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[John Hjorth]

Well, it ended up being a nothing burger, diden't it?, because he [the journalist] did not reveal anything untill after the attack in mention.

 

I think he would have been in real deep trouble, if he did.

 

I'm quite sure POTUS has reprimanded it internally, certainly not anyones favorite dish to get such things presented under a press meeting, like POTUS did here.

[dwy000]

4 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Maybe deliberate?

Right?  There are a lot of GOP who would be happy to see Hegseth go down.  

[Gregmal]

7 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Maybe deliberate?

It could be. Last administration there were plenty of traitors doing stuff like that….but guess what? If your entire Campaign 2.0 this time was based on blind loyalty and people whom didn’t make their money in the swamp…it’s on you for letting this happen and having someone infiltrate your operations. If it’s accidental, someone should still be held responsible.

[Gregmal]

11 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

Well, it ended up being a nothing burger, diden't it?, because he [the journalist] did not reveal anything untill after the attack in mention.

 

I think he would have been in real deep trouble, if he did.

 

I'm quite sure POTUS has reprimanded it internally, certainly not anyones favorite dish to get such things presented under a press meeting, like POTUS did here.

Exactly its an amateurish mistake that hints at some incompetency and perhaps procedural unawareness. But it’s over and nothing material happened. Meanwhile over at The NY Times, the propaganda/brainwashing machine is in full force trying to convince people that this is the only thing going on in the world and the single most important event in human history. Like 2/3 of the homepage is dedicated to….one sided analysis of this lol.

Edited March 26, 2025 by Gregmal

[Gregmal]

It’s funny cuz all the usual suspects started foaming at the mouth and doing their thing….meanwhile I read it and my only takeaway was “wow these guys are really focused and committed to keeping oil prices low” lol 

[dwy000]

5 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Exactly its an amateurish mistake that hints at some incompetency and perhaps procedural unawareness. But it’s over and nothing material happened. Meanwhile over at The NY Times, the propaganda/brainwashing machine is in full force trying to convince people that this is the only thing going on in the world and the single most important event in human history. Like 2/3 of the homepage is dedicated to….one sided analysis of this lol.

Oh come on Greg. If this was a Democrat you'd be going rabid. Sharing military plans In advance on an unsecured network of personal devices is as bad as it gets. That nobody got hurt is not a win. 

 

I really don't get why the response has been deny, deflect and downplay. It's made the whole situation worse and is continuing to get worse as the responses get proven as lies. 

 

They need someone to take the bullet for it. The longer this stays in the public eye and the more that comes out, the worse the outcome.  Have Hegseth resign and it all dries up and we move on. 

[Gregmal]

4 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

come on Greg. If this was a Democrat you'd be going rabid. Sharing military plans In advance on an unsecured network of personal devices is as bad as it gets. That nobody got hurt is not a win. 

 

Would I? I was pretty consistent saying Hillary’s “issue” wasn’t a big deal either. 
 

But, on the subject, if this occurred a year ago…you think this dildo at the Atlantic would’ve behaved the same?

Edited March 26, 2025 by Gregmal

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Would I? I was pretty consistent saying Hillary’s “issue” wasn’t a big deal either. 
 

But, on the subject, if this occurred a year ago…you think this dildo at the Atlantic would’ve behaved the same?

The issue is not the dildo at the Atlantic.  That's the distraction and how they got caught. The issue is that they did it in the first place (and who knows what else where they didn't get caught).  

 

The longer it goes and deeper it gets, the worse it's becoming and harder it is to defend.  Someone needs to fall on their sword.  

[Gregmal]

Just now, dwy000 said:

The issue is not the dildo at the Atlantic.  That's the distraction and how they got caught. The issue is that they did it in the first place (and who knows what else where they didn't get caught).  

 

The longer it goes and deeper it gets, the worse it's becoming and harder it is to defend.  Someone needs to fall on their sword.  

I said someone should be accountable. 
 

I also think we need consistency on policy. If media is enemy of the people, this Atlantic guy is enemy number 1 or 2. So they inadvertently emailed sensitive dialogue to the enemy. 

