Parsad Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Libs said: No, the stereotype perpetuated here is of left-wingers unwilling to admit their side has a violence problem. It's gotten scary frankly. I have 5 good friends, quite normal liberals, who straight up say they want Trump dead. No one I know wished that on Obama, Biden, etc. I've heard people in Canada say they wanted Justin Trudeau dead. Only a moron would assume that a lot of people didn't want Obama dead...and it had nothing to do with policy! They just couldn't come out and say it because they would be ostracized or cancelled. There is a reason Michelle Obama and Barack Obama were portrayed as chimpanzees...for the same reason it's easier to say "wipe out" Iranians than Israeli's...one group is perceived as less than human than the other. The exact same reason why Africa and Haiti are "shitholes" according to the President of the United States! Cheers!
Sweet Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Parsad said: I've heard people in Canada say they wanted Justin Trudeau dead. Only a moron would assume that a lot of people didn't want Obama dead...and it had nothing to do with policy! They just couldn't come out and say it because they would be ostracized or cancelled. There is a reason Michelle Obama and Barack Obama were portrayed as chimpanzees...for the same reason it's easier to say "wipe out" Iranians than Israeli's...one group is perceived as less than human than the other. The exact same reason why Africa and Haiti are "shitholes" according to the President of the United States! Cheers! There is a massive difference between the numbers willing to admit to wanting Trump dead vs Obama. His story about the friends circle was making that points. He never said nobody wanted Obama murder, he’s saying there is a scale issue. And your response sort of proves his point too, about people on the left unwilling to admit the violence problem.
ourkid8 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Gregmal said: You know whom stands in the way though? The teachers unions. Someone is blaming teachers’ unions for blocking improvements in math scores. Fair enough — unions often protect the status quo and resist meaningful reforms. But let’s be honest: even if we “win” that fight, we’re still stuck fighting the wrong war. The real problem is a broken government that has lost the ability (or willingness) to focus on what actually matters: improving the lives of the people it’s supposed to serve. Imagine — just imagine — if our government actually prioritized results over politics, outcomes over interests, and competence over ideology. That’s what so many hoped the MAGA movement would deliver: a relentless focus on fixing real problems instead of managing endless bureaucratic trench warfare. Until government reorients itself around serving the public rather than perpetuating its own dysfunction, we’ll keep winning battles while losing the country.
Gregmal Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: Someone is blaming teachers’ unions for blocking improvements in math scores. Fair enough — unions often protect the status quo and resist meaningful reforms. But let’s be honest: even if we “win” that fight, we’re still stuck fighting the wrong war. The real problem is a broken government that has lost the ability (or willingness) to focus on what actually matters: improving the lives of the people it’s supposed to serve. Imagine — just imagine — if our government actually prioritized results over politics, outcomes over interests, and competence over ideology. That’s what so many hoped the MAGA movement would deliver: a relentless focus on fixing real problems instead of managing endless bureaucratic trench warfare. Until government reorients itself around serving the public rather than perpetuating its own dysfunction, we’ll keep winning battles while losing the country. Totally agree. I’ll also add that this is what’s so appalling and head scratching about people whom want to vote for candidates that are blatantly in favor of expanding this government. Edited April 26 by Gregmal
cubsfan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Parsad said: I've heard people in Canada say they wanted Justin Trudeau dead. Only a moron would assume that a lot of people didn't want Obama dead...and it had nothing to do with policy! They just couldn't come out and say it because they would be ostracized or cancelled. There is a reason Michelle Obama and Barack Obama were portrayed as chimpanzees...for the same reason it's easier to say "wipe out" Iranians than Israeli's...one group is perceived as less than human than the other. The exact same reason why Africa and Haiti are "shitholes" according to the President of the United States! Cheers! That's very interesting. I've never heard of anyone saying they want Obama dead. He was just a failure, that's all, but dead - never.
