Parsad Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Ericopoly called the bottom yesterday. Looks like he was right. Cheers!
Myth465 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Congrats. I thought we had at least another day or so.
Valuebo Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Parsad, give me some love too! I called the bottom when BRK hit $66,50 today, that was insane. I just didn't say it out loud, bad luck. ::)
given2invest Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Things may still go south... Yes, way too early to declare victory. We still have huge economical mess and Europe disaster to sort out.
Smazz Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Calling the bottom already...... i would not put $ on it.
ERICOPOLY Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Things may still go south... If yer not wantin' ta be a scallywag on this fine day, then ye best pass on by...
DCG Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Good call Eric, especially with BAC (at least so far). I bought a bit of BAC common this afternoon...Went up around 16% in the next hour. Still a very small part of my portfolio though. Crazy market though... could easily go back down 500 points again tomorrow. Still have some cash ready, so I'd welcome it.
rogermunibond Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Let's save the back patting on market timing to the "amateurs." Pros buy early and sell early in increments over a period of time. Isn't that what Wilbur said.
Parsad Posted August 9, 2011 Author Posted August 9, 2011 Let's save the back patting on market timing to the "amateurs." Pros buy early and sell early in increments over a period of time. Isn't that what Wilbur said. It's not back-patting, but trying to recognize the psychological aspect that gets manifested in market behavior. Cheers!
enoch01 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Now all we need is the ability to call the top in Gold.
BargainValueHunter Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Two things to watch like a hawk for the rest of the quarter (and at least until Turkey Day): The ECB -and- The SuperCommittee™ The psychology around these two entities will guide the market until @ least Columbus Day.
Santayana Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Treasuries don't seem convinced that we had a bottom. The action on the 10 year is keeping me nervous.
ubuy2wron Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Two things to watch like a hawk for the rest of the quarter (and at least until Turkey Day): The ECB -and- The SuperCommittee™ The psychology around these two entities will guide the market until @ least Columbus Day. I am going to let you in on a little secret the ECB is broke ,done like dinner, heres hoping that the rest of the world helps them out ...I think they are living on Bens swap line right now.
ubuy2wron Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Eric congrats but could you leave just a little money for the rest of us who are not so quick and bright. ;D
ERICOPOLY Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I was fully invested this whole year, but I changed things around to lever up -- selling things like DELL that held up well, down only 10% from where I'd bought. Things I added: 5% of portfolio put into BAC $10 strike calls 17% of portfolio put into BAC 2019 warrants. 34% in AIG 2021 warrants. Yes, die by the sword perhaps.
Grenville Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Treasuries don't seem convinced that we had a bottom. The action on the 10 year is keeping me nervous. Santayana, Good point. The price action on both the 10 year and the 1 to 3 year look worrisome.
vinod1 Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I was fully invested this whole year, but I changed things around to lever up -- selling things like DELL that held up well, down only 10% from where I'd bought. Things I added: 5% of portfolio put into BAC $10 strike calls 17% of portfolio put into BAC 2019 warrants. 34% in AIG 2021 warrants. Yes, die by the sword perhaps. Wow! That is like 200% nominal portfolio exposure on just what you added!! Vinod
given2invest Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I was fully invested this whole year, but I changed things around to lever up -- selling things like DELL that held up well, down only 10% from where I'd bought. Things I added: 5% of portfolio put into BAC $10 strike calls 17% of portfolio put into BAC 2019 warrants. 34% in AIG 2021 warrants. Yes, die by the sword perhaps. You put half your net worth in long dated warrants on 2 levered banks? And here I thought I was gutsy.
ERICOPOLY Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I know, but I've been playing that game for several years. Let's say I lose that 1/2 completely -- it's money I wouldn't have had in the first place. It will still be okay though 8) I put 2/3 of my taxable account in the warrants so that the govt will be cut out of the pie for a good long while. The BAC $10 calls are in my RothIRA where they can be sold tax free. EDIT: I also have 30% in MBI. Then a fair chunk in WFC calls. Oh well, you might not hear from me again after they all go under.
rranjan Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 Eric call was more function - How can market go down after I already made my huge adjustment :) Just kidding. On serious note, it's too early to tell even though I don't hold too much cash. I went into the two big downdays with only 10-12% cash due to buying increamentally for last month or so. Yesterday it was a day for selling cheap to buy cheaper. Again back to 10% cash level and likely to deploy it in next few weeks.
Rabbitisrich Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 There are still a few dispiriting issues like the possibility of EU monetary and fiscal "responsibility", China's fixed investment boom (bubble?), and the declining effects of government funds in the U.S. Of course, all these factors are considered in your purchase price, but factors that you would think the market had to have already discounted end up hitting later.
Rabbitisrich Posted August 9, 2011 Posted August 9, 2011 I also wonder whether the equity markets are incautiously anticipating QE 3.
Valuebo Posted August 11, 2011 Posted August 11, 2011 Tha, we're back! :) I sure didn't expect this volatility to continue, this is crazy.
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