DoddDisciple Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 How accurate do you feel GuruFocus is on lower market cap stocks, particularly F & Z scores? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
investor-man Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I feel like gurufocus is a bit buggy. Check out the "Current" year EV-to-EBITDA for FIATY. It says 5.6 and Yahoo says 2.8. I think Yahoo is closer to correct. I've found and reported bugs to them in the past. They are quick to fix them, but I definitely feel like they could use a full time QA staff. Getting financial data right is pretty tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoddDisciple Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I feel like gurufocus is a bit buggy. Check out the "Current" year EV-to-EBITDA for FIATY. It says 5.6 and Yahoo says 2.8. I think Yahoo is closer to correct. I've found and reported bugs to them in the past. They are quick to fix them, but I definitely feel like they could use a full time QA staff. Getting financial data right is pretty tough. I've looked at them briefly and that's the feeling I got. Screener.co and VI.EU seem somewhat more reliable in this regard. Fiat's a big company too - I wonder what they're using as a data source? They recently rolled on some international offerings, but no free trial and a single $1k+ payment makes me unlikely to try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
writser Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think BAMSEC is still pretty undiscovered. I love it. Bamsec.com That's great. Such a simple idea. I hate scrolling through edgar. Thanks. Agreed, very nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Morris IV Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Morningstar: for quick-look key data, ratios, statements and insider/institutional ownership info (no premium, just free acct). Google/Yahoo Finance: for quotes/chart and news. I like Google's charts more than Yahoo's, but Y!'s overall interface better. EDGAR Value Line: for data/numbers, a sense of sentiment and sometimes the commentary. Gurufocus/Dataroma: for 13F aggregation and ideas. On GF I mostly just peruse the "Guru Bargains" and "Consensus Picks" haystacks for the occasional needle. Somewhat random, but the IAPD (www.adviserinfo.sec.gov). Occasionally I find an obscure money manager mentioned here or with a concentrated position in a stock, and this is where I look them up and try to find how they manage. Sometimes in their ADV they will plainly spell out that they are bottom-up value investors and the criteria they use to select stocks. And best for last - here. Not just for ideas but the collaborative analysis has helped me understand industries, companies and valuation techniques far more than any other resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticdrew Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I think BAMSEC is still pretty undiscovered. I love it. Bamsec.com That's great. Such a simple idea. I hate scrolling through edgar. Thanks. I like the layout by filing type they do. CoBF, gurufocus, valuewalk, valueinvestingnews, google finance, cnbc, seeking alpha for their market currents What do you use gurufocus for mostly? I know it wasn't directed to me but I like the 10 year financials and ratios all on one page. Similar, I like the 10 year financials, various ratios and valuation tools they have as well as a quick showing of guru/insider holdings. Also, like the various screens they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustabound Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 One annoyance for Gurufocus is the data is only for U.S. companies. To access Canadian or International you need a premium membership per area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerbaron Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 One annoyance for Gurufocus is the data is only for U.S. companies. To access Canadian or International you need a premium membership per area. Welcome to Canada, every services is crappier in Canada. Management fees, Financial Website, SEDAR, Shipping Charges, Insider Trading Enforcement. And the list goes on! BeerBaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myth465 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks for the tip will check out Gurufocus for valuation work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilermaker75 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Most of the web sites I use have been mentioned, but I don't think this one has, http://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=111&f=fa_pfcf_low,geo_usa&ft=2&o=company a good free screener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpRaider Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Don't sleep on bloomberg.com either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valueInv Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think BAMSEC is still pretty undiscovered. I love it. Bamsec.com Awesome, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest valueInv Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 One annoyance for Gurufocus is the data is only for U.S. companies. To access Canadian or International you need a premium membership per area. I have the same problem too. Any alternatives to Gurufocus with 10 year data? Free? Low cost? Reasonable cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha231616967560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 One annoyance for Gurufocus is the data is only for U.S. companies. To access Canadian or International you need a premium membership per area. I have the same problem too. Any alternatives to Gurufocus with 10 year data? Free? Low cost? Reasonable cost? The library version of Morningstar has 10 year data and, IMO is a much cleaner interface than Gurufocus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoddDisciple Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Actually, I don't know if anyone has really used Screener.co, but I just found out there is a "view profile" feature that gives you 10 year data for IS and BS items. They're $25 a month for the whole world (and they really mean whole world, there are a lot of Jordan, India, etc. stocks that pop up). They also have a key metrics page for the current point in time. Not as detailed as IB, but $1400 vs $300 is a sizable difference, especially since GuruFocus is lump payment, and Screener.co is monthly, meaning you could probably get by on less if you don't trade frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustabound Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 One annoyance for Gurufocus is the data is only for U.S. companies. To access Canadian or International you need a premium membership per area. I have the same problem too. Any alternatives to Gurufocus with 10 year data? Free? Low cost? Reasonable cost? The library version of Morningstar has 10 year data and, IMO is a much cleaner interface than Gurufocus. Morningstar has 10 years on their valuation tab and a condensed 10 years on their key ratios tab. Does anyone know of Canadian libraries that have an resources? The library in our small town is very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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