Liberty Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 How about we bailout states but also give the same amount of money to every other state? If they want to use it for healthcare or some other reason, it's up to each one. It's not a bailout. It's what countries do when there's natural disasters. This isn't charity. These places contribute to the federal government, it's their money, their government too. Should everyone get FEMA help when Florida gets hit? When there's floods in the midwest? Do Mississippi and New York pay the same amount to the federal government?
Liberty Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 you have to be really ignorant to be oblivious to this. Anyone who says that just sounds jealous that he gets laid because he has fame and money (and you don't, so you feel some need to take him down). Child. I have to be really ignorant to disagree with you? Just jealous? Oh yeah, fame and money just attract these accusations... Gates, Buffett, famous and far richer. So many women coming forward against them too, no?
dwy000 Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 you have to be really ignorant to be oblivious to this. Anyone who says that just sounds jealous that he gets laid because he has fame and money (and you don't, so you feel some need to take him down). Child. I have to be really ignorant to disagree with you? Just jealous? Oh yeah, fame and money just attract these accusations... Gates, Buffett, famous and far richer. So many women coming forward against them too, no? Why would he need to when he is in such a loving, committed, close knit marriage? Donald and Melania are inseparable and monogamous for life.
RichardGibbons Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Child. I have to be really ignorant to disagree with you? Just jealous? Oh yeah, fame and money just attract these accusations... Gates, Buffett, famous and far richer. So many women coming forward against them too, no? Really, it's just shameful, so embarrassing. I'm baffled that people would make such ridiculous arguments. If someone wants to defend Trump, why don't they actually make arguments that are at least somewhat credible? He's done some good stuff, so why on earth would they make stupid arguments that don't stand up at all? I mean, there's a reason that they support him, right? So why don't they talk about the good, solid reasons they have for supporting him rather than tossing out all this stuff that nobody with an ounce of brains would believe?
Gregmal Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot. Liberty I know this is 2020 and all, but Twitter links arent facts either. Nor are the tweets themselves.
Liberty Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 To really hammer the point home about how ludicrous the idea is, envision you are trump and have his personality. Think long and hard about it, and the ego. Do you really think someone like that would say they need to assault a women to get laid? This would be a total contradiction to the personality. Requiring assault to get laid is an admission you couldn't do it on your own...this is a total contradiction to Trumps talk-track...he would never "brag about assaulting women". He would brag about getting laid (consensually) because of who he is (fame/wealth/personality)...those who don't see this are failing an iq test or just simply blinded by jealousy. btw, you're also totally misreading this part too. It's about power. He's saying, I can do whatever I want, they let me do it, I kiss them, I grab them. Don't you wish you could just do it too? I have access to all these beautiful women because I'm famous and wealthy, the normal rules don't apply to me. You can't do that, but I can. That's what he was bragging about. He wasn't saying I tie them up in dark alleys with a ski mask and then run away, that would be a low status thing. What he bragged about was high status assault, and in his mind it's not assault, it's just a normal privilege of being him, because he's so dazzling all women he meet must deep down want it (despite him looking like a Costco-size sack of potatoes). He's more or the Roger Ailes or Bill O'Reilley school of sexual misconduct, if you will. I'm famous and powerful, I can get them to do what I want. Like Harvey Weinstein, too. It worked really well in the pre-internet era because Trump's friend in the tabloid could buy the stories, have them sign NDAs, and then never publish. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/12/national-enquirer-trump-payments-david-pecker-catch-and-kill https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/16/media/trump-catch-and-kill/index.html https://www.newsweek.com/national-enquirer-60-trump-damaging-stories-ronan-farrow-catch-kill-1467445
Liberty Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Liberty I know this is 2020 and all, but Twitter links arent facts either. Nor are the tweets themselves. Only things engraved in stone tablets count, right? Because it's the medium that matters, not what is written, if it makes sense, and who said it and what the original source is and the fact that it can be verified elsewhere, right? I mean, I thought you'd like that I also enjoy Trump's favorite medium and source of information. ...as you write this on an internet forum, much higher in the hierarchy.. ::)
Gregmal Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Liberty I know this is 2020 and all, but Twitter links arent facts either. Nor are the tweets themselves. Only things engraved in stone tablets count, right? Because it's the medium that matters, not what is written, if it makes sense, and who said it and what the original source is and the fact that it can be verified elsewhere, right? I mean, I thought you'd like that I also enjoy Trump's favorite medium and source of information. ...as you write this on an internet forum, much higher in the hierarchy.. ::) Im not saying or disputing any of that. Just pointing out the irony of telling a guy to bring facts when the bulk of the stuff you post are Twitter links and opinions or skewed interpretations from biased people. An indirect way of giving legitimacy to you own opinion(unless you feel different then the messages displayed in what you post).
Liberty Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Im not saying or disputing any of that. Just pointing out the irony of telling a guy to bring facts when the bulk of the stuff you post are Twitter links and opinions or skewed interpretations from biased people. An indirect way of giving legitimacy to you own opinion(unless you feel different then the messages displayed in what you post). If you or him have anything specific to say about anything that I write, say that. Now you're just like him and not saying anything at all. Some of you guys act like analysis shouldn't exist, while at the same time spending your days analyzing companies and markets based on incomplete information and pattern-matching and your experience. Make up your mind.
