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[Parsad]

4 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Well, yes...everybody list their perfect world scenarios while we're at it! 

 

Now, how about we list what reality gives us? Then we marvel at how the primary systems work. And how all the wokies were besties with someone like Swallwell lmfao! Pretty sure fruitcake Jimmy Kimmell has a few selfies with the serial rapist. 

 

Shut up Greg!  Kimmel has no photos with Trump!    Cheers!

[Parsad]

4 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Well, yes...everybody list their perfect world scenarios while we're at it! 

 

Now, how about we list what reality gives us? 

 

Actually Greg, I would say every President over the last 50 years has hit that list I gave.  Sure, some may have straddled the line or were short one characteristic or two, but for the most part, they all respected the office.

 

But this guy...Trump...he's short on almost every one of those objectives/ideals.  Again, like Munger said, he's not wrong on everything.  But he's a fucking lying ass unleashed on the world because of some Americans just saying:

 

"Fuck it, we're going to vote for the jackass just because...just because we are tired of being the scapegoat for the "woke" agenda and we're tired of apologizing for what we have, what we want and what we deserve.  So fuck you world...here's our boy, and he's going to make your life a living hell!  If he does a tiny fraction of what he says, great!  And if he makes your life a hell and creates chaos...that's icing on the cake!"

 

Cheers!

[Mephistopheles]

Unfathomable that the man who has ended 8 wars is struggling to end this one

[Mephistopheles]

5 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

 

 

"Fuck it, we're going to vote for the jackass just because...just because we are tired of being the scapegoat for the "woke" agenda and we're tired of apologizing for what we have, what we want and what we deserve.  So fuck you world...here's our boy, and he's going to make your life a living hell!  If he does a tiny fraction of what he says, great!  And if he makes your life a hell and creates chaos...that's icing on the cake!"

 

Cheers!

It’s the testosterone. Wokeism has a feminine quality to it so people avoid it even if it means installing an authoritarian “strong man”.

 

 

Edited April 17 by Mephistopheles

[Parsad]

2 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

I do think we will essentially create intelligence that will replace us. If you think about it, it’s inevitable. The human brain is fairly limited and at some point, we are going to create something better or something we create will evolve into something better. The future of mankind isn’t man.

 

Yup.  I'm 100% convinced humanity's legacy will be the creation of a civilization of super AI robots and our own inevitable demise!  Cheers!

[John Hjorth]

11 hours ago, RichardGibbons said:

Yep, this is the list. The main issue MAGA seems to miss is that even if you get what you want in the short term, you'll lose long term if in doing so you lose the bedrock principles.

 

This. It's the glue keeping a democratic nation from falling apart.

 

9 hours ago, cwericb said:

Good Lord. "Honesty and stability"? How do you tell when the president is lying? Whenever he opens his mouth.  In the past, if a president was caught in a lie, it was a major event.  Now the president lies daily/hourly. 

 

"Stability"? He has just started a war with no end plan, invaded another country, threatened to invade allies, slapped tariffs against the rest of the world, has masked thugs roaming the cities streets, and No Kings demonstrations involving millions throughout the country, he fights and insults the Supreme Court, Powell, and even the Pope. This is stability?

 

You say "Friends and allies support each other and are not a drag on one another"

 

You have to be kidding!!  Trump and his administration has attacked, threatened, taxed, and insulted nearly every single ally it has. Then US declares a war with apparently no plan, no consultation with its allies and when it gets in over its head it throws a tantrum like a spoiled child when those same countries reminds the US that they wanted nothing to do with his war. And then to bring up the old "WMD" crap, we can't help remember the WMD's that Iraq didn't have, The WMD's that the President assured us were already "obliterated", etc.

 

+1

[73 Reds]

8 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Trump got elected because Biden was entering senility and Kamala was not Obama!  Almost anyone else probably would have given the Democrats a fighting chance, but nope...they let Biden go far to long, so that there was no time to do a real search/vote for Democratic leader/presidential candidate.   What did Kamala do during her tenure as Vice-President?  She did less than JD Vance has so far in one year!  Cheers!

Nah, Trump got elected because the Democrats lost their way.   Not one of the present batch would have defeated Trump.

