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[Parsad]

5 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

America WAS different, as it required assimilation into American culture.

Citizenship was not simply given away. My mother immigrated from Latin America at 19, she learned to speak perfect english. She worked hard to study to become a citizen.  She is hugely nationalistic from her home country, but she was so proud the day she became an American citizen.

 

She would never carry the flag of her home country in protest of our country, America, that has been so good to her.  Her values of hardwork, meritocracy, love of freedom & liberty, etc, etc - ARE American culture. None of that existed in the country she left - a typical dictatorship.

 

But we have seen in America, when you import millions of foreigners with no plan of assimilation- they will spit in your face, fly the flag of the country they fled - and tell you that you're a racist.

 

The melting pot only works when it is take seriously by both the host & the immigrant.  We have lost that in America.

 

I hope you don't lose it in Britain.

 

Again, bullshit!  There are millions of immigrant Americans, including illegals, who built a life in the U.S. and were very proud to live there...not unlike your mother.  There are also millions of U.S. born citizens who fly the flags of other countries, look to leave their country rather than change it and are no longer proud of what it stands for.  So patriotism isn't necessarily a citizenship thing!  Cheers!

[cubsfan]

16 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Again, bullshit!  There are millions of immigrant Americans, including illegals, who built a life in the U.S. and were very proud to live there...not unlike your mother.  There are also millions of U.S. born citizens who fly the flags of other countries, look to leave their country rather than change it and are no longer proud of what it stands for.  So patriotism isn't necessarily a citizenship thing!  Cheers!

 

Assimilation is the key to the American melting pot. Otherwise you become the Balkans.

[Sweet]

16 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Not true.  UK immigration began in the early 1900's eventually hitting the 17% of current population that was born outside of the UK.  Even the original UK population was an amalgamation of Scandinavian, Roman and Northern tribes.  

 

And if you think immigrants haven't influenced UK culture, then why do you have like six Eastern European news stations, a couple of Al Jazeera stations and a slew of other minority channels.  The number one dish in your country is Chicken Tikka Masala...even ahead of Fish & Chips, Hot Pots and Scotch Eggs!  Cheers!

UK culture and traditions does not begin in the early 1900s.
 

Even then, the immigration that you are referring to was so so tiny that it had no effect on demography.  
 

By the year 1950, the UK was still 99%+ white / British, by 2000 the UK was still 95% British / White.

 

The immigration of early Britain was nearly all from North-West European, and they were completely assimilated.  And even then some of that immigration was terrible, the Vikings in particular were a menace.

[Sweet]

29 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

She would never carry the flag of her home country in protest of our country, America, that has been so good to her.  Her values of hardwork, meritocracy, love of freedom & liberty, etc, etc - ARE American culture. None of that existed in the country she left - a typical dictatorship.

This is one thing that always baffled me.  We have a guy working with us, he came to the country two years.  Lovely person.  But he tells me he is out protesting and flying the Palestinian flag in the city centre each weekend.  Sorry, but why come here to protest.  I would never do that in someone else’s country.  If you aren’t satisfied with the laws and culture -  LEAVE.  We are having more public areas made dog free because Muslims think they dirty - I mean come on.

[Sweet]

29 minutes ago, LC said:

 

 

Detaining citizens for two weeks without access to representation is not due process. Arresting people without reasonable suspicion of committing a crime is also not due process. In fact these examples are the exact opposite of due process, as ruled by courts for decades. I could go on but really, at some point the juice is simply not worth the squeeze.

 

did they get deported?  If not, and they got released, then they did in fact get due process even if it was slower than you would like.  
 

They proved they were citizens.  Not nice for them, but these are the new rules.  I’d be telling citizens to be carrying ID - always.

 

A lot of these people complaining just don’t want deportations and are hiding behind ‘principles’ and ‘due process’ to thwart it when they had little regard for either in the recent past.

Edit - for example, ‘rapist in chief’.  Was he criminally convicted of rape?  You talk about due process, perhaps you could afford some to Trump if those are your ‘principles’.

 

Edited July 22, 2025 by Sweet

[cubsfan]

7 minutes ago, Sweet said:

This is one thing that always baffled me.  We have a guy working with us, he came to the country two years.  Lovely person.  But he tells me he is out protesting and flying the Palestinian flag in the city centre each weekend.  Sorry, but why come here to protest.  I would never do that in someone else’s country.  If you aren’t satisfied with the laws and culture -  LEAVE.  We are having more public areas made dog free because Muslims think they dirty - I mean come on.

 

I can't imagine going to another country as a tourist or temporary visa - and then protesting the host.  What idiotic and disrespectful behavior. If I did such a thing I would expect to have my visa cancelled and to be deported immediately.

