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[Blake Hampton]

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[Blake Hampton]

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[changegonnacome]

20 hours ago, Hektor said:

Who will fund and supply Iran?

 

China of course......they are basically the number one purchaser of Iranian oil.....and they've got a dog in this fight (even though it seems like they dont).

 

There's probably only one person who wants the US to get pulled into a conflict with Iran more than Bibi does and thats China & Xi.

 

If Xi could get the US stretched out further with simultaneous conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.....he would be crazy not to go for Taiwan at that point.

[cubsfan]

35 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

China of course......they are basically the number one purchaser of Iranian oil.....and they've got a dog in this fight (even though it seems like they dont).

 

There's probably only one person who wants the US to get pulled into a conflict with Iran more than Bibi does and thats China & Xi.

 

If Xi could get the US stretched out further with simultaneous conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.....he would be crazy not to go for Taiwan at that point.

 

100%

[Hektor]

1 hour ago, changegonnacome said:

 

China of course......they are basically the number one purchaser of Iranian oil.....and they've got a dog in this fight (even though it seems like they dont).

 

There's probably only one person who wants the US to get pulled into a conflict with Iran more than Bibi does and thats China & Xi.

 

If Xi could get the US stretched out further with simultaneous conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.....he would be crazy not to go for Taiwan at that point.

That’s an interesting take @changegonnacome. How would they supply? Probably via Pakistan which borders Iran?

[Parsad]

Democratic Senator and husband assasinated...another Democratic Senator shot...Trump and crony rhetoric is spurring this sort of lone-wolf, nutjob attacks.  The guy had 70 targets!  I expect more of this shit during the next 3 years.  

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-14-25

[73 Reds]

Really?  Is Trump to blame for every right-wing crazy lunatic?  Was Biden to blame for assassination attempts on Trump?  Can't we recognize that there are crazies everywhere who are so mentally unstable that it takes little or nothing to set them off?  Murders occur literally every hour.  Maybe Trump is to blame for those too.   But then how do you explain all the crazies that preceded him and those who will follow him?  Or maybe he was and will be responsible for those too.  C'mon man. 

[Gregmal]

Exactly, it’s pathetic. As @Milustated in the crypto thread, it’s so pitiful that folks who worship at the knees of Buffett and fully support an idea of his, go full deranged loony to find a reason to call Trump trying to adopt the same idea…the stupidest and craziest thing in the history of the world.
 

Extremism and crazies are present on both sides, but when we look at the root causes it’s the widespread media coverage, social media, etc; the insane way folks justify the radicalization of the press over the last decade, and then of course folks who need to scream and cry over every little stupid thing. Like look at someone like @DooDiligencewhom pretty much only posts emotionally charged loony clickbait, and genuinely believes we re on the verge of Holocaust 2.0. It’s funny and amusing to watch until these nuts get too wound up and take it to the next level and tragic things happen. 

[Xerxes]

2 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

 

China of course......they are basically the number one purchaser of Iranian oil.....and they've got a dog in this fight (even though it seems like they dont).

 

There's probably only one person who wants the US to get pulled into a conflict with Iran more than Bibi does and thats China & Xi.

 

If Xi could get the US stretched out further with simultaneous conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.....he would be crazy not to go for Taiwan at that point.

Disagree. 
 

Iran comes up for grab for geopolitical alignment every 40-50 years. 
 

Beijing and Moscow would be more concern about permanent (measured in decades) loss of influence in Iran.

 

Think second or third order effect 

[Gregmal]

58 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Democratic Senator and husband assasinated...another Democratic Senator shot...Trump and crony rhetoric is spurring this sort of lone-wolf, nutjob attacks.  The guy had 70 targets!  I expect more of this shit during the next 3 years.  

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-14-25

Aaaaand this is already aging terribly as it's believed to be a Tim Walz appointed Democrat whom targeted these people for working on a bipartisan measure to cut healthcare for illegals that theyre refusing to do anything about. In the suspects car, they found these dumb "no kings" posters, which again mirrors that retarded and ignorant rhetoric that many(again check here) regularly throw out in emotionally charged, deranged fashion, even though they've likely already been educated on how nothing occurring right now fits the definition of "dictator", "authoritarian", "king", etc....but they continue at it anyway because in theyre minds theyre really "getting Trump" by incorrectly slinging around these terms...

