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[cubsfan]

54 minutes ago, LC said:

 

So let's go to Iran and have more Americans die for the Europe you can't stand? 

 

Or perhaps there is another reason...

 

Hmm...might need to put on America's thinking cap for this one...oh wait looks like it's in use

 

 

 

 

That's what I would expect when you've nothing serious to say.  Your hatred of Trump never ends.

[Maverick47]

3 hours ago, Viking said:

A consistent message I have said to my 3 kids for years now is if you life is not going the way you want it to, start by looking in the mirror - don’t start by looking to blame others. Most important, don’t develop a victim mindset. 

Excellent advice…both for children and countries!

[Gregmal]

18 minutes ago, Maverick47 said:

Excellent advice…both for children and countries!

Totally. Don’t like something? Either change it, or learn to live with it. 

[LC]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

That's what I would expect when you've nothing serious to say.  Your hatred of Trump never ends.

 

No hatred, just giving a little thought to his first 4 months:

He gets results, just not the best ones...and he spews collateral damage to do so.

Edited April 5 by LC

[ourkid8]

11 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

You should return to your hole.  And learn the consequence of "Death to America, Death to Israel".  It's not a slogan or an ideology that encourages longevity for its supporters.    

Professor Marandi explains it better then I could. 
 

 

Edited April 5 by ourkid8

[ourkid8]

9 hours ago, Viking said:

Iran currently controls the Straight of Hormuz. This gives the IRGC enormous political and economic power. In an exercise of their growing power, they appear to ready to 'allow' oil from Iraq to flow out of the Gulf.

 

Why would the IRGC do this? To expand their power/influence beyond Iran and into Iraq.

 

The war in the Persian Gulf is morphing. With each passing week, the power of the US is diminishing. And the power of Iran is growing. Iraq is perhaps the latest example.

 

There is a scenario where Iran emerges from the current conflict the dominant power in the Middle East. I am not sure this is what the US/Israeli's intended. (The chances of this outcome happening are growing with each passing week...)

 

The problem with wars like this is they often tend to go in unexpected directions. It appears the US/Israeli's grossly underestimated Iran. Especially the shift in Iran's strategy/tactics over the past 8 months (to more hard line). The US cemented Iran's shift to a hard line approach when they took out the senior leadership (who were the moderates) on day one of the way - that strike was, with hindsight, a gift to the hardliners in Iran - who are now fully in control.

 

The US got regime change in Iran all right... from moderates to hard liners. Yes, if the old Iran, run by moderates, did what they did... guess what a new Iran, run by hard liners, will be doing moving forward...

 

And what the hard-liners have learned over the past 5 weeks is their strategy (escalation - close the straight and inflict damage on the Arab  neighbours) is working fabulously well (all things considered). 

 

The result, is the US/Israeli's are dealing with a new paradigm in the middle east - an Iran that has enormous leverage that they are now willing to use for the first time ever. The is not the same Iran (IRGC) that existed 8 months ago. We are in uncharted territory. That has important implications for the global economy.

 

So the US has a choice... escalate and hope that they get lucky and the war flips back in their favour. Or continue to watch Iran's power grow greater with each passing week.

 

Of course, we are early days into this conflict (5 weeks). And things are very fluid - subject to change day to day and week to week. So it is impossible to know exactly how things will look in another year or so. But it is important to be open minded to the different potential outcomes.  

 

You are finally seeing what I said a lot earlier in the thread. The US/Israeli seriously underestimated the people, belief in religion and their resolve. NATO and US has exited Iraq and Iran will build a strong alliance with their neighborly Muslim brothers. - coming out a lot stronger!

 

An Iran with stronger direct bi-lateral trade alliances, closer allies with neighbouring countries, controlling the SoH, removal of sanctions and selling their oil for market value, GCC countries asking Iran for military protection, all in Yuan instead of US dollars - wow, I cannot wait! 
 

Unless something drastically changes Iran should emerge as a power in the Middle East. (They are not playing the short game) Israel better learn to play nice with their neighbours quickly  

 

 

 

Edited April 5 by ourkid8

[Viking]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

You are finally seeing what I said a lot earlier in the thread. The US/Israeli seriously underestimated the people, belief in religion and their resolve. NATO and US has exited Iraq and Iran will build a strong alliance with their neighborly Muslim brothers. - coming out a lot stronger!

 

An Iran with stronger direct bi-lateral trade alliances, closer allies with neighbouring countries, controlling the SoH, removal of sanctions and selling their oil for market value, GCC countries asking Iran for military protection, all in Yuan instead of US dollars - wow, I cannot wait! 
 

Unless something drastically changes Iran should emerge as a power in the Middle East. (They are not playing the short game) Israel better learn to play nice with their neighbours quickly  

 

 

 

@ourkid8, to be clear, Iran coming out of this war in a much stronger strategic position would be a catastrophe for the region and the world. My assessment of what is going on with the war is simply me calling balls and strikes as I see the pitches coming in (that ‘be rational’ thing). 