[73 Reds]

10 hours ago, cwericb said:

 

Good Lord. "Honesty and stability"? How do you tell when the president is lying? Whenever he opens his mouth.  In the past, if a president was caught in a lie, it was a major event.  Now the president lies daily/hourly. 

 

"Stability"? He has just started a war with no end plan, invaded another country, threatened to invade allies, slapped tariffs against the rest of the world, has masked thugs roaming the cities streets, and No Kings demonstrations involving millions throughout the country, he fights and insults the Supreme Court, Powell, and even the Pope. This is stability?

 

You say "Friends and allies support each other and are not a drag on one another"

 

You have to be kidding!!  Trump and his administration has attacked, threatened, taxed, and insulted nearly every single ally it has. Then US declares a war with apparently no plan, no consultation with its allies and when it gets in over its head it throws a tantrum like a spoiled child when those same countries reminds the US that they wanted nothing to do with his war. And then to bring up the old "WMD" crap, we can't help remember the WMD's that Iraq didn't have, The WMD's that the President assured us were already "obliterated", etc.

 

 

 

 

Just repeating the same old nonsense?  Trump is more open than all prior politicians combined.  What you see is what you get.  You mistake form over substance.  Those of us who voted for Trump understand the form very well.  It makes no difference whether we like it.  Substance is what matters.  Meaning policies.  I would vote for Trump 100 times over before supporting any current Democrat contender and their destructive policies.  Every policy I support is being furthered by this administration.  Learn a little history.  Trump did not start any wars but he is successfully ending some.   The World is going to be much better off whether you like it or not.   

[73 Reds]

10 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

You got to be joking about honesty and stability.

If your definition of honesty and stability is prior-day Iran then I'm afraid the joke is on you.

[John Hjorth]

I saw a post from you here, Charlie [ @dealraker ], that you chose to delete again. It's OK for and with me.

 

You also posted something a short time ago in this topic about that it's  impossible to make any judgements about how the US economy and the World economy will be affected by all this havoc here, there and everywhere.

 

For the first time in a long period I actually have a bit cash available for buying stocks, and the appetite just isen't really there, so I'm taking it a bit easy right now.

[Gregmal]

8 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Actually Greg, I would say every President over the last 50 years has hit that list I gave.  Sure, some may have straddled the line or were short one characteristic or two, but for the most part, they all respected the office.

 

But this guy...Trump...he's short on almost every one of those objectives/ideals.  Again, like Munger said, he's not wrong on everything.  But he's a fucking lying ass unleashed on the world because of some Americans just saying:

 

"Fuck it, we're going to vote for the jackass just because...just because we are tired of being the scapegoat for the "woke" agenda and we're tired of apologizing for what we have, what we want and what we deserve.  So fuck you world...here's our boy, and he's going to make your life a living hell!  If he does a tiny fraction of what he says, great!  And if he makes your life a hell and creates chaos...that's icing on the cake!"

 

Cheers!

Nah. It's just because you dont see it, or it's hidden better. The definition of opaque. I mean really, go check out Eric Swalwells buddy list, as far as donors and friends went....Trump is and always had been pretty easy to size up, as far as what he is.

 

Most recently, Kamala was a hideous Frankenstein mishmash of everything detestable about politics. Biden was probably a bit more authentic back in his 80s/90s heyday, but a scrambled egg controlled by shadow figures. Obama term 1 I'd agree, but towards the end of term one he saw that he was clearly outmatched by Romney(as a candidate) and decided to take the shuck and jive route with the identity politics stuff and term 2 was purely a "me first" president. Bush was a raging trust fund deuche who was also basically controlled by shadow groups. And Clinton? LMFAO....

 

At this point, it's why I dont really make an effort to vote or support any of them. I care about the three things Ive mentioned before, law and order, taxes, and keeping government out of peoples lives. On that front, Trump has undoubtedly been a success with parts 1 and 2, and on three, its at worst too early to conclude but again knowing what Kamala and friends stood for, I'd say we're still better off, especially considering he's delivered on 1 and 2.

