Cigarbutt Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 When the news tells us that another perfectly healthy person has died of COVID-19, how can we be comfortable that the reporting is accurate? One-Third of Adults with Diabetes Still Don’t Know They Have It https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/one-third-adults-diabetes-still-dont-know-they-have-it About 2.8 percent of U.S. adults — one-third of those with diabetes — still don’t know they have it. And what percentage of infected US adults are being killed by COVID-19? A lot of comments here about the virus and the political host but very little about the physiological hosts. If interested in more recent data: https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/pdfs/data/statistics/national-diabetes-statistics-report.pdf See pages 4, 5 and 7. The percentage of undiagnosed diabetes has trended lower but the trend of the absolute numbers should be absolutely worrisome unless you hold shares of insulin manufacturers. If a virus thinks, the figure three shows the evolving opportunity map. -----) back to political bickering
cubsfan Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 This looks like a bi-partisan effort: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/491119-momentum-grows-to-change-medical-supply-chain-from-china Calls are growing for the U.S. to reduce its dependence on China for key medicines and supplies as Americans face widespread shortages in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. While the U.S. supply chain's heavy reliance on China for medical manufacturing has been glaringly apparent for roughly two decades, both lawmakers and administration officials say the virus has exposed just how vulnerable the country is as it leans on Beijing and other nations to help provide the tools necessary to combat the pathogen. In a further sign of how vulnerable the U.S. is, more than 50 countries including the U.K. and India have imposed some sort of export ban on essential medicines amid the pandemic.
ERICOPOLY Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 You get to suck on that for a while. Here it comes... Americans are on to your pettiness and vitriol. Sorry about the Kafka nightmare for you...you just hate it when it gets turned around to you. Why are you so angry?
Spekulatius Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 The WH briefing are an example on how not to run meetings. Endless blabber, off topic excursions (often fueled by off topic questions). How many times did Trump say, “we have got to go back to work”. Whats up with his medical advice telling the doctors to “try chloroquine! “. Add a in a lot of advertisement for himself. It’s quite something to watch. He really needs to be coached on this, because it is embarrassing (imo). It’s a rating hit for sure, but in a good way?
cwericb Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 "Bronx Zoo tiger tests positive for coronavirus " A 4-year-old Malayan tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for the COVID-19 bug after developing a dry cough, the Wildlife Conservation Society said in a statement Sunday.
cubsfan Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 The WH briefing are an example on how not to run meetings. Endless blabber, off topic excursions (often fueled by off topic questions). How many times did Trump say, “we have got to go back to work”. Whats up with his medical advice telling the doctors to “try chloroquine! “. Add a in a lot of advertisement for himself. It’s quite something to watch. He really needs to be coached on this, because it is embarrassing (imo). It’s a rating hit for sure, but in a good way? It's a big hit for the deplorables and irredeemables that voted Trump in - the lowest common denominator of America that are looking for a little hope and inspiration when their lives are at stake. It's a very forgiving crowd the understands someone is making an effort working 24 x 7 to help them. They could care less that he does not have the eloquence of the empty suit snake oil salesman that the last President was.
drzola Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Without tracing what now 300k plus tests in USA? Wtf are they doing their?
cubsfan Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Why are you so angry? Ha - who's angry?! I LOVE this President. He's a blunt instrument for sure. The media and the left have no idea how to deal with him. They always "got him", "its' the end", "another bombshell", blah, blah, blah.. Truth is - he represents mainstream America, who detest the media, political correctness, "America is in decline" routine. I am quite amazed that his poll numbers are at an all time high - but give credit to American's seeing through all your bullshit.
LC Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 the cesspool called NYC Cesspool? That's rich, coming from a Jersey-ite! Jersey...person? No, that can't be right...Jersey....swampthing? ;D ;D In all seriousness, I can't help but love the irony of the haters of NY and CA - essentially hating on 20-25% of the country's productivity! Imagine that - two states making up a quarter of the nation's usefulness! And if you include Texas (mostly black and hispanic, FYI), now you've got 3 states carrying a third of the entire country! I mean, what are the rest of these bums doing!!??? It's gotta be the unemployed neckbeards who are complaining - living in dying coal towns, busy making america great again (from their parent's basement, no doubt). Who else has the time? The folks in NY, CA, and TX are too busy working!
Liberty Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 “ New data from China suggest obesity doubles odds of severe pneumonia from Covid19” “ Overweight/obesity are serious comorbidities for #covid19 that are going to make this disease much more deadly outside cities, in the south and among poorer people. Consider your metabolic health in your risk assessment for you and the people you know.”
ERICOPOLY Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Ha - who's angry?! wait for it... but give credit to American's seeing through all your bullshit.
sundin Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 How will Trump react when the shoe is on the other foot? India Bans All Exports of Virus Drug Often Touted by Trump https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/india-bans-all-exports-of-trump-s-game-changer-virus-drug
cwericb Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 And then there is this... Newsweek 3/24/20 : Cuba Uses 'Wonder Drug' to Fight Coronavirus Around World Despite U.S. Sanctions Cuba has mobilized its medical corps around the world to distribute a new "wonder drug" that officials there say is capable of treating the new coronavirus despite the United States' strict sanctions that continue to pressure the communist-run island. The drug, called Interferon Alpha-2B Recombinant (IFNrec), is jointly developed by scientists from Cuba and China, where the coronavirus COVID-19 disease outbreak first emerged late last year. Already active in China since January, the Cuban Medical Brigades began deploying to dozens of nations, providing personnel and products such as its new anti-viral drug to battle the disease that has exceeded 400,000 confirmed cases across the globe. As of Tuesday, over 100,000 people have recovered from the infection and more than 18,000 have died.
