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[Marco Van Basten]

5 hours ago, LC said:

They’re leaving New York!

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQxQUHokkNZ/?igsh=MTA2d3ptb3hudHRxeA==

You are laughing, but I know a quite a few people in Manhattan who have decided to move post primary/election.  Some people are going to wait two years while the kids finish school, others are not waiting.  A significant percentage of these folks, probably a third to a half will be impacted by Mamdani's taxes, but everyone will be impacted by his proposals on crime, $30 minimum wage and turning busses into homeless shelters on wheels.

 

By the way, the post is NOT accurate and actually is misleading.  In 2008, 14% of all of the US's people with annual income in excess of one million dollars per year lived in NYC, today it is less than 9%.  So wealthy people have clearly left NYC.  

Edited November 8, 2025 by Marco Van Basten

[Gregmal]

It’s kinda funny they think they’re doing oh so great as they watch their capital and quality citizens flee. I guess the lower enders continuing to procreate to take advantage of government assistance programs is what they’re feeling victorious about? Meanwhile the rest of the country is laughing at them and even many democrats want nothing to do with him. Did career politician Chuck ever even come around to endorsing him? You gotta marvel at how stupid they all are. Any guesses as to whether Zohan solves their problems or not? Gonna be fun to watch. 

Edited November 8, 2025 by Gregmal

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, Mephistopheles said:

 

Wasn't me! Buy $JOE

 

I am, while I watch NYC go the way of Chicago

[Spekulatius]

2 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said:

You are laughing, but I know a quite a few people in Manhattan who have decided to move post primary/election.  Some people are going to wait two years while the kids finish school, others are not waiting.  A significant percentage of these folks, probably a third to a half will be impacted by Mamdani's taxes, but everyone will be impacted by his proposals on crime, $30 minimum wage and turning busses into homeless shelters on wheels.

 

By the way, the post is NOT accurate and actually is misleading.  In 2008, 14% of all of the US's people with annual income in excess of one million dollars per year lived in NYC, today it is less than 9%.  So wealthy people have clearly left NYC.  

Well in 2008 there was an issue with the financial industry  so I am not sure that particular number means much. I think I would be leaving NYC if I could make similar money elsewhere regardless of Mamdani.

[Parsad]

14 hours ago, Mephistopheles said:

They (the Democrats) are awful, cringeworthy, and really a bunch of pussies. They deserve more than their fair share of culpability for the rise of Trump.

 

Just, Trump is unique in his threat that’s worse than the above. That’s all I’m saying but totally agree that both sides are to blame for most of all our problems.

 

No, totally agree with you that Trump is worse than any Democratic President...in fact, he's worse than any Republican President!  But you only get such a guy when the choices aren't great and the country's population feels there are deep problems somewhere. 

 

Trump is a result of his immediate predecessors...pretty much since Dubya, since that is when this deep divide's roots originated with Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Koch brothers.  It's like they were Victor Frankenstein and Trump is their accidental monster that has run amok and no one can control...and Americans and the rest of the world are the villagers!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, adesigar said:

 

We’ve been hearing the exact same garbage on this very site for years. Don’t worry they will ignore facts and continue whining. 

 

Yeah, has anyone noticed how New York's population has been dropping since Obama!  It's totally dying!    Cheers!

 

[Parsad]

3 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said:

You are laughing, but I know a quite a few people in Manhattan who have decided to move post primary/election.  Some people are going to wait two years while the kids finish school, others are not waiting.  A significant percentage of these folks, probably a third to a half will be impacted by Mamdani's taxes, but everyone will be impacted by his proposals on crime, $30 minimum wage and turning busses into homeless shelters on wheels.

 

By the way, the post is NOT accurate and actually is misleading.  In 2008, 14% of all of the US's people with annual income in excess of one million dollars per year lived in NYC, today it is less than 9%.  So wealthy people have clearly left NYC.  

 

It's all cyclical...look at the chart I posted above and see how NY's population was really dropping during the 70's and 80's.  What you are seeing in the last decade is normal attrition and growth.  Cheers!

[Spekulatius]

35 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

No, totally agree with you that Trump is worse than any Democratic President...in fact, he's worse than any Republican President!  But you only get such a guy when the choices aren't great and the country's population feels there are deep problems somewhere. 