Edited April 17 by Gregmal

[Hektor]

8 hours ago, Mephistopheles said:

Unfathomable that the man who has ended 8 wars is struggling to end this one

He ended the 9th one yesterday. It was all over the news 

[ourkid8]

After being called an antisemite by @73 Reds I looked up the official IHRA Working Definition of Antisemitism (International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, adopted by many governments including the US, Canada, and UK):

 

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

 

I asked an LLM(unbias)to review all my posts from the last 6 weeks against this definition and its examples provided. Here’s the summary:

 

My posts do not meet the IHRA criteria for antisemitism:

• No calls for harming Jews.
• No stereotypes about Jewish power, media control, or collective Jewish responsibility.
• No Holocaust denial or comparing Israeli policy to the Nazis.
• No denial of Jewish self-determination (I criticize specific Israeli government policies and actions).
• Use of “Z******” was as a political label for certain policies or supporters — not as a substitute for “Jew.”

The IHRA itself states clearly:

“Criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”
 

I strongly criticize Israeli actions in Gaza (as I do with other governments in conflicts), support Iran’s sovereignty, and oppose escalation and fully stand for any country being opressed. These are political views, not hatred of Jews.

 

If my positions are wrong, debate the facts and policies. Labeling policy criticism as “antisemitism” without evidence distorts the actual definition.

Open to honest discussion. @73 Reds

Edited April 17 by ourkid8

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

After being called an antisemite by @73 Reds I looked up the official IHRA Working Definition of Antisemitism (International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, adopted by many governments including the US, Canada, and UK):

 

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

 

I asked an LLM(unbias)to review all my posts from the last 6 weeks against this definition and its examples provided. Here’s the summary:

 

My posts do not meet the IHRA criteria for antisemitism:

• No calls for harming Jews.
• No stereotypes about Jewish power, media control, or collective Jewish responsibility.
• No Holocaust denial or comparing Israeli policy to the Nazis.
• No denial of Jewish self-determination (I criticize specific Israeli government policies and actions).
• Use of “Z******” was as a political label for certain policies or supporters — not as a substitute for “Jew.”

The IHRA itself states clearly:

“Criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”
 

I strongly criticize Israeli actions in Gaza (as I do with other governments in conflicts), support Iran’s sovereignty, and oppose escalation and fully stand for any country being opressed. These are political views, not hatred of Jews.

 

If my positions are wrong, debate the facts and policies. Labeling policy criticism as “antisemitism” without evidence distorts the actual definition.

Open to honest discussion. @73 Reds

There is no reason to debate "Death to Israel".  Keep digging the hole you so very much enjoy occupying.

[Castanza]

32 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Nah. It's just because you dont see it, or it's hidden better. The definition of opaque. I mean really, go check out Eric Swalwells buddy list, as far as donors and friends went....Trump is and always had been pretty easy to size up, as far as what he is.

 

Most recently, Kamala was a hideous Frankenstein mishmash of everything detestable about politics. Biden was probably a bit more authentic back in his 80s/90s heyday, but a scrambled egg controlled by shadow figures. Obama term 1 I'd agree, but towards the end of term one he saw that he was clearly outmatched by Romney(as a candidate) and decided to take the shuck and jive route with the identity politics stuff and term 2 was purely a "me first" president. Bush was a raging trust fund deuche who was also basically controlled by shadow groups. And Clinton? LMFAO....

 

At this point, it's why I dont really make an effort to vote or support any of them. I care about the three things Ive mentioned before, law and order, taxes, and keeping government out of peoples lives. On that front, Trump has undoubtedly been a success with parts 1 and 2, and on three, its at worst too early to conclude but again knowing what Kamala and friends stood for, I'd say we're still better off, especially considering he's delivered on 1 and 2.

 

Dems can't ever accept that Trump is just a life long grifter from THEIR SIDE OF THE AISLE. They want to label him with one of the groups "on the right" they already hate. They're like used car salesmen trying to offload the lemon. End of the day Trump is for Trump and will say, and do just about anything that he feels is an advantage to him. They also want to blame the election on MAGA even though it only makes up like 30% of the voter base for Trump....fact is the political field in the US has been a shit show for over a decade now and people just want someone to blame. Go back an look at Kamala's platform....Makes a whole lot of sense to run on higher taxes, land right for for poor and indigenous people, and LGBTQ bathrooms while bringing ZERO productive policies to the table that would resonate to the average voter. All while inflation was on everyone's mind lmao .....Her and Trump were slightly different on Ukraine and had similar platforms on Israel. Dems out here wondering why Trump (a prof grifter) was able to sway a bunch of swing votes...If you want to understand election outcomes you need to ignore the educated pin heads and look at what the average person is saying. 