[Marco Van Basten]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

Democratic Senator and husband assasinated...another Democratic Senator shot...Trump and crony rhetoric is spurring this sort of lone-wolf, nutjob attacks.  The guy had 70 targets!  I expect more of this shit during the next 3 years.  

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-14-25

I think it was a left-winger who did, no?  I think if you look at political assassinations and attempts in the US in the past several decades, it is generally left-wingers who did it, no?  For instance, the attack on the congressional delegation was done by a left-winger on a group of Republican congressmen.  

[Parsad]

27 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Aaaaand this is already aging terribly as it's believed to be a Tim Walz appointed Democrat whom targeted these people for working on a bipartisan measure to cut healthcare for illegals that theyre refusing to do anything about. In the suspects car, they found these dumb "no kings" posters, which again mirrors that retarded and ignorant rhetoric that many(again check here) regularly throw out in emotionally charged, deranged fashion, even though they've likely already been educated on how nothing occurring right now fits the definition of "dictator", "authoritarian", "king", etc....but they continue at it anyway because in theyre minds theyre really "getting Trump" by incorrectly slinging around these terms...

 

He had the "No Kings" posters, because he was targeting specific protests as well.  Of the 70 targets, how is it they fit the anti-Trump ideology profile?  Geez! 

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Really?  Is Trump to blame for every right-wing crazy lunatic?  Was Biden to blame for assassination attempts on Trump?  Can't we recognize that there are crazies everywhere who are so mentally unstable that it takes little or nothing to set them off?  Murders occur literally every hour.  Maybe Trump is to blame for those too.   But then how do you explain all the crazies that preceded him and those who will follow him?  Or maybe he was and will be responsible for those too.  C'mon man. 

 

He certainly is to blame for stirring up the pot to the point where madmen start murderous rampages to fulfill the MAGA agenda.  The riots in LA were minimal around a 3 block radius (not much different than Vancouver's hockey riot in 2011 or elsewhere in the U.S....Boston, Florida, etc.).  Yet Trump calls in the National Guards which flames the fires...and then the Marines!  The terminology he uses in his press conferences is inflammatory...not just typical political rhetoric, but revengeful, vindictive rhetoric!  It's like a guy yelling fire in a theatre.  Cheers!

[73 Reds]

7 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

He certainly is to blame for stirring up the pot to the point where madmen start murderous rampages to fulfill the MAGA agenda.  The riots in LA were minimal around a 3 block radius (not much different than Vancouver's hockey riot in 2011 or elsewhere in the U.S....Boston, Florida, etc.).  Yet Trump calls in the National Guards which flames the fires...and then the Marines!  The terminology he uses in his press conferences is inflammatory...not just typical political rhetoric, but revengeful, vindictive rhetoric!  It's like a guy yelling fire in a theatre.  Cheers!

This is the problem.  For some of you, no matter what Trump does or doesn't do, he is at fault.  If the riots get out of hand, blame Trump.  If he tries to mitigate the damage, he's going too far.  You genuinely can't let it go.  What many of you don't understand is that he won an election because the majority of Americans wanted him back in office.  They knew what they were getting.  Those who didn't vote for him also knew what they would be getting  So did all of you from outside the US unless your heads were in the sand during the pre-election cycle.  Now that he is following through on campaign promises, you can't stand it.  Why?  Some of us who voted for him (like me) don't particularly like a lot of what he says, does and how he acts.  But we don't spend every waking thought festering on it, or him.  I don't recall a single important Biden policy that I agreed with but I didn't blame him for every failure or misfit.  Blame goes to those committing the offensive acts.  What a waste of time and energy lamenting about such nonsense.  

[Gregmal]

Whereas last decade the dumb dumbs turned every little thing into evidence of racism, today the brainwashed framework behind their warped lens is that every little thing is “a threat to democracy”. Perhaps at some point we cross the line of no return for folks….idk. Social media and msm has probably pushed a lot of society into that bucket. But it’s sad and pathetic folks can’t simply stand how great life is and instead need to rot their brains with the daily obsession of nitpicking the hell out of every single word, breath, or step Trump takes. 

[WayWardCloud]

6 hours ago, sleepydragon said:

on twitter, there are posts saying peasants saw large military movements at night in guangdong

Can you provide a link? I'm not seeing anything like that but maybe I'm searching wrong.