 

Trump is a result of his immediate predecessors...pretty much since Dubya, since that is when this deep divide's roots originated with Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Koch brothers.  It's like they were Victor Frankenstein and Trump is their accidental monster that has run amok and no one can control...and Americans and the rest of the world are the villagers!  Cheers!

Mamdani got elected elected for the same reason people elected Trump. The politicians they elected before were awful and the other candidates were more of the same. It is funny that big money went behind Cuomo even though nobody really likes the guy, not even the big money, They just liked Mamdani less. Voters say fuck them, we vote for the guy just because. His wife is hot too.

 

Trump and Mamdani are two sides of the same coin imo. Voters say fuck the establishment and let’s roll the dice and see what happens.

Edited November 9, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

Mamdani got elected elected for the same reason people elected Trump. The politicians they elected before were awful and the other candidates were more of the same. It is funny that big money went behind Cuomo even though nobody really likes the guy, not even the big money, They just liked Mamdani less. Voters say fuck them, we vote for the guy just because. His wife is hot too.

 

Trump and Mamdani are two sides of the same coin imo. Voters say fuck the establishment and let’s roll the dice and see what happens.

 

+!!  Cheers!

[LC]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/air-traffic-controllers-start-resigning-as-shutdown-bites/

 

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“Let’s not lie about the pressure,” he said. “The ones who do come to work, they’re the ones that are working six days a week, 10 hours a day. You can do that for a couple weeks, but at one point, you’re going to get burned out, and that’s what we’re seeing. Now, there’s a higher level of fatigue with the controllers.”

The Trump administration has responded to the crisis by curbing air traffic by 10 percent in 40 “high-traffic” markets, including New York City, Boston, Los Angeles, and other major American cities.

 

 

MAGA at work! 

[John Hjorth]

 

lol! - The whole thing is actually top notch leisure saturday best in class entertainment, at least for those of us old bugggers with bad knees, what ever, standing with one foot on a banana shell and the other foot in grave.

 

I have been laghing basically ever since your last post above now for more than four hours, unable to stop laughing, thinking I'm really in need of a full anastesia to get it under control, gave up on the idea after thinking a bit about, remembering all those videos of babies on X playing with their best friend the house pet, the doggo, the sitting baby can basically do nothing than just that, eat and drink, sleep, and fill the daipers, ... cry, smile and laugh!, but without  any kind of real control over it, and can't help laughing when the doggo is funny.  So it must be in the repile brain, meaning I'll likely just continue laughing while under full anestesia, I'm in need of is being put down for good to get it to stop. That is a quite drastic measure, then better try to live with it. But I've now reached my limit for stressing my sore  stomach musles further from reading CofB&F. Next my ribs will become sore, and eventually, all my internal organs will begin falling down in the buttom of my body core in a pile,  because they can't keep holding on to where they are placed and attached from this constant quake.

 

So what do have here? A guy named Gordon, whose name nobody really know what is he appears however not to to be named Gordon according to some anyway, goes down, fainting in the oval office. What is this? How did he end up exactly there behind POTUSin the oval office, somebody at the White House don't know who he is?

 

Then notice this was happening under a victory lap  in the Oval Officice for yet another deal closed by POTUS, carefully planned by POTUS and staff, please note he applied a manus, that he did not deviate from. The session was naturally whacked, ruined by the incident, and removing all attention from POTUS, it clearly appeared that he was not amused with what happened. But at least he had the form here to stay silent, standing.

 

Then all main stream media folks present are ordered to get out, and cameras aren't stopped as ordered, and the whole thing immedially ends up on the Internet, unflitered, unedited, nothing cut out.

 

Then bots, scrapers, algos start doing their work, videos shared, lazy reporters just copy and repeating from other media, not checking facts, sources, GROK and AI, LLMs also doing their thing, the whole thing going totally haywire, almost creating a an increasingly spinning black hole, with real information about the realities, facts unvailable, incarcerated behind the event horizon in the certer of the black hole.

 

Next Mike Doustdar uses part of his Saturday sharing his perception and using the opportunity with the man down doing a spin on LinkedIn with a photo of how he and LLYs Dave always are there for patients, even here cooperating in the situation, despite being competitors.

 

Some things of it appear funny, others headshaking, others absolutely not funny, and them some appalling.

 

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Structuring, thinking about the dimensions of the thing Saturday has cured my laughing, It appears.

