Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 7 hours ago, Parsad said: I think the Trump-Epstein Files will eventually take down this administration. This is like the Watergate Scandal...the stench just won't leave! There will be enough fall-out one way or another (redact and hide; fail to indict; spill the beans and point out the powerful perverts; perverts spill the beans on Trump for deals). Anyway you look at it, shit is in Trump's lap...among others! Those with BDS or ODS will keep buying the lies and ignore what happened and tout the Dow, borders, or some other "win". But Trump-Epstein Files are front and center now...you can blow up Iran and annex Greenland...but the stench is now an entity...it lives! Cheers! Nah, think you’re right he’s toast but wrong on the reason. Like if we get real, it’s a bunch of coo coo conspiracy theorists and sad drama whores that are making all the noise about the Epstein stuff. Rationally viewed, the Epstein story has been around for a long time. The guy is dead. The files sat with Garland/Biden for four years as well….its one of those things the loudest divas are excited about but not gonna be a doomer because most people have better things to focus on with their lives. What is going to be a doomer for Republicans is the crazy overreach and clever marketing of the ICE stuff by democrats. Immigration started off great with Trump sealing the border. But everything else has been a disaster PR wise. The optics of taking over cities, beating up protesters, eh you know what, he could probably even get away with that. But the aggressive nature of the raids and attacks on immigrants is really where it all falls apart. The reason being, is EVERYONE, don’t matter where you are, knows someone who knows someone who’s been affected by the ICE stuff. And people, regardless of skin color, don’t like their communities being disrupted. I know they are getting bad people off the street in some cases, but if even out here in conservative Florida we know people who were well liked and long standing whom are running into these issues, that’s no bueno. Edited February 12 by Gregmal
cubsfan Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Indeed - it's been an ugly, nasty process. One President unleashes hell and chaos upon the country, the next President commits to cleaning it up. Crime and drug deaths plummet to historic lows - at a big cost. A thankless job that someone had to do.
dealraker Posted February 12 Posted February 12 36 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Indeed - it's been an ugly, nasty process. One President unleashes hell and chaos upon the country, the next President commits to cleaning it up. Crime and drug deaths plummet to historic lows - at a big cost. A thankless job that someone had to do. "Cleaning up" is the correct wording...for the financial gains of the the super-duper stud-muffin'.
73 Reds Posted February 12 Posted February 12 59 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Nah, think you’re right he’s toast but wrong on the reason. Like if we get real, it’s a bunch of coo coo conspiracy theorists and sad drama whores that are making all the noise about the Epstein stuff. Rationally viewed, the Epstein story has been around for a long time. The guy is dead. The files sat with Garland/Biden for four years as well….its one of those things the loudest divas are excited about but not gonna be a doomer because most people have better things to focus on with their lives. What is going to be a doomer for Republicans is the crazy overreach and clever marketing of the ICE stuff by democrats. Immigration started off great with Trump sealing the border. But everything else has been a disaster PR wise. The optics of taking over cities, beating up protesters, eh you know what, he could probably even get away with that. But the aggressive nature of the raids and attacks on immigrants is really where it all falls apart. The reason being, is EVERYONE, don’t matter where you are, knows someone who knows someone who’s been affected by the ICE stuff. And people, regardless of skin color, don’t like their communities being disrupted. I know they are getting bad people off the street in some cases, but if even out here in conservative Florida we know people who were well liked and long standing whom are running into these issues, that’s no bueno. It really all depends on what happens in the mid-term elections - as is always the case with a lame duck President. But everyone has their own list of issues that are important to them in terms of priority. The narrative is optics are bad; all depends on who is looking through the glass. The overriding majority of people are silent as to how they really feel. It is only those who speak up that control the narrative but not necessarily reality. Even when people do speak up, they often feel differently - look no further than how inaccurate voting polls tend to be. It is only the hardened minority that can't get themselves to look at things with a lack of emotion and a grasp of historical perspective. Very little changes in the long run other than a hopeful move back to the center on most issues. Should that occur, Trump will have been an overriding success.