[LC]

2 hours ago, Sweet said:

did they get deported?  If not, and they got released, then they did in fact get due process even if it was slower than you would like.  

 

I've provided how the courts have defined "due process".

 

By your logic, Trump never committed a felony because MAGA disagrees with how the courts define "felony"

 

 

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I’d be telling citizens to be carrying ID - always.

 

And we've come full circle:

 

 

And to be clear - I have nothing against deporting illegal immigrants, but why trample on the rights of Americans? How much was Trump granted for ICE/Border control in the tax bill? 150 billion? Surely he can hire more lawyers and judges to do things Constitutionally. 

Edited July 22, 2025 by LC

[LC]

2 hours ago, Sweet said:

Edit - for example, ‘rapist in chief’.  Was he criminally convicted of rape?  You talk about due process, perhaps you could afford some to Trump if those are your ‘principles’.

 

I feel like I am being held to higher standards than federal agents responsible for arresting, detaining, and deporting American citizens

 

Looks to me like the term "Rapist" is appropriate:
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

 

In November 2022, Carroll filed a suit against Trump for battery under the Adult Survivors Act. On May 9, 2023, a New York jury in a civil case found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation against Carroll, but found him not liable for rape. They awarded Carroll US$5 million in damages.^[18] In July 2023, Judge Kaplan stated that the jury had found that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common definition of the word as they had ruled that Trump had forcibly and nonconsensually penetrated Carroll's vagina with his fingers.^[19] New York state's definition at the time defined rape as solely nonconsensual penetration of the vagina by a penis.^[20] A September 2023 partial summary judgment again found Trump liable for defaming Carroll

 

Trump filed a countersuit against Carroll, but the judge dismissed the case and wrote that Carroll's accusation of "rape" is "substantially true".^[80]

 

 

The judge above has ruled that it is not defamation to call Trump a rapist.

 

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Assimilation is the key to the American melting pot. Otherwise you become the Balkans.

 

Canada is far, far from the Balkans.  In fact, based on quality of life, Canada ranks higher than the U.S. in almost every study.  We aren't a melting pot...we support multiculturalism...and it works.  We also don't have a narcissistic, womanizing, pedophile as our leader.  In fact, none of the potential leaders of any of our parties are one...doesn't matter if you are left wing, right wing, or straight up the middle.  I guess that's something that the U.S. definitely has on us!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, Sweet said:

UK culture and traditions does not begin in the early 1900s.
 

Even then, the immigration that you are referring to was so so tiny that it had no effect on demography.  
 

By the year 1950, the UK was still 99%+ white / British, by 2000 the UK was still 95% British / White.

 

The immigration of early Britain was nearly all from North-West European, and they were completely assimilated.  And even then some of that immigration was terrible, the Vikings in particular were a menace.

 

You're not quite accurate on that data:

 

 

Also, the Windsor lineage goes back about 1200 years...so UK culture and traditions began well before the 1900's.  

 

Cheers!

[Parsad]

JFK, RFK and now MLK Jr.  Trump is releasing all the files on left wing heroes for transparency's sake...how about the Epstein files?  Distract, delay, defer...Trump's playbook!  Gandhi is next!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/politics/released-fbi-records-mlk-jr

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, LC said:

 

I feel like I am being held to higher standards than federal agents responsible for arresting, detaining, and deporting American citizens

 

Looks to me like the term "Rapist" is appropriate:
 

 

The judge above has ruled that it is not defamation to call Trump a rapist.

 

Ah yes, the rape that wasn’t a rape by New York’s own definition, but the judge say is was kinda rape.  In a civil trial no less, not even criminal, likely because it couldn’t possibly hold up to a criminal standard.

[Sweet]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

You're not quite accurate on that data:

 

 

Also, the Windsor lineage goes back about 1200 years...so UK culture and traditions began well before the 1900's.  

 

Cheers!

I found the source of your graph and this is what it says:

 

”There have always been episodes of migration to Britain but, as this paper demonstrates, those episodes were small and demographically insignificant until the Second World War.”

 

From the same source:

 

”It has been asserted that 'the basic human stock of England has been settled and relatively homogenous since time immemorial’^[4] but there have always been some movements of people to (and from) Britain.”

 

The Windsor’s were from Hanover - ONE family from the area of North West Europe that nearly all immigrants to the UK came from.

 

The UK was not, until very recently, a multi-cultural or multi-ethnic society.  This is lefty revisionism.

 

Edit - I just checked the ethnicity of these migrants, nearly all were North West European, people’s as close as you can get to being British without being British, and for the most part readily assimilated leave no balkanised enclave.

