when you voted for him.

[changegonnacome]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-31/israel-expands-ground-operations-in-lebanon-deepening-incursion?srnd=homepage-americas

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Israel expanded its ground assault in Lebanon with its broadest incursion into the country in a quarter-century

 

 

 

 

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“I have instructed the IDF to expand the incursion in Lebanon. Our forces have crossed the Litani River and took dominant terrain,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement citing the capture of the Beaufort ridge.

 

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Earlier on Sunday, Israel Katz, the Israeli defense minister, said the IDF had planted an Israeli flag on the historic Beaufort castle near Nabatieh and that the expansion amounted to “a permanent presence” in the region.

 

Israel ramping up in Lebanon today....Litani River crossed.....Israeli flags getting planted atop Beaufort castle..."permanent presense" talk........Trump's MOU edit requests must be light and deliverable and an MOU signing is incoming next week......thank you Bibi/IDF for confirming!

 

Edited Sunday at 06:23 PM by changegonnacome

[LC]

1 hour ago, RichardGibbons said:

Like, suppose that Trump gave you everything that you wanted when you voted for him. But, he also decided to torture your child to death over the course of a few days.

 

At least he's skipping the torture part and going straight to getting your kids killed:

 

Trump Signed An Executive Order Directing The CDC To Cut Recommended Childhood Vaccines From 17 To 11. Moving Flu, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, RSV, And Some Meningitis Shots To 'High-Risk Only,' After A Previous Attempt Was Blocked In Court

[Maverick47]

On 5/30/2026 at 8:29 AM, changegonnacome said:

Surviving a beating isn't a victory. Totally agree. But a vastly stronger party setting out via military action to overthrow a regime or at a minimum to impose their will at the negotiating table against a vastly weaker party and ultimately failing to do so is a not a victory for them either, it is at a minimum slightly embarrassing to not be able to get your way against such a weakling. Right?

 

It matters, I'd posit, because it diminishes your standing in the international jungle. At a minimum - your other enemies and 'allies', all things being equal, are a little less fearful of you moving forward. You were an 800ilb gorilla, maybe now folks are thinking you're probably more like a 750ilb gorilla! See the nuclear offer on the table pre-Epic Fury vs. Post Epic Fury has not materially changed (one can argue it's gotten worse). The stronger party failed at their top level goal (regime change) and even failed at their low level aim which was to impose their will and achieve incrementalism in the nuclear negotiations - and this despite all the exercising of force and the asymmetry in size, strength, wealth and allies. Not a situation which is reputation and fear enhancing for those looking on?

 

I think your analogy breaks down because international security competitions are not like UFC cage matches that ends after round 5 and 25 minutes and the winner is whoever landed more punches. The US clearly did. International security competitions are more like UFC cage matches that have an infinite number of rounds, 220 fighters and go on forever. The game is to be constantly improving your RELATIVE strength in the system. You are 'winning' in the international system when your relative strength is improving. You are losing when your relative strength is shrinking.

 

This Iran conflict, if it we're to end here with an MOU on Geneva-esque terms i.e. nothing incremental was achieved via Epic Fury, would be a diminishing/shrinking relative power event for the US. It setout to affect regime change and failed, it set out to improve the terms of a nuclear negotiation and failed - chiefly because the weaker party turned out to have more & better cards to play than was originally envisaged. Conversely Epic Fury has revealed an Iranian regime that is more resilient than envisaged with more strategic options (SOH blockade & regional annihilation) than many had given them credit for. In this respect Iran's relative perceived power has been enhanced via this conflict. It is not a good day in the Dept of War when you diminish your perceived relative power while enhancing the relative perceived power of someone like Iran. It's subtle nuanced point missed in all the frankly retarded who won, who lost the Iran-US cage match bi-partisan rhetoric on MSDNC and Fox news!

Well put, @changegonnacome!

 

For a narcissist, the “game” likely ends when he does.  Not as much concern about future generations.

 

For most other folks, there is a long game that continues after we ourselves shuffle off this mortal coil, and you have aptly outlined the likely long term effects associated with more immediate actions.  Well worth contemplating.

[RichardGibbons]

1 hour ago, LC said:

 

At least he's skipping the torture part and going straight to getting your kids killed:

 

Trump Signed An Executive Order Directing The CDC To Cut Recommended Childhood Vaccines From 17 To 11. Moving Flu, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, RSV, And Some Meningitis Shots To 'High-Risk Only,' After A Previous Attempt Was Blocked In Court

 

Yeah, but this is where Cubs, Reds, and Greg are proven right yet again. The damn liberals won't give Trump any credit at all for not torturing them before getting them killed. The liberals always skip over the good stuff like the lack of torture and just focus on the death stuff to try to make Trump look bad.

 

Really, we should all be celebrating the lack of torture.

[Blake Hampton]

Studies show that corruption has an extremely strong positive correlation with national decline.

The corruption I see within government today is breathtaking.

[73 Reds]

6 hours ago, RichardGibbons said:

 

I can help you with that. It's because most people can care about multiple things at the same time.
 

Like, suppose that Trump gave you everything that you wanted when you voted for him. But, he also decided to torture your child to death over the course of a few days.

 

Though you might not agree, my position is that you're allowed to be annoyed with the torture, even though he did everything you wanted when you voted for him.

He is an elected official with a job to do.  If you go to a doctor, lawyer, accountant, or any other professional or business providing a service, do you dissect their personal histories, beliefs and what they have to say about any and every particular issue?  Or do you expect them to perform a service and ignore everything else?  Most voters opt for the latter while being able to differentiate between politics and nonsense.  

[Sloanes Teddy]

2 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

He is an elected official with a job to do.  If you go to a doctor, lawyer, accountant, or any other professional or business providing a service, do you dissect their personal histories, beliefs and what they have to say about any and every particular issue?  Or do you expect them to perform a service and ignore everything else?  Most voters opt for the latter while being able to differentiate between politics 

I know that my dentist has never unilaterally bombed anyone. Not sure about my accountant.

[Gregmal]

Well, the infatuation is in so many ways incredible. Me? I dont often vote; but I care and 3 things, law and order, taxes and small government. So many of these other wankers cant tell you what they stand for other not "not Trump", get repeatedly hung up on new tabloid fodder...basically at the mercy of MSM, get all emotionally out of whack over shit they have no control over, and then apparently vote for candidates and policies that make zero sense because of it all. And yet, America still stands tall.

 

Life is great as @dealraker says. 

[RichardGibbons]

3 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

He is an elected official with a job to do.  If you go to a doctor, lawyer, accountant, or any other professional or business providing a service, do you dissect their personal histories, beliefs and what they have to say about any and every particular issue?  Or do you expect them to perform a service and ignore everything else?  Most voters opt for the latter while being able to differentiate between politics and nonsense.  

 

I completely get where you're coming from. That's why we should be grateful that Trump isn't torturing our kids right now.  And we should be equally happy that our doctors aren't torturing our kids, because whether they torture people is completely orthogonal to their job as a doctor.

 

If you take your kid in there with a broken arm, and they come out flayed but with a cast on that arm, then everything's good--you took them in for the arm, and the doctor set it perfectly. Nothing to complain about because they did their job. The flaying thing is just their hobby, so it shouldn't impact your satisfaction with them as a doctor.

[73 Reds]

10 hours ago, Sloanes Teddy said:

I know that my dentist has never unilaterally bombed anyone. Not sure about my accountant.

LOL, you've never had a root canal!