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: Nah, think you’re right he’s toast but wrong on the reason. Like if we get real, it’s a bunch of coo coo conspiracy theorists and sad drama whores that are making all the noise about the Epstein stuff. Rationally viewed, the Epstein story has been around for a long time. The guy is dead. The files sat with Garland/Biden for four years as well….its one of those things the loudest divas are excited about but not gonna be a doomer because most people have better things to focus on with their lives. If people had better things to do with their lives this 8 year old story would have died out long ago. Its the fact that the President (who is mentioned in the files a million times) campaigned on releasing the files. And then refused to do so. And when forced by law have still refused to do so. It just screams guilt. The drama whores seem to include every woman in the party who sees the files and is repulsed. When MTG, Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert all come out of the room in tears and go against Trump in this one issue (and only this issue) you know its bad. Its easy to put this behind him if he's innocent. Release the files. Then this story only held.up by drama whores and conspiracy theorists will die away
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Suuuuuuure….youve certainly been this rabid about it for 8+ years lmfao. There’s very clearly the TDS crowd whom makes up part of the infatuation. Identifiable by those whom magically gained interest last February or whatever. Then there’s also a big chunk of….eh, uhm, not sure the exact word or phrase so metaphorically….will just use an analogy. Had a friend visit not long ago. February is horrible for sports due to scheduling gaps and offseason/breaks. Friend doesn’t really care about sports though will watch a good game. So I’m flipping around looking for a game to put on, but nothing. Then went to a sports documentary and he was just like “bro, I don’t care for sports, but I’ll watch a game. But a documentary? I just don’t have even the slightest bit of interest in this.” It’s was funny. But yea, apply that to pedo true crime and that seems to be a rather substantial proportion of the “Epstein File” audience as well. So yea….immigration is going to make or break republicans at mid terms, and right now it ain’t looking good.
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I guess you could also have a hybrid category, the TDS folks whom also get really worked up in the pants whenever they think they’re about to “get Trump” as well as for pedo stuff and salacious deviant sex gossip too.
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 23 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Suuuuuuure….youve certainly been this rabid about it for 8+ years lmfao. There’s very clearly the TDS crowd whom makes up part of the infatuation. Identifiable by those whom magically gained interest last February or whatever. Then there’s also a big chunk of….eh, uhm, not sure the exact word or phrase so metaphorically….will just use an analogy. Had a friend visit not long ago. February is horrible for sports due to scheduling gaps and offseason/breaks. Friend doesn’t really care about sports though will watch a good game. So I’m flipping around looking for a game to put on, but nothing. Then went to a sports documentary and he was just like “bro, I don’t care for sports, but I’ll watch a game. But a documentary? I just don’t have even the slightest bit of interest in this.” It’s was funny. But yea, apply that to pedo true crime and that seems to be a rather substantial proportion of the “Epstein File” audience as well. So yea….immigration is going to make or break republicans at mid terms, and right now it ain’t looking good. Certainly haven't been this rabid for 8 years but very glad that its back in the spotlight because it didnt go away. If the President wasnt in there it probably would have just died out (unfortunately). I guess we.can thank Trump for making it a story again! Im not sure how this relates to a sports documentary unless the athletes were raping children (and the athletes were the head of the country).
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Im not sure how this relates to a sports documentary unless the athletes were raping children (and the athletes were the head of the country). Well, if one’s into sports they watch sports stuff and if one’s into... I mean the best most recent example is this dude Kho Rho or whatever his name is from California. Uses his access to see redacted material, then like a self serving attention seeking coward runs to the floor and gets his Twitter snippet/campaign material hiding behind the protections of the “speech and debate clause”….whereas anyone not deranged or carrying around a wee little brain knows, if you really wanna trigger an avalanche of new data/info, you stand on the front lawn in front of all the press and say shit so that if it’s contested, those people sue you and that forces discovery…. Anyway, enjoy your material… Edited February 12 by Gregmal
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Well, if one’s into sports they watch sports stuff and if one’s into... I mean the best most recent example is this dude Kho Rho or whatever his name is from California. Uses his access to see redacted material, then like a self serving attention seeking coward runs to the floor and gets his Twitter snippet/campaign material hiding behind the protections of the “speech and debate clause”….whereas anyone not deranged or carrying around a wee little brain knows, if you really wanna trigger an avalanche of new data/info, you stand on the front lawn in front of all the press and say shit so that if it’s contested, those people sue you and that forces discovery…. Anyway, enjoy your material… I love how you're more offended by people upset at pedophilia than by the actual pedophilia. So you want him to stand on the front steps and talk about what he's seen in the hope that whatever news outlets will slip it into the 15 minutes of news each day instead of putting it out to 10's of millions in a couple of minutes. You're the one always complaining about the dumb media - he's going directly to the people. And if youre paying attention (and you have other thi gs to think about) then everyone will pay attention.
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, dwy000 said: 38 minutes ago, Gregmal said: I love how you're more offended by people upset at pedophilia than by the actual pedophilia. lol nice frame job. I haven’t said I’m offended. Just a little grossed out by how insatiable some folks desires for more material related to deviant sex behavior and child pornography is. Like I said, you keep looking bud…
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Gregmal said: lol nice frame job. I haven’t said I’m offended. Just a little grossed out by how insatiable some folks desires for more material related to deviant sex behavior and child pornography is. Like I said, you keep looking bud… Talk about a frame job, that could go in a museum!! Nobody is asking for the materials for a watch party. They're asking for them to force charges to be brought by a DOJ that is so corrupt it is literally breaking the law by not releasing them. Again, youre more concerned with the people upset here than the people committing the crime.