Spekulatius Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 “ New data from China suggest obesity doubles odds of severe pneumonia from Covid19” “ Overweight/obesity are serious comorbidities for #covid19 that are going to make this disease much more deadly outside cities, in the south and among poorer people. Consider your metabolic health in your risk assessment for you and the people you know.” Risk factors are any chronic cardio issues, any lung impairment (Asthma etc.), smoking, vaping, obesity , age >60, being male, any immune system issues and probably a few others. It almost seems to perfectly target republicans voters, especially if they try to get ahead themselves with the herd immunity and don’t take any precautions whatsoever. In any case, it’s not just “older people”. Of course older people tend to compound risk factors which also compounds the risk getting serious complications. My wife treated what seemed a perfect fly health patient in his thirties for CV-19 who most likely got it from vaping (with friends?). Purely anecdotal, I know.
cubsfan Posted April 5, 2020 Posted April 5, 2020 Ha - who's angry?! wait for it... but give credit to American's seeing through all your bullshit. Is this another one of your lame attempts at psychoanalysis ? You, the guy that declared the President with a mental disorder - it's so obvious to you...narcissist personality disorder? The President that doesn't care if hundreds of thousands die, so long as he gets re-elected ? He doesn't give a shit about the country - you figured it out... More of your bullshit once again.
cwericb Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Cubs if you read a little about abnormal psychology you would understand what we are talking about. Or are you like your hero who says he doesn't read. I even tried to explain a few basic facts about Cuba and rather than learn something it just went over your head because it didn't jive with what you thought you knew.
LC Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-prime-minister-admitted-to-hospital-for-coronavirus-tests-11969053 Boris Johnson has been admitted to an NHS hospital in central London for tests 10 days after confirming he had contracted coronavirus. The prime minister, 55, still has persistent symptoms and went on the advice of his doctor, Downing Street said. Sky News understands that Mr Johnson will remain in hospital overnight. His persistent symptoms are understood to include a high temperature.
LC Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 https://theconversation.com/a-small-trial-finds-that-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-effective-for-treating-coronavirus-135484 A small trial finds that hydroxychloroquine is not effective for treating coronavirus I'd encourage a read, it details the previous studies which claimed some efficacy of these drugs and why that may not be an appropriate conclusion to draw.
cubsfan Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 Cubs if you read a little about abnormal psychology you would understand what we are talking about. Or are you like your hero who says he doesn't read. I even tried to explain a few basic facts about Cuba and rather than learn something it just went over your head because it didn't jive with what you thought you knew. Listen bold faced liar, I'm still waiting for you to show me how I hate those poor people in Cuba that live under a regime that has failed them....don't forget... I can see debate is not your strong suit
cwericb Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 I already explained that in a previous post. Did you not see it or just didn't understand what I said. If you want to call people names how about you back it up and show me where I lied. or are you just all mouth?
cubsfan Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 I already explained that in a previous post. Did you not see it or just didn't understand what I said. If you want to call people names how about you back it up and show me where I lied. or are you just all mouth? Here you go bold faced liar: Quote from: cwericb on April 04, 2020, 03:21:02 PM You have already said the poor of Cuba don't deserve help to fight the virus, right. Well there you go. And I said to you: You really don't need to be a boldfaced liar because we disagree on politics. Feel free to show me anything remotely close to your accusation. . I've said the Communist government of Cuba has failed their people for 60 years and the welfare of the people is the responsibility of the Cuban government. So grow up already. Show me where I said ANY SUCH THING
ERICOPOLY Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 More of your bullshit once again. Where does your anger come from?
cubsfan Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 More of your bullshit once again. Where does your anger come from? Ha - Likely from the same place as your patronizing attitude. No?
cwericb Posted April 6, 2020 Posted April 6, 2020 CUBS: I tried to explain that the embargo you support is against the PEOPLE of Cuba not the government they are doing just fine. The embargo is starving the PEOPLE of Cuba - not the government they are doing just fine. The embargo is limiting medicine and equipment to the PEOPLE of Cuba, not the government they are doing just fine. You fully support Trump’s embargo and in doing so you support punishing the PEOPLE of Cuba, not the government they are doing just fine. Got it now Cubs? Probably not, but others do. Now you also say: “I can see debate is not your strong suit” Well Cubs your eloquence and command of language is impressive. Here are just a couple of examples of how you have debated others: “Listen bold faced liar,” To me (regarding the above) “More of your bullshit once again.” to Ericopoly “Are you crazy or what?” and “What the fuck is your problem?” To StubbleJumper “Very funny Mr. Know-it-all...” To RichardGibbons And numerous other brilliant remarks to some of the respected members of this board who it seem to longer respond to your childish posts. I hope you are intelligent enough to be embarrassed.
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