SharperDingaan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) Even those countries with mandatory military service, don't permit the use of guns as the US does. It's the US choice, it comes with consequences, and the resultant violence is an accepted part of living in the US. We are all free to live elsewhere .... and many do. Political affiliation is labelling; to sell an agenda, execute an AB market test, deflect questioning, etc. Notable .. that even the "shooter" thought security incompetent (only focused on new vs 'existing' entrants) ... and that a state sponsored professional hit could well have been successful .... oops It should not be surprising that a great many Americans would prefer Trump dead .... it's just deemed 'unpatriotic' to hear it. Dependant upon how this incident is 'spun', going forward ... there may well be a lot more. A strong enough surge, may even change the Orange Boy calibration. A great many Germans wanted Hitler dead during WW II. A great many citizens also wanted Iraq's Hussein, and Iran's Khomeini dead. As well as a large portion of the UK population that wanted the Queen dead ..... shortly after the death of Diana. It is routine; and when possible, liabilities get removed. Trump goes; the war ends, the troops come home, gas prices come down, and maybe the Republicans even win the congress again. The man does not have to be walking. SD Edited April 26 by SharperDingaan
cubsfan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 22 minutes ago, SharperDingaan said: Even those countries with mandatory military service, don't permit the use of guns as the US does. It's the US choice, it comes with consequences, and the resultant violence is an accepted part of living in the US. We are all free to live elsewhere .... and many do. Political affiliation is labelling; to sell an agenda, execute an AB market test, deflect questioning, etc. Notable .. that even the "shooter" thought security incompetent (only focused on new vs 'existing' entrants) ... and that a state sponsored professional hit could well have been successful .... oops It should not be surprising that a great many Americans would prefer Trump dead .... it's just deemed 'unpatriotic' to hear it. Dependant upon how this incident is 'spun', going forward ... there may well be a lot more. A strong enough surge, may even change the Orange Boy calibration. A great many Germans wanted Hitler dead during WW II. A great many citizens also wanted Iraq's Hussein, and Iran's Khomeini dead. As well as a large portion of the UK population that wanted the Queen dead ..... shortly after the death of Diana. It is routine; and when possible, liabilities get removed. Trump goes; the war ends, the troops come home, gas prices come down, and maybe the Republicans even win the congress again. The man does not have to be walking. SD Now THAT is a deranged opinion. Political violence is perfectly ok.
LC Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 hours ago, Libs said: left-wingers unwilling to admit their side has a violence problem The conservative right literally starts a war and the left has a violence problem? Oy vey
LC Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 hours ago, dealraker said: Mom to child: "Son, the reason we don't spend our entire lives telling low grade worthless lies is because we want others to believe us when there is an assassination attempt." OK, this one got me
Parsad Posted April 27 Posted April 27 5 hours ago, Sweet said: There is a massive difference between the numbers willing to admit to wanting Trump dead vs Obama. His story about the friends circle was making that points. He never said nobody wanted Obama murder, he’s saying there is a scale issue. And your response sort of proves his point too, about people on the left unwilling to admit the violence problem. Which violence problem are you talking about...Presidential assassination attempts (transparent and non-disclosed), which happen 1-5 times every presidential term on average, or mass shootings which happen once every two days in the United States? The point being made is just so fucked up by you and others in terms of ACTUAL violence! No one approves of presidential assassinations except the President and Bibi who just took out an entire administration in Iran...but don't let that strike any sort of chord or irony with you! It's only the liberal left that doesn't admit any sort of violence problem! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted April 27 Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, Parsad said: Which violence problem are you talking about...Presidential assassination attempts (transparent and non-disclosed), which happen 1-5 times every presidential term on average, or mass shootings which happen once every two days in the United States? The point being made is just so fucked up by you and others in terms of ACTUAL violence! No one approves of presidential assassinations except the President and Bibi who just took out an entire administration in Iran...but don't let that strike any sort of chord or irony with you! It's only the liberal left that doesn't admit any sort of violence problem! Cheers! Really???? Obama served 8 years - zero attempts Biden served 4 years - zero attempts Clinton served 8 years - zero attempts Who are you kidding..
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 4 minutes ago, Parsad said: Which violence problem are you talking about...Presidential assassination attempts (transparent and non-disclosed), which happen 1-5 times every presidential term on average, or mass shootings which happen once every two days in the United States? The point being made is just so fucked up by you and others in terms of ACTUAL violence! No one approves of presidential assassinations except the President and Bibi who just took out an entire administration in Iran...but don't let that strike any sort of chord or irony with you! It's only the liberal left that doesn't admit any sort of violence problem! Cheers! Maybe I’m thinking of different stuff than yall, but the issue as it relates to this, are random piss-ons, nobodies, etc, getting all drunk on ideology and media manufactured rhetoric, and then going off and getting violent towards folks whom disagree with them. Theres more than a pattern with these leftist turdballs.
dwy000 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Maybe I’m thinking of different stuff than yall, but the issue as it relates to this, are random piss-ons, nobodies, etc, getting all drunk on ideology and media manufactured rhetoric, and then going off and getting violent towards folks whom disagree with them. Theres more than a pattern with these leftist turdballs. Are you referring to Jan 6th? Don't think those were leftists.