Gregmal Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Thats not what Im saying at all. Posting an opinion from someone on Twitter isn't a fact. Thats all. Frankly, Ive always been of the opinion that the majority of people on Twitter are total losers. Specifically ones that sit around all day commenting on stupid shit like memes and raising controversies that dont really have any purpose, POTUS 45 would be the grandest example of this, but 95% of Twitter users fall into this category. Its a way for little people to feel important. Very, very self inflating being able to # and tweet @ important people like celebrities and media personalities too; a cheap lotto ticket shot at your 15 minutes of fame. On a separate note, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/sweden-says-coronavirus-cases-likely-country-early-november/ But hey, IT NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVA, coulda been in California or NY in January or February....
Casey Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Just because some internet clowns paid 25$ for a COBF membership doesn't mean you have to argue with them for 100 pages. <pig in the mud quote>
LC Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Out of respect for Greg and in the name of true journalism, I'll only be posting twitter links now :D Apparently coronavirus was present in France in December: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-looks-into-suspected-coronavirus-case-dating-back-to-december/ Cohen said his patient was one of 24 who were hospitalized for pneumonia in December and January in two hospitals in the Paris region — Jean-Verdier in Bondy and Avicenne in Bobigny — and whom his team decided to retroactively test for COVID-19. Cohen said his team carried out so-called PCR tests on the patients at the time to detect the presence of the flu or other viruses. The team recently decided to test the patients’ samples to detect COVID-19. “Out of 24 patients, we got one that tested positive for COVID-19 on December 27, when he was hospitalized at Jean-Verdier,” Cohen told BFM TV.
rb Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 How about we bailout states but also give the same amount of money to every other state? If they want to use it for healthcare or some other reason, it's up to each one. So let me get this straight. The states that pay more than the receive (let's call them the makers) tend to be large and blue. The states that pay less than they receive tend to be small and red (let's call them the takers). The makers are more affected by this because it turns out that density matters in how a virus spreads. But the makers and the takers should get the same amount on money. Moreover the takers should get a lot more per capita because they are smaller. In addition the takers who don't need the money for health care because they have low density should feel free to spend the money on whatever they want i.e tax cuts (preferably on the rich) as is their custom. Did I get this one right? But please feel free to lecture me more about corruption, China and the fisting of the common man.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 How about we bailout states but also give the same amount of money to every other state? If they want to use it for healthcare or some other reason, it's up to each one. You have a deal as long as, going forward, California collectively pays to the Federal government the same amount in tax as the smallest state pays. Okay, I'll go back to raking California's forest for now.
Dalal.Holdings Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 How about we bailout states but also give the same amount of money to every other state? If they want to use it for healthcare or some other reason, it's up to each one. So let me get this straight. The states that pay more than the receive (let's call them the makers) tend to be large and blue. The states that pay less than they receive tend to be small and red (let's call them the takers). The makers are more affected by this because it turns out that density matters in how a virus spreads. But the makers and the takers should get the same amount on money. Moreover the takers should get a lot more per capita because they are smaller. In addition the takers who don't need the money for health care because they have low density should feel free to spend the money on whatever they want i.e tax cuts (preferably on the rich) as is their custom. Did I get this one right? But please feel free to lecture me more about corruption, China and the fisting of the common man. The Trump supporters claim they are against welfare and food stamps. That's not true when it comes to themselves. They come up with all sorts of excuses to get welfare/handouts for themselves, they just call it by a different name to preserve their pride. The red states routinely take in more from high GDP blue states, they can't face that reality though. Let's not forget the GOP's favorite handout--farm "subsidies". What do you call Trump's efforts to bail out the energy sector and subsidize it? Welfare, just not by name. What do you call the massive defense budget/corrupt contractor relationships? More welfare. I will leave aside other Trump welfare programs for his supporters: the trade war and his anti-immigration stances are meant for workers who can't compete in the global economy. Yes, China engages in unfair practices and illegal immigration should be curtailed, but the broader purpose of anti-globalization and anti-immigration is beyond that--it's also to partially subsidize those who can't compete. Didn't R's use to say "if you want to be successful, just lift yourself up by your bootstraps and work hard, son!" Guess that don't apply anymore.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot. What is a China propaganda bot? Is this one? “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
Gregmal Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Out of respect for Greg and in the name of true journalism, I'll only be posting twitter links now :D Apparently coronavirus was present in France in December: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-looks-into-suspected-coronavirus-case-dating-back-to-december/ Cohen said his patient was one of 24 who were hospitalized for pneumonia in December and January in two hospitals in the Paris region — Jean-Verdier in Bondy and Avicenne in Bobigny — and whom his team decided to retroactively test for COVID-19. Cohen said his team carried out so-called PCR tests on the patients at the time to detect the presence of the flu or other viruses. The team recently decided to test the patients’ samples to detect COVID-19. “Out of 24 patients, we got one that tested positive for COVID-19 on December 27, when he was hospitalized at Jean-Verdier,” Cohen told BFM TV. Of course this will be ignored by all the blabbermouths who attacked folks for bringing up such possibilities....Because gosh darn, it took away from our zombie apocalypse narrative...