[73 Reds]

5 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Whereas last decade the dumb dumbs turned every little thing into evidence of racism, today the brainwashed framework behind their warped lens is that every little thing is “a threat to democracy”. Perhaps at some point we cross the line of no return for folks….idk. Social media and msm has probably pushed a lot of society into that bucket. But it’s sad and pathetic folks can’t simply stand how great life is and instead need to rot their brains with the daily obsession of nitpicking the hell out of every single word, breath, or step Trump takes. 

Yeah LOL, the greatest threat to democracy is...... democracy itself.  The blame game has no winners.

[Blake Hampton]

A lot of people in this country are blind to reality.

 

Edited June 14, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[Blake Hampton]

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[dwy000]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

This is the problem.  For some of you, no matter what Trump does or doesn't do, he is at fault.  If the riots get out of hand, blame Trump.  If he tries to mitigate the damage, he's going too far.  You genuinely can't let it go.  What many of you don't understand is that he won an election because the majority of Americans wanted him back in office.  They knew what they were getting.  Those who didn't vote for him also knew what they would be getting  So did all of you from outside the US unless your heads were in the sand during the pre-election cycle.  Now that he is following through on campaign promises, you can't stand it.  Why?  Some of us who voted for him (like me) don't particularly like a lot of what he says, does and how he acts.  But we don't spend every waking thought festering on it, or him.  I don't recall a single important Biden policy that I agreed with but I didn't blame him for every failure or misfit.  Blame goes to those committing the offensive acts.  What a waste of time and energy lamenting about such nonsense.  

People tend to vote against candidates as opposed to for candidates.  Thats why attack ads work so well.  If people wanted what Trump was supporting he would have string approval ratings now but he's under water on all categories. Thats the nature of politics. Nobody is ever happy.  

 

Its not the media that creates the divisiveness (except the extremes on both sides -Fox, MSNBC. Etc) because most of them try desperately to present both sides and both sides hate them. Its social media.  Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook etc all just feed confirmation loops and most people get their news there not from mainstream media.  

 

Just look at this site for example. Its a stock board!  And yet everyone has taken extreme views while claiming they are middle ground and unbiased. On a stock board!  If we can't remove extremism on a value stock site what hope is there for everywhere else where its actually about politics. 

[Red Lion]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

Democratic Senator and husband assasinated...another Democratic Senator shot...Trump and crony rhetoric is spurring this sort of lone-wolf, nutjob attacks.  The guy had 70 targets!  I expect more of this shit during the next 3 years.  

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-06-14-25

 

I agree with the current rhetoric being terrible, and I certainly hope that the justice department comes down hard on this case (and others like it) for domestic terrorism, and other federal charges. 

 

But Trump and his crony's rhetoric isn't the only game in town unfortunately. It wasn't even a year ago, and not even an inch the other direction, and Trump would have been assassinated himself. 

 

Everyone needs to scale it back a bunch of pegs, embrace our neighbors' opposing viewpoints while disagreeing with them like civilized adults, and take a sense of collective pride in the fact that we live in a society that stands for the rights of people to hold and express opposing viewpoints. I'm not predicting this outcome sadly, but I think people on both sides, and the people who can't decide which side is worse, need to come to peace with the fact that others have differing worldviews. 

[Sweet]

I mean, how many times has Trump been called a threat to democracy, dictator, hitler etc.  How does that rhetoric not fuel assassinations?

[Red Lion]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

The terminology he uses in his press conferences is inflammatory...not just typical political rhetoric, but revengeful, vindictive rhetoric! 

 

I feel like this is the sort of rhetoric one could use to get elected (because let's be real, it definitely works), and then scale it back once in office. Trump's rhetoric on immigration is repugnant, while his actual performance is much less draconian than Obama's! 

[Spekulatius]

Does it get any better than this?

 

 

[Blake Hampton]

12 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

Trump's rhetoric on immigration is repugnant, while his actual performance is much less draconian than Obama's! 

Trump is pushing the most regressive policy in decades alongside a time of record inequality. And all along the way, destroying any remaining trust in our democratic institutions to boot.

 

His performance is far more draconian than Obama’s.

 

Edited June 14, 2025 by Blake Hampton