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 12 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Really???? Obama served 8 years - zero attempts Biden served 4 years - zero attempts Clinton served 8 years - zero attempts Who are you kidding.. Yea I mean come on lol. Just in the past 3 years we have had some nerd with a problem getting laid opening fire at the Pa rally. Then some tweaked out meth head hiding out in the bushes at Maralago. Then some weirdo who dressed like a bunny while taking it up the ass shooting up Kirk. And now some arrogant wokio whom, amusingly happened to be an Eric Swalwell supporter going in guns blazing…all literally citing the same dumb, brainwashed, “Trump threat to democracy” crap…no problem whatsoever ever. Edited April 27 by Gregmal
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Are you referring to Jan 6th? Don't think those were leftists. Whew! Glad to see you aren’t Cole Allen. Can’t say the thought didn’t cross my mind. But anyway, no, Jan 6 was just the crescendo to what your kind coined the “peaceful protests” during the summer of love in 2020…
dwy000 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Whew! Glad to see you aren’t Cole Allen. Can’t say the thought didn’t cross my mind. But anyway, no, Jan 6 was just the crescendo to what your kind coined the “peaceful protests” during the summer of love in 2020… Are you sure? Because it sure looked like random piss-ons, nobodies, etc, getting all drunk on ideology and media manufactured rhetoric, and then going off and getting violent towards folks whom disagree with them. I guess it's just what side of the cult youre on as to view. After all its not like you to generalize and name call. Edited April 27 by dwy000
LC Posted April 27 Posted April 27 21 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Really???? Obama served 8 years - zero attempts Biden served 4 years - zero attempts Clinton served 8 years - zero attempts Who are you kidding.. Incredible what can happen when you don't employ alcoholics as your FBI Director and Secretary of War
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, LC said: Incredible what can happen when you don't employ alcoholics as your FBI Director and Secretary of War Weren’t the methhead and grungy incel kid, pre alcoholics?
LC Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Those first-term drunks could at least see straight! Although I'm sure at least Bill's crew weren't strangers to the sauce, either
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LC said: Those first-term drunks could at least see straight! Although I'm sure at least Bill's crew weren't strangers to the sauce, either What’s funny is we never heard any of this outrage when the guys in the previous cabinet were stealing airport bags while dressed in drag or idk, blowing lines in the White House while posting videos of the Senate Hearing room being converted to a fudge packing factory… Edited April 27 by Gregmal
LC Posted April 27 Posted April 27 12 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Senate Hearing room being converted to a fudge packing factory Lindsey Graham knew who to pay to keep quiet
Red Lion Posted April 27 Posted April 27 43 minutes ago, LC said: Incredible what can happen when you don't employ alcoholics as your FBI Director and Secretary of War Winston Churchill sounded like a pretty serious alcoholic. Not that I’m singing the praises of Patel or Hegseth, but don’t paint all the alchies with the same brush
Gregmal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 23 minutes ago, Red Lion said: Winston Churchill sounded like a pretty serious alcoholic. Not that I’m singing the praises of Patel or Hegseth, but don’t paint all the alchies with the same brush There’s also the odd conundrum related to the fact that the wokies lecture us about not making fun of dudes whom cut their dicks off cuz they think they’re chicks, but then they openly make light of alcoholism which is probably one of the most serious mental illnesses out there. The party and their puppets are shot.
Marco Van Basten Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Hasan Piker who Democrats like to campaign with, openly calls for murdering capitalists. I don't recall Republicans campaigning with people who called for murdering opponents. By the way, Democrats have a history of political violence - it was a Democrat who shot up a baseball game that Congressional Republicans were playing.
dwy000 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 18 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: Hasan Piker who Democrats like to campaign with, openly calls for murdering capitalists. I don't recall Republicans campaigning with people who called for murdering opponents. By the way, Democrats have a history of political violence - it was a Democrat who shot up a baseball game that Congressional Republicans were playing. Given it's the other side that seems to usually be the ones shooting up schools and public events maybe this isn't the hill to die on.
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