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2 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

Turkey backs the rebels though. I think it’s in the West and Turkey‘s interests to kick the Russians out there. It‘s also in the rebels interests to kick the Russians out there and prevent them from getting foothold hold again, if I were in their shoes.

 

Who knows who is going to gain power and what their interests are and decisions will be.

Turkey's interests are in having a fundamentalist government in Syria, which is not in the interest of the West.

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“Can a butterfly flapping its wing in Amazon forest cause a hurricane in the Pacific” 

 

Sinwar successfully flapped his wings. The dominos brought down Damascus elsewhere.   
 

Turkey is interesting. 
 

Just like Iran was a net beneficiary of 2003 invasion of Iraq, the 2011 Arab uprising, the Saudi war in Yemen … at the expense of others 

 

Now turkey is the net beneficiary of the Ukraine war and the near east conflict with Israel-Palestine.
 

Turkey was able to score two major gains just in two years: Armenia and now Syria; at the expense of Iranians and Russians. Not to mention flexing its power through the control of the passage to Black Sea for military vessels. 
 

It is party time in Constantinople this Christmas. If it was being celebrated. 

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What is interesting is how quickly these regimes disintegrate once the dominos start to fall. Syria is no exception - there was Alysia under Ghadaffi , Ceausescu in Romania, the Sha in Iran. 
 

Same could happen with Putin and Russia. There are only  handful people at the top and once the head of the snake is severed, the rest just disintegrates.

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1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

What is interesting is how quickly these regimes disintegrate once the dominos start to fall. Syria is no exception - there was Alysia under Ghadaffi , Ceausescu in Romsnis, the Sha in Iran. 
 

Same could happen with Putin and Russia. There are only  handful people at the top and once the head of the snake is severed, the rest just disintegrates.


I would disagree. 
 

it took 13 years for Assad to fall. The end may have came fast, but that doesn’t take away 13 years of staying put (granted w/ help) and surviving. 

 

For Egypt under Mubarak and Iran under the Shah, its closest ally (Obama and Carter, respectively) just step aside and let them fall. Once that happened they lost heart. 
 

The same way Moscow and Tehran just stepped aside in 2024 for Assad, and he lost heart. 
 

There are no rules to these things. 
 

Libya’ Qaddafi was ruled like herd with himself as Shepherd and once he fell. It collapsed easily as there were no strong state like institutions behind the man. 
 

In case of today’ Iran and Russia, I think power is institutionalize. There are a lot powerbrokers, and entrenched interests.

 

I think what you are describing is more possible with North Korea. With government that has leader with a strong cult of personality. 

I don’t know if I am making sense in how I am describing. 

 

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8 hours ago, cubsfan said:

^^^ That's what I mean, if I wasn't clear. Russia is not going to give up that Mediterranean  seaport given that they are captive to Turkey in access to the Mediterranean via the Black Sea.


I don’t think there is a relation between Turkey’ control of access to the Black Sea and the port itself. 
 

The port is Russia’ only major port in “war waters”. and needs to keep it and will likely keep it. 
 

I find it, highly unlikely that Turkey will push for the new regime in Damascus to push out the Russians.
 

That would be too big of step change between Moscow and Ankara. the winner needs to leave something on the table for the other side. 

 

Edit: it is not like there is a “land access” from Russia to the port in Syria, in which case it is a “bypass” to the Strait of Bosporus. The two are independent. 

 

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It's a great analysis, @Xerxes,

 

A near total disaster from the perspective of imperialistic Russia and Putin, a situation evolving quickly, and spinning totally out of his control, which he has been uanable to contain, isolate, handle and steer, because he is already in up to his gills on executing on his imperialistic thoughts, ambitions and dreams elsewhere [Ukraine], caused by he is by now and already maxed out on his warfare capacity.

 

So much for the Russian 'superpower'.

 

Pretty much everything he has done within the last almost three years now has been back-firing at him - dearly - with unintended and unforeseen consequences, negative ripple-effects etc.

 

He will certainly end up in the history books not written yet, but not for what he would like, i.e. beeing a great war lord. Grandpa in his bunker has been a failure beyond repair.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Edit :

 

Bloomberg - Politics [December 9th 2024] : Putin’s Syria Setback Threatens Key Russian Military Bases.

 

Putin, <a few days ago> :  'Let's just bomb the crap out of these terrorists! ...'

Putin, <during the weekend> : 'What??!!' 😳😲

Putin, <this monday> : [adressed at the socalled 'terrorists', called that just a few days ago] : 'We need to have some serious talks!'.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

The entertainment value is pretty hard to match! 🎯🎳😎😅

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7 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

Putin, <a few days ago> :  'Let's just bomb the crap out of these terrorists! ...'

Putin, <during the weekend> : 'What??!!' 😳😲

Putin, <this monday> : [adressed at the socalled 'terrorists'] : 'We need to have some serious talks!'.


thanks John. 
 

I think though the word “terrorist” was not used on Monday. While it was used just few days ago. 

 

Much like the West, Kremlin makes great strategic use of the word. 

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20 hours ago, Xerxes said:

thanks John. 
 

I think though the word “terrorist” was not used on Monday. While it was used just few days ago. 