[73 Reds]

12 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Yeah, has anyone noticed how New York's population has been dropping since Obama!  It's totally dying!    Cheers!

 

That happens when borders are open.  Coincidence?  You don't need to look at charts and graphs; just take an informal poll:  How many here now want to move to NYC?  Anyone?  The good news is home prices in NY may now be more affordable.  But as someone who owns many rental units you couldn't give me a property in NYC.  Don't want to live there and don't want to do business there.       

[Gregmal]

They just don’t get it and that’s why they keep thinking they’re winning when everyone else is laughing at them. Pointing towards decades of plain old population tallies or talking about gdp/tax receipts is laughable because it’s living on what’s been built up over decades and not what’s happening recently. NYC and California are like the GE and GM from 20 years ago and their supporters are like the C suite guys who made it happen.

 

I used to love nyc. It was great, fun and largely safe for most of my life up til probably a decade or so ago. De Blasio was really the start of its problems and they’ve only accelerated from there. The cashless bail and tax the rich stuff isn’t sustainable, period. California is similar. It was paradise and what everyone aspired to for the greater part of the last 50 years. But now we have 25 year olds pretending it’s 1995 with the “alls well” head in the sand stuff as businesses move to Texas. Or the “post a cool pic of something neat” with the Instagram caption “NYC is back!” Lol. If you love homeless people, crime, theft, etc….great for you. The higher quality people prefer law and order, low taxes, and tree lined streets instead of feces and garbage bags lining the streets.

Edited November 9, 2025 by Gregmal

[cubsfan]

14 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

No, totally agree with you that Trump is worse than any Democratic President...in fact, he's worse than any Republican President!  But you only get such a guy when the choices aren't great and the country's population feels there are deep problems somewhere. 

 

You don't get the biggest comeback in American political history because of poor choices.  Americans saw enough of wrecking the country to understand they needed someone strong and unafraid to fix it. 

Europe could learn some lessons from this..

[dwy000]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

They just don’t get it and that’s why they keep thinking they’re winning when everyone else is laughing at them. Pointing towards decades of plain old population tallies or talking about gdp/tax receipts is laughable because it’s living on what’s been built up over decades and not what’s happening recently. NYC and California are like the GE and GM from 20 years ago and their supporters are like the C suite guys who made it happen.

 

I used to love nyc. It was great, fun and largely safe for most of my life up til probably a decade or so ago. De Blasio was really the start of its problems and they’ve only accelerated from there. The cashless bail and tax the rich stuff isn’t sustainable, period. California is similar. It was paradise and what everyone aspired to for the greater part of the last 50 years. But now we have 25 year olds pretending it’s 1995 with the “alls well” head in the sand stuff as businesses move to Texas. Or the “post a cool pic of something neat” with the Instagram caption “NYC is back!” Lol. If you love homeless people, crime, theft, etc….great for you. The higher quality people prefer law and order, low taxes, and tree lined streets instead of feces and garbage bags lining the streets.

You can hate on it all you want and granted, NYC is not everyone's cup of tea, but this idea that its dying is just plain wrong. Population is up, rents are astronomical as so many people want to live there and it doesnt rank anywhere near the most dangerous cities in the country. The city continues to be where young people, creative people and ambitious people want to be. Its why its the cultural center, the restaurant center, the museum center for the country.  T

 

The older you get and the wealthier you get the less the rat race appeals and people move away.  Thats been NYC for generations.  Mamdami is going to be a disaster (probably) and then will get voted out. But NYC will still be around and everyone across the country will still argue about how great or terrible it is.

 

I'm fascinated by this need to hate on people and things you dont like.  Life's too short. Go for a walk. 

[LC]

Not a perfect proxy but:

 

 

 

The reality is that other cities in the US have been growing faster than NYC, but that is not the same as NYC shrinking.  

I think that is a combination of the tech boom and COVID/remote work.

 

[dwy000]

3 minutes ago, LC said:

Not a perfect proxy but:

 

 

 

The reality is that other cities in the US have been growing faster than NYC, but that is not the same as NYC shrinking.  

I think that is a combination of the tech boom and COVID/remote work.

 

Plus limited space. Most of NYC is on 3 islands and commute time comes into play.  Its also why rents are so high because you cant just build your way into supply meeting demand. 