 

Edited July 22, 2025 by Sweet

[Sweet]

4 hours ago, LC said:

 

I've provided how the courts have defined "due process".

 

By your logic, Trump never committed a felony because MAGA disagrees with how the courts define "felony"

 

 

 

And we've come full circle:

 

 

And to be clear - I have nothing against deporting illegal immigrants, but why trample on the rights of Americans? How much was Trump granted for ICE/Border control in the tax bill? 150 billion? Surely he can hire more lawyers and judges to do things Constitutionally. 

During times of war men are drafted and sent to their deaths in huge numbers.  Stop complaining about the possibility of having to prove your citizenship - ‘ma rights’.

 

 

6 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

I can't imagine going to another country as a tourist or temporary visa - and then protesting the host.  What idiotic and disrespectful behavior. If I did such a thing I would expect to have my visa cancelled and to be deported immediately.

Truly bizarre.  I don’t get it.  I would never presume a Middle East country (where he is from) would share the same values as me.  And I sure as shit wouldn’t go their for a job and then complain about them.

[73 Reds]

12 hours ago, Sweet said:

Is it by the laws we currently have?

 

Asylum laws have been reinterpreted to give people who are obviously economic migrants asylum.

 

Examples in the UK are Muslims claiming they are Christian to escape persecution - when in fact they continue to practice Islam.

Yes; that is why they are called "illegals".

[73 Reds]

6 hours ago, Parsad said:

JFK, RFK and now MLK Jr.  Trump is releasing all the files on left wing heroes for transparency's sake...how about the Epstein files?  Distract, delay, defer...Trump's playbook!  Gandhi is next!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/politics/released-fbi-records-mlk-jr

What is it about Epstein that you and others find so fascinating?  Personally I'd be far more interested to learn more about the others.

Edited July 22, 2025 by 73 Reds
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[Sweet]

28 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Yes; that is why they are called "illegals".

Nah, they can claim asylum and then have a liberal court block deportation for years… or much longer.

[73 Reds]

12 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Nah, they can claim asylum and then have a liberal court block deportation for years… or much longer.

That is but one of many reasons why Trump was elected US President.  Doesn't change the meaning of "illegal" but should be a harbinger of things to come as to the concept of "enforcement".  There should be a simple standard for anyone wishing to enter our (or any) country:  a willingness to honor that country's laws and practices.  Leftists have made a mockery of this standard and waning support is precisely what they deserve.

Edited July 22, 2025 by 73 Reds
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[dwy000]

2 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

What is it about Epstein that you and others find so fascinating?  Personally I'd be far more interested to learn more about the others.

The fact that he's a convicted pedophile and was best friends with our president.  And now the same president who claimed multiple times he would release the Epstein files is twisting himself into knots to avoid doing exactly what he promised. 

[Sweet]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

The fact that he's a convicted pedophile and was best friends with our president.  And now the same president who claimed multiple times he would release the Epstein files is twisting himself into knots to avoid doing exactly what he promised. 

I could be wrong, but if Trump was seriously involved with Epstein I feel like it would have been leaked.  There is no end of people after the guy.

[dwy000]

23 minutes ago, Sweet said:

I could be wrong, but if Trump was seriously involved with Epstein I feel like it would have been leaked.  There is no end of people after the guy.

Well the easiest way to address that would be to release the files.  Exactly as he promised to do. 

[Buckeye]

8 hours ago, Sweet said:

Ah yes, the rape that wasn’t a rape by New York’s own definition, but the judge say is was kinda rape.  In a civil trial no less, not even criminal, likely because it couldn’t possibly hold up to a criminal standard.

Dude, anytime you are trying to parse the difference between what is considered rape what is not considered rape, you’ve probably already lost the argument.  But keep up the good fight for your dear leader.

[Buckeye]

3 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

What is it about Epstein that you and others find so fascinating?  Personally I'd be far more interested to learn more about the others.

Hahahaha. Yea, why are all of you Lefties so obsessed with Epstein?!?! Hahahaha. JFC. The snake has begun to eat its own tail.

[changegonnacome]

Updates: Johnson Shutting Down House Early to Block Epstein Vote

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/22/us/trump-news

 

Hilarious.....so much for transparency and fighting the Deep State........

[cubsfan]

21 minutes ago, Buckeye said:

Dude, anytime you are trying to parse the difference between what is considered rape what is not considered rape, you’ve probably already lost the argument.  But keep up the good fight for your dear leader.

 

Yeah, those that love the Kangaroo court of NYC will believe exactly what they want to believe.  

Everyone in the country knows that trial was a friggin' joke.

 

But, hey, it's all you got to hang your hat on these days!