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 You’ve got 20+ years of bipartisan law enforcement involved in this, everyone from local, to state, federal and even the highest levels of that. But of course, you guys are gonna “crack the case” and find that elusive smoking gun everyone else has seemingly and obviously missed! But only; after combing through each and every single page and piece of redacted material in a dark room with a bottle of Jergens lmfao….good lord
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, Gregmal said: You’ve got 20+ years of bipartisan law enforcement involved in this, everyone from local, to state, federal and even the highest levels of that. But of course, you guys are gonna “crack the case” and find that elusive smoking gun everyone else has seemingly and obviously missed! But only; after combing through each and every single page and piece of redacted material in a dark room with a bottle of Jergens lmfao….good lord The law requires them to release the unredacted files and the DOJ is preventing that. The same DOJ that is so anxious to bring charges against Trump enemies that they have been rejected by the Grand Jury multiple times! Tell me thats not corrupt. Again, you seem to want to attack those who simply want to punish pedophiles and not the actual pedophiles
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Again, you seem to want to attack those who simply want to punish pedophiles and not the actual pedophiles I’ve told you multiple times I am not offended, nor upset. Just puzzled, and instead you choose to oddly keep lying to fill your own odd fantasies. It’s almost as bizarre as how you and a few others at the whisper of the words “Trump” or “Epstein”, show up here like dogs in heat with the simplicity of a hand puppet. I was talking to Sanjeev about trumps power slipping and what I perceive to be the drivers and here you are, off again talking about child porn lol Edited February 12 by Gregmal
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gregmal said: I’ve told you multiple times I am not offended, nor upset. Just puzzled, and instead you choose to oddly keep lying to fill your own odd fantasies. It’s almost as bizarre as how you and a few others at the whisper of the words “Trump” or “Epstein”, show up here like dogs in heat with the simplicity of a hand puppet. I was talking to Sanjeev about trumps power slipping and what I perceive to be the drivers and here you are, off again talking about child porn lol Again...framing. The discussion was around whether Epstein would bring down Trump and you claimed it was an old.story and people had other things to think about. We are talking about child porn because the President of the United States is mentioned one million times in the files of a convicted pedophile he was good friends with. And then he refuses to release the files despite it.being the law and him claiming to support it. You are the one that keeps.bringing it back to ranting about the people who want the files released. Edited February 12 by dwy000
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) lol yes, we know you’re obsessed with Trump and Epstein, have a good day with your material bud. The handling of immigration will determine mid term elections, not your perverted infatuations. Til the next time someone mentions Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice….cheers! Edited February 12 by Gregmal
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, Gregmal said: lol yes, we know you’re obsessed with Trump and Epstein, have a good day with your material bud. The handling of immigration will determine mid term elections, not your perverted infatuations. Til the next time someone mentions Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice….cheers! Yes, you got me. Im obsessed with rooting out and punishing pedophiles. In your book that seems to make me more evil than them. Truly a cult.
Gregmal Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Cult!!! Bingo! we have a winner. Was just waiting for the DUI hat trick. Trump, child porn, and cults…….his holy triumvirate lmfao
dwy000 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Cult!!! Bingo! we have a winner. Was just waiting for the DUI hat trick. Trump, child porn, and cults…….his holy triumvirate lmfao When you support the pedophiles over the people wanting to expose them. The Trump cult has fully sucked you into its realm. Its just plastic surgery and dancing to YMCA from here on.
Spekulatius Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Epstein is not going to bring Trump down it’s going to bring down other people but not Trump. I think other things - inflation picking potentially, tone deaf administration (ICE) , K shaped economy, job market going downhill and maybe even this AI Terminator killing jobs.
John Hjorth Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Some Friday fun - lol! https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116043090074364624 - - - o 0 o - - - CNN Politics - Facts First [February 11th 2026] : Fact check: What Trump got wrong and left out while threatening to block the new US-Canada bridge
cwericb Posted February 13 Posted February 13 As Trump gets loonier and loonier and it becomes more obvious just how deranged he actually has become, we see less and less defensive posts on this board. It has pretty well now come down to a place where only the true cult members even bother to try and justify the lunatic's lies and antics. The damage he has done to the United States is immeasurable. We are now probably nearing an all out push by the administration to control or postpone the upcoming elections. Remember that old Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times".
73 Reds Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Just now, cwericb said: As Trump gets loonier and loonier and it becomes more obvious just how deranged he actually has become, we see less and less defensive posts on this board. It has pretty well now come down to a place where only the true cult members even bother to try and justify the lunatic's lies and antics. The damage he has done to the United States is immeasurable. We are now probably nearing an all out push by the administration to control or postpone the upcoming elections. Remember that old Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times". Or perhaps we've just become bored with you all.
dwy000 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Or perhaps we've just become bored with you all. At least youre acknowledging the cult part now.
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