Edited November 9, 2025 by dwy000

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Plus limited space. Most of NYC is on 3 islands and commute time comes into play.  Its also why rents are so high because you cant just build your way into supply meeting demand. 

If redistribution of wealth is your thing, NYC is the ideal place.  As a business owner I'd be scared to death of what is to come.  As a property owner with tenants I'd have -0- confidence that any lease would be legally enforced.  

[John Hjorth]

Doesen't there exist sufficiently fine meshed geographical US employment / unemployment statistics to cover the above discussion among several CofB&F board members about what is going on over time in NYC?

Edited November 9, 2025 by John Hjorth

[Gregmal]

lol is pointing to structural things that exist because of existing and being dominant for the better part of, idk, 100-150 years…really in any way indicative of what’s been occurring and accelerating over the past 5-10 years? Like I said, GM/GE circa 20 years ago. 
 

Like no shit NYC has the most and best restaurants(also ignoring the nature of “terms” related to a CRE leases! Hint…leasing has been pretty poor recently)

Edited November 9, 2025 by Gregmal

[LC]

1 minute ago, Gregmal said:

lol is pointing to structural things that exist because of existing and being dominant for the better part of, idk, 100-150 years…really in any way indicative of what’s been occurring and accelerating over the past 5-10 years? Like I said, GM/GE circa 20 years ago. 

Well, the flip side to this argument is:

 

Should we be extrapolating something that's been going on for only 5-10 years to an environment that has thrived over the past 100-150 years, surviving tons of previous 5-10 year "crises?

 

Guess that's what makes a (florida real estate) market!

[Gregmal]

45 minutes ago, LC said:

Well, the flip side to this argument is:

 

Should we be extrapolating something that's been going on for only 5-10 years to an environment that has thrived over the past 100-150 years, surviving tons of previous 5-10 year "crises?

 

Guess that's what makes a (florida real estate) market!

I mean no one is saying literally everyone will leave NYC….its not gonna be Will Smith I am Legend stuff, just a continuation of what’s been happening. High quality businesses and people leave and are replaced by lower enders….so no, it won’t be empty, it’ll just become Chicago or maybe even Paterson lol 

Edited November 9, 2025 by Gregmal

[dwy000]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

I mean no one is saying literally everyone will leave NYC….its not gonna be Will Smith I am Legend stuff, just a continuation of what’s been happening. High quality businesses and people leave and are replaced by lower enders….so no, it won’t be empty, it’ll just become Chicago or maybe even Paterson lol 

Thats been NYC for generations. Young people move there because its a hub of the most aggressive, ambitious people around.  They either fail or flatline and leave.  Or they make their fortune and leave in their 50's.  Thats been the process forever.

 

Its the same for say, Boca Raton.  People move there in their 50's or 60's (maybe from NYC!).  They age out and die, to be replaced by new 50 and 60 year olds. 

 

Its the great cycle of life. Doesn't make either place a shithole.  Different strokes for different folks. And the best part is that nobody has to live there if they dont want to. 

Edited November 9, 2025 by dwy000

[SharperDingaan]

On 10/24/2025 at 10:53 AM, bizaro86 said:

 

There won't be another Federal election in the near term. If the NDP/Liberals can't agree a few conservatives will support the budget. They have a huge incentive to do so, because if an election was held today the Liberals would take a much larger majority at the expense of the Conservatives. A few of the conservative MPs who would lose their seats will find something in the budget for their constituents as a reason to hold their nose and vote for it.

 

Doubtful there will be another election for quite some time, as neither of the NDP, Block, or Greens have the money to try again so soon. It would seem that the Conservatives will also have a new leader in the near future, which will push a potential election back a bit. In the meantime, we have a current budget very much in the vein of the Mr Harper Conservative budgets, and an actual industrial policy.

 

SD   

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, dwy000 said:

Thats been NYC for generations. Young people move there because its a hub of the most aggressive, ambitious people around.  They either fail or flatline and leave.  Or they make their fortune and leave in their 50's.  Thats been the process forever.

 

Its the same for say, Boca Raton.  People move there in their 50's or 60's (maybe from NYC!).  They age out and die, to be replaced by new 50 and 60 year olds. 

 

Its the great cycle of life. Doesn't make either place a shithole.  Different strokes for different folks. And the best part is that nobody has to live there if they dont want to. 

 

Downtown Chicago is fairly similar. Except now, you're lucky to make it out alive.