[John Hjorth]

9 hours ago, LC said:

I've been forgetting to take my daily dose of Trumphetamines, maybe that's why I'm confused:

 

So now the USA which is anti-free-loading-Europe and so in the case of Ukraine does not want to come to the aid of Europe in a foreign war against a nuclear power, is now apparently is now waging war on behalf of Europe to save Europe from a nuclear power in Iran? This is all too confusing let me find those little blue pills and donate another 100 shekels to MelaniaCoin. 

 

HaHa!  - Great start on my Easter Sunday! 

 

Hanging out in a bar somewhere with friends, or skiing, @LC? 

[John Hjorth]

11 hours ago, Viking said:

It’s like a person who kicks their best friend in the nuts. Then calls him out in front of everyone. And then - without talking to the friend first - walks into a bar and starts a bar fight. And then when it goes badly blames the whole mess on his friend. That is no way to run a country. 
 

You can’t make this stuff up. 

 

LoL! - At least it's a very efficient and effective way to get rid of friends! 

[John Hjorth]

15 hours ago, Viking said:

... Actions have consequences. Do stupid/destructive things - really bad shit happens. ...
 

... Here is what Charlie Munger had to say about developing a victim mindset (that Donald Trump is championing):

 

"Whenever you think that some situation or some person is ruining your life, [think that] it’s actually you who are ruining your life. It’s such a simple idea. Feeling like a victim is a perfectly disastrous way to go through life.

 

If you just take the attitude that, however bad it is in anyway, it’s always your fault and you just fix it as best you can – the so-called ‘iron prescription’ – I think that really works...

 

Well you can say that’s waggery, but I suggest that every time you find you’re drifting into self-pity, I don’t care what the cause, your child could be dying of cancer, self-pity is not going to improve the situation…

 

It’s a ridiculous way to behave, and when you avoid it you get a great advantage over everybody else, almost everybody else, because self-pity is a standard condition and yet you can train yourself out of it."

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A consistent message I have said to my 3 kids for years now is if you life is not going the way you want it to, start by looking in the mirror - don’t start by looking to blame others. Most important, don’t develop a victim mindset. 

 

11 hours ago, Maverick47 said:

Excellent advice…both for children and countries!

 

11 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Totally. Don’t like something? Either change it, or learn to live with it. 

 

My Dad always said to me when I was screwing up as a kid : 'John, Take the spoon in the other hand.' Sometimes combined with, adding a fatherly, wholehearted advice, some times in a tone expressing disappointment, some times he was angry, still saying the same, where I think he really meant : 'John, Grow up, or go grow a brain!'. [  ]

Edited April 5 by John Hjorth

[73 Reds]

8 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

Professor Marandi explains it better then I could. 
 

 

Wouldn't waste a single brain cell reading your propaganda.    The "people" of Iran will be better off when your regime is gone.  They can thank Israel and the USA later.

[73 Reds]

6 hours ago, Viking said:

@ourkid8, to be clear, Iran coming out of this war in a much stronger strategic position would be a catastrophe for the region and the world. My assessment of what is going on with the war is simply me calling balls and strikes as I see the pitches coming in (that ‘be rational’ thing). 

@Viking When you remove politics and narratives, there are two countries with the power and moral fortitude to rid us of such evil.  Even the broader Arab world recognizes this and is not standing in their way.  Ask yourself when in history has there ever been more such allegiance.  As to your baseball analogy, the Iranian regime is being shut out.  Every now and then they foul off a pitch but they will soon be buried for good.  It's the 8th or 9th inning and all their fans have already left.   They're batting 0.01 and their starting lineups and minor leaguers are long gone or soon will be while the remaining team is hiding under the dugout benches.  If you're bet on the Iranian regime you've lost your bet and your moral scruples.  

[LC]

5 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

HaHa!  - Great start on my Easter Sunday! 

 

Hanging out in a bar somewhere with friends, or skiing, @LC? 

I am too transparent!

Skiing, on what’s left of the snow this year…breaking out the hiking, fishing, mountain bike soon enough!  

[ourkid8]

7 hours ago, Viking said:

@ourkid8, to be clear, Iran coming out of this war in a much stronger strategic position would be a catastrophe for the region and the world. My assessment of what is going on with the war is simply me calling balls and strikes as I see the pitches coming in (that ‘be rational’ thing). 

Let me challenge you again as I really appreciate your rational thinking, when was the last in the last 100 years (this covers before and after when the Islamic republic started)  has Iran as a country initiated a war. 
 

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes” - Mark Twain 

[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Wouldn't waste a single brain cell reading your propaganda.    The "people" of Iran will be better off when your regime is gone.  They can thank Israel and the USA later.