orthopa Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Out of respect for Greg and in the name of true journalism, I'll only be posting twitter links now :D Apparently coronavirus was present in France in December: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-looks-into-suspected-coronavirus-case-dating-back-to-december/ Cohen said his patient was one of 24 who were hospitalized for pneumonia in December and January in two hospitals in the Paris region — Jean-Verdier in Bondy and Avicenne in Bobigny — and whom his team decided to retroactively test for COVID-19. Cohen said his team carried out so-called PCR tests on the patients at the time to detect the presence of the flu or other viruses. The team recently decided to test the patients’ samples to detect COVID-19. “Out of 24 patients, we got one that tested positive for COVID-19 on December 27, when he was hospitalized at Jean-Verdier,” Cohen told BFM TV. Of course this will be ignored by all the blabbermouths who attacked folks for bringing up such possibilities....Because gosh darn, it took away from our zombie apocalypse narrative... I didnt see it either. ;) Ive been busy over redigging the holes to move the goal posts to retroactively prove what antibodies and these stories have told us. ::) Looking back in the thread I took some pretty good heat for this. Im for one glad this info keeps coming out. Good to see.
cobafdek Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Bots, as well as anti-Trumpers deep in TDS, can't recognize negotiation tactics and diplomacy. Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot. What is a China propaganda bot? Is this one? “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” If you have to ask, you've failed the Turing test.
Gregmal Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Out of respect for Greg and in the name of true journalism, I'll only be posting twitter links now :D Apparently coronavirus was present in France in December: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-looks-into-suspected-coronavirus-case-dating-back-to-december/ Cohen said his patient was one of 24 who were hospitalized for pneumonia in December and January in two hospitals in the Paris region — Jean-Verdier in Bondy and Avicenne in Bobigny — and whom his team decided to retroactively test for COVID-19. Cohen said his team carried out so-called PCR tests on the patients at the time to detect the presence of the flu or other viruses. The team recently decided to test the patients’ samples to detect COVID-19. “Out of 24 patients, we got one that tested positive for COVID-19 on December 27, when he was hospitalized at Jean-Verdier,” Cohen told BFM TV. Of course this will be ignored by all the blabbermouths who attacked folks for bringing up such possibilities....Because gosh darn, it took away from our zombie apocalypse narrative... I didnt see it either. ;) Ive been busy over redigging the holes to move the goal posts to retroactively prove what antibodies and these stories have told us. ::) Looking back in the thread I took some pretty good heat for this. Im for one glad this info keeps coming out. Good to see. Yea, the way its shaping up, the ones who proclaimed themselves right about everything after like 2-3 days are going to end up having been wrong about literally everything.... ironic.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Bots, as well as anti-Trumpers deep in TDS, can't recognize negotiation tactics and diplomacy. Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot. What is a China propaganda bot? Is this one? “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” If you have to ask, you've failed the Turing test. What ever happened to 'infidels'? What's up with the newfangled name calling? Such clever propaganda -- all criticisms are just lies from the infidels. You are falling for it head over heels.
RichardGibbons Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 I didnt see it either. ;) Ive been busy over redigging the holes to move the goal posts to retroactively prove what antibodies and these stories have told us. ::) Looking back in the thread I took some pretty good heat for this. Im for one glad this info keeps coming out. Good to see. You've been proven wrong, and still won't acknowledge it. It's pretty clear that only data that supports your old arguments matter to you.
Dalal.Holdings Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 Bots, as well as anti-Trumpers deep in TDS, can't recognize negotiation tactics and diplomacy. Chinese propaganda bots have infected CoBF. Examples: If you have any facts to share on COVID19 or the response to the crisis, go for it. Otherwise, you're the Trump propaganda bot. What is a China propaganda bot? Is this one? “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” If you have to ask, you've failed the Turing test. What ever happened to 'infidels'? What's up with the newfangled name calling? Such clever propaganda -- all criticisms are just lies from the infidels. You are falling for it head over heels. Yes, anyone who disagrees with them is a 'bot', 'traitor', 'not a patriot', etc. Yet they're the ones who want to deny states suffering from crisis aid and they're the ones who put a sociopath in office that will "destroy the system". They came over from the politics section section because they can't stand by while their dear leader is criticized for his terrible management of the pandemic! Sunk cost fallacy! Trump bag holders...
Guest Posted May 5, 2020 Posted May 5, 2020 How about we bailout states but also give the same amount of money to every other state? If they want to use it for healthcare or some other reason, it's up to each one. You have a deal as long as, going forward, California collectively pays to the Federal government the same amount in tax as the smallest state pays. Okay, I'll go back to raking California's forest for now. Sure but only if they'll jack up interest rates and stop bailing out the stock market and we'll see how dynamic CA's economy really is. ;)
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