[John Hjorth]

8 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Exactly its an amateurish mistake that hints at some incompetency and perhaps procedural unawareness. But it’s over and nothing material happened. Meanwhile over at The NY Times, the propaganda/brainwashing machine is in full effect trying to convince people that this is the only thing going on in the world and the single most important event in human history. Like 2/3 of the homepage is dedicated to….one sided analysis of this lol.

 

4 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

It’s funny cuz all the usual suspects started foaming at the mouth and doing their thing….meanwhile I read it and my only takeaway was “wow these guys are really focused and committed to keeping oil prices low” lol 

 

It's also about that all kind of sh*t happens on overworked and stressed persons mobile phones, because you cut corners on data discipline and structure, to save time, short term, thinking 'I'll do it correctly the complete and appropriate way later', never getting back to it 'later', because you are overworked.

 

Try to think about and imagine  POTUS as your boss by now, in the cabinet. There is to no doubt he is demanding, very demanding.

[Pelagic]

One takeaway from this Signal group is the US is trying to claim the wrong canal. If the US is going to engage in a maritime counter-insurgency against the Houthis to keep the Red Sea open for commercial shipping then there's a much more compelling case for an ownership stake in the Suez than there is for whatever nonsense they intend with the Panama Canal.

 

Unfortunately I think the administration is being a bit optimistic about their ability to deter the Houthis, even if striking them is fairly popular domestically. They have a lot of low tech options at their disposal that are significantly harder for the US to deal with than the cruise and ballistic missiles Iran has provided them, and in many cases just as or more effective against shipping. There really aren't a lot of good options and bombing them only accomplishes so much. Feels a lot like Clinton's liberal use of Tomahawks during his presidency.

 

[John Hjorth]

Bloomberg - Politics [March 26^th 2025] : Europe Sees Putin Forcing Trump Into a Tough Choice on Ukraine

 

The acticle mentions Putin requiring on behalf of Russia and Russian banks access again to SWIFT at POTUS, after meetings and negotiations in Saudi Arabia ended.

 

Absolutely not for POTUS to decide, in any way. Ohh, well.

 

Just the usual stuff and tactics from Russia. All *BS*, bluffing, etc.

[cwericb]

30 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

 "this Atlantic guy is enemy number 1 or 2".

36 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

"this dildo at the Atlantic"

 

So why refer to the reporter who reported this fiasco in this way? 

 

What has he done wrong? Of all the people involved, why is he the "dildo" in this incident? Did he not do his job? Didn't he withhold the information until after the operation? There are enough idiots involved in this fiasco to blame without blaming the messenger.

 

Why disparage the innocent with the all too typical childish name calling rather than admit this is just more evidence of the  incompetency of the administration?

 

Of course this seems to be the style of the present administration, but surely their supporters don't need to stoop to the same level. It just seems that Trump and his crew have lowered common decency to the point any form of decorum is a thing of the past with this administration and it's supporters. 

 

 

[Spekulatius]

Whiskeyleak Hegseth is also a liar in addition to being dump and an ex? Drug addict. People like this should not have security clearance and this example show why:

I wonder if the folks doing negotiations with Putins KGB team are better. Ukraine emissary Witkoff was in that group chat while in Moskow, meaning he was on a Russian cellphone data line. Or maybe he asked for the Kremlin WiFi password?

 

 

The incompetence of the current administration is something to behold.

Edited March 26, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Gregmal]

3 minutes ago, cwericb said:

 

So why refer to the reporter who reported this fiasco in this way? 

 

What has he done wrong? Of all the people involved, why is he the "dildo" in this incident? Did he not do his job? Didn't he withhold the information until after the operation? There are enough idiots involved in this fiasco to blame without blaming the messenger.

 

Why disparage the innocent with the all too typical childish name calling rather than admit this is just more evidence of the  incompetency of the administration?

 

Of course this seems to be the style of the present administration, but surely their supporters don't need to stoop to the same level. It just seems that Trump and his crew have lowered common decency to the point any form of decorum is a thing of the past with this administration and it's supporters. 

 

 

Well for one I already said my piece and cast blame in multiple places. But for him?
 

He’s a POS journalist with no agenda other than undermining the administration. These people deserve the admonishment 100%. We saw how they played their part covering up so much the last 4 years and now all of a sudden they pretend to be about transparency…please