 

The people of Iran are fully united against the Epstein class. You should see the pro government support, millions on millions are out in support.  It brings a tear to my eye how united the country has gotten.

 

As a word of advice, killing innocent kids, destroying hospitals, universities, infrastructure doesn’t help your cause of Iranians supporting Israel/US. In fact they will hate you more. And if Iran does become a regional super power - that will be a big problem for someone!
 

 In Israel, support against the war is growing day by day and the oppressive regime are throwing those innocent individuals in jail and touring them. - I really feel for those innocent individuals. 
 

In regards to the imperialistic government of US , this will tell you the full story what Americans think of Trump and his war: https://polymarket.com/midterms

 

You have already lost and you don’t know it yet!

Edited April 5 by ourkid8

[Whensthepaintdry?]

[ourkid8]

16 minutes ago, Whensthepaintdry? said:

“Never think that war, no matter how necessary nor how justified, is not a crime.”  - Ernest Hemingway

 

If you could not see who was right/wrong until now, this post should clear it up! SMH - despicable! 

Edited April 5 by ourkid8

[John Hjorth]

12 minutes ago, Whensthepaintdry? said:

 

Absolutely unbelievable message from a person who asserts to have a God, as a supposed nondenominational Christian, on Easter Sunday.

 

All right, no more religious posts!

Edited April 5 by John Hjorth

[cubsfan]

8 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Absolutely unbelievable message from a person who asserts to have a God, as a supposed nondenominational Christian, on Easter Sunday.

 

All right, no more religious posts!

 

Retribution for the murder of 1200 Israeli men, women and children butchered like animals by Iranian proxies.  Payback is a bitch.

 

24 hours left.

[Whensthepaintdry?]

I know some of you didn’t care for that predictive history YouTube guy. He’s been pretty spot on about a lot of this and the escalation. For someone like me who knows close to nothing about the Middle East it has me a little worried where all this is going. Supposedly a reserve at work just got notified of a deployment to Iran. 

[Whensthepaintdry?]

Apart from being concerned, I’ll continue buying cheap stocks. I lack the knowledge to do anything more intelligent. 

[SharperDingaan]

41 minutes ago, Whensthepaintdry? said:

 

It would seem that Orange Boy also can't count ........ 

The largest bridge in Iran was destroyed on Apr-03; two days later the Iranians still telling him to f**** o** 

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/middle-east/video-irans-biggest-bridge-b-1-destroyed-by-us-airstrikes-trump-issues-new-warning-to-tehran-article-153985658

 

Stuck in the tar pond, can't get out; let's go to hell together !!!. 

Drowning man.

 

SD

[cubsfan]

41 minutes ago, Whensthepaintdry? said:

I know some of you didn’t care for that predictive history YouTube guy. He’s been pretty spot on about a lot of this and the escalation. For someone like me who knows close to nothing about the Middle East it has me a little worried where all this is going. Supposedly a reserve at work just got notified of a deployment to Iran. 

 

At this point, the most important thing to know - in the absence of Iran agreeing to Trump's ultimate on Monday - look for widespread destruction on Tuesday for Iran.  Effectively, the US will be done, and most of Iran's military and weapons manufacturing capabilities will be finished.

 

We'll enter a new phase of Iranian containment against a destroyed nation that will now have to somehow rebuild if the USA decides to let them export their oil...

 

1 - The war will effectively be over

 

2-  NATO will be hanging together by a thread if it survives.

 

 

[ourkid8]

19 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

At this point, the most important thing to know - in the absence of Iran agreeing to Trump's ultimate on Monday - look for widespread destruction on Tuesday for Iran.  Effectively, the US will be done, and most of Iran's military and weapons manufacturing capabilities will be finished.

 

We'll enter a new phase of Iranian containment against a destroyed nation that will now have to somehow rebuild if the USA decides to let them export their oil...

 

1 - The war will effectively be over

 

2-  NATO will be hanging together by a thread if it survives.

 

 

 

@cubsfan How many American birds were downed this weekend? I thought they were “literally obliterated”?  
 

US intelligence confirms something very different than what you believe   US also begged for a ceasefire- how does it feel getting ready to take the L?  I guess that’s why you didn’t take me on my bet. 
 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/02/politics/iran-missiles-us-military-strikes-trump

Edited April 5 by ourkid8

[Gregmal]

The propaganda really is startling. Americans didnt ask for this, nonetheless its become another one of our burdens to bear. Tax dollars hard at work....More and more kids are starting to be sent overseas and the engagement seems inevitable. With engagement comes more fatalities. Iran "winning" is also quite insane/delusional...everything they have is being bombed to the detriment of their civilian population, no one even knows who's in charge cuz everyone who pops their head up gets whacked, and "we got a jet or two" after 30 days is akin to boasting about capturing a pawn when 3/4 of your pieces have been taken off the board in chess... total shitshow all around. Hardliners on both sides continue to fuck their people.