 

Hind sight is 20/20 and some claim they "predicted this" yet very few people who voted for Trump support half the shit that has gone down since the election....

 

A lesson for America to field better candidates....Or we can just keep electing criminals, grifters, whores, and vegetables 

[ourkid8]

21 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

There is no reason to debate "Death to Israel".  Keep digging the hole you so very much enjoy occupying.

I never made  the “Death to Israel” comment.

I criticize Israeli government policies, not the existence of Israel. This falls under the IHRA’s clear statement that criticism of Israel similar to any other country is not antisemitic.

If you have evidence I said otherwise, post the quote.

I’ve also seen you make statements about Palestinians and Arabs that I view as genocidal in tone — which says more about your consistency in applying standards than anything else

[Parsad]

Sure looks like a deal is in the works!  Cheers!

[cubsfan]

6 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Sure looks like a deal is in the works!  Cheers!

 

Awesome!

[73 Reds]

23 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

I never made  the “Death to Israel” comment.

I criticize Israeli government policies, not the existence of Israel. This falls under the IHRA’s clear statement that criticism of Israel similar to any other country is not antisemitic.

If you have evidence I said otherwise, post the quote.

I’ve also seen you make statements about Palestinians and Arabs that I view as genocidal in tone — which says more about your consistency in applying standards than anything else

You are the worst kind of antisemite.  Most readily admit their hatred and are proud of it.  You hide behind circuitous arguments, all while supporting a terrorist, hateful regime.  You're not fooling anyone.

[cubsfan]

Hey !  What happened to the $200 Oil!  ROFL

[Parsad]

8 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

Hey !  What happened to the $200 Oil!  ROFL

 

Looks like they are getting billions that were seized (you guys criticized Obama), but they are giving up nuclear material (a win for Trump).  If it happens, this will be good for everyone!  Teflon Don gets another chip in his pocket and off his shoulder...while this is good for the Iranian people long-term and some peace in the Middle East.  Let's see what the final deal (if there is one) looks like. 

 

I think the deadline is Tuesday for the cease-fire, but that will probably be extended if they are making progress.  The "Strait of Iran" which Trump called it in a tweet is open for all traffic until at least Tuesday for now!  Cheers!

[John Hjorth]

Don't sell the fur untill the bear is shot. But let's hope for the best for humanity.

[WFF]

18 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Strait of Iran" which Trump called it in a tweet is open for all traffic until at least Tuesday for now! 

Provided they pay a toll to the US.  Trump says blockade still enforced. 

[dwy000]

2 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

Just repeating the same old nonsense?  Trump is more open than all prior politicians combined.  What you see is what you get.  You mistake form over substance.  Those of us who voted for Trump understand the form very well.  It makes no difference whether we like it.  Substance is what matters.  Meaning policies.  I would vote for Trump 100 times over before supporting any current Democrat contender and their destructive policies.  Every policy I support is being furthered by this administration.  Learn a little history.  Trump did not start any wars but he is successfully ending some.   The World is going to be much better off whether you like it or not.   

Nothing says "I'm in a cult" more than this post.  He's literally doing the opposite of almost everything he campaigned on. 

[ourkid8]

30 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Looks like they are getting billions that were seized (you guys criticized Obama), but they are giving up nuclear material (a win for Trump).  If it happens, this will be good for everyone!  Teflon Don gets another chip in his pocket and off his shoulder...while this is good for the Iranian people long-term and some peace in the Middle East.  Let's see what the final deal (if there is one) looks like. 

 

I think the deadline is Tuesday for the cease-fire, but that will probably be extended if they are making progress.  The "Strait of Iran" which Trump called it in a tweet is open for all traffic until at least Tuesday for now!  Cheers!

Strait of Iran has such a lovely ring to it. They are going to get significantly stronger post war - love it!