 

Much like the West, Kremlin makes great strategic use of the word. 

 

Yes, @Xerxes,

 

And : Reuters [December 10th 2024] : Satellite imagery shows Russian navy ships anchored off Syrian coast.

 

The least we should and would expect of the Russian navy to do, so there is no risk they end up on the wrong hands. What else do with those ships to make them useful and beneficial in the war with Ukraine?

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3 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Yes, @Xerxes,

 

And : Reuters [December 10th 2024] : Satellite imagery shows Russian navy ships anchored off Syrian coast.

 

The least we should and would expect of the Russian navy to do, so there is no risk they end up on the wrong hands. What else do with those ships to make them useful and beneficial in the war with Ukraine?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/09/22/the-kremlin-pulled-sailors-off-the-decrepit-aircraft-carrier-admiral-kuznetsov-and-sent-them-to-fight-and-die-in-ukraine/

 

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Thank you for sharing, @Pelagic,

 

That story reads to me personallly somewhat tragic [for the crew on that carrier] and pathetic. It seems those ships now just lay there on the waters outside the harbour of Tartous like some lame ducks, or rubber ducks. Mind provoking to me personally.

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1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Yes, @Xerxes,

 

And : Reuters [December 10th 2024] : Satellite imagery shows Russian navy ships anchored off Syrian coast.

 

The least we should and would expect of the Russian navy to do, so there is no risk they end up on the wrong hands. What else do with those ships to make them useful and beneficial in the war with Ukraine?


The Russians are doing the same thing I do with my car on a heavy snow day, when I have to move it a bit further. If not the snowplow rebellious crew may make good on their threat to tow my car if left there.  

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North Korean attack. Reminds me of WW2 footage from the eastern front:

No vehicles , no artillery support (as far as I can tell), no camouflage even, open field…

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

North Korean attack. Reminds me of WW2 footage from the eastern front:

No vehicles , no artillery support (as far as I can tell), no camouflage even, open field…

 

 

What the hell kind of attack is that?  It looks more like target practice.  North Korea might be doing more damage to their reputation as a credible military threat than anything by showing how woefully unprepared and unskilled they are.

Posted
6 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

What the hell kind of attack is that?  It looks more like target practice.  North Korea might be doing more damage to their reputation as a credible military threat than anything by showing how woefully unprepared and unskilled they are.

Just my guess, but they do as they are told. They probably have a Russian commander who doesn’t give a damn and spends them as he sees fit. He probably got the message from above  that he has more supplies for the meatgrinder coming if the current batch is gone.

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6 hours ago, dwy000 said:

... North Korea might be doing more damage to their reputation as a credible military threat than anything by showing how woefully unprepared and unskilled they are.

 

@dwy000,

 

Please, take it easy.

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I said it for some time, but there is a covert war going on in Europe:

https://www.csce.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Spotlight-on-the-Shadow-War-Website.pdf

 

Asssinations, GPS jamming , infrastructure attacks, election interference, cyberattacks. The cut of the fiber optics cable in the baltics see didn’t made it on the list yet, as the cutoff date was November 2024.

 

FWIW, WW1 started for lesser reasons than those above . Those who think there can be peace with Putin in charge need to think again. It’s not just about Ukraine.  Europe is in a covert war with Russia.

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Am I the only one who thinks that the Chinese property bubble is actually worse than it's been portrayed? I haven't looked too hard at the details and it seems difficult to get good numbers, but it simply seems staggering to me. It's incredible that these developers got away with building entire "ghost cities."

 

I mean my god...

 

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I was curious if anyone had any special economic insight on this mess.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

I was curious if anyone had any special economic insight on this mess.

I don't know about insight, but if sh*t like that happened like that in the U.S., tons of companies would be bankrupt, and the relevant resources reallocated.  Yeah, it would be a lot of short-term pain, but things typically recover quicker.  The property situation in China has a lot of similarities to the Japanese Lost Decades right now.  Maybe the Chinese government will eventually realize something bigger needs to be done, and it looks like it's slowly moving in that direction, but it feels like they're still sucking their thumb.  I guess without fixed time-duration election cycles, they can afford to take their time waffling about.  Though that seems to have some negative feedback loop through random violence:

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/china-races-to-squelch-unrest-as-signs-of-economic-malaise-spread-a2b10065

"China Races to Squelch Unrest as Signs of Economic Malaise Spread
Knife:

attacks and car rammings have officials unnerved about widespread societal discontent"

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When I look at pictures of these massive ghost cities, they also seem like they were built in remote and terrible places. You see these huge skyscrapers that have the capacity for thousands, but yet there is no infrastructure in sight. I'm talking about the basic things like roads, grocery outlets, and the additional items people need to survive. This is especially concerning considering the amount of people they planned on living in these places.

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Some pointed the finger at the government of China, which they speculate mandated the apparent censorship for reasons unknown. "It is quite unfortunate that they put so much dev effort into making good jiggles but CCP cucked them," yet another redditor contributed, which isn't the most incisive bit of analysis I've ever read, but is pretty funny.

 

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/gooner-9-11-averted-as-zenless-zone-zeros-butt-obfuscation-technology-is-rolled-back-in-the-face-of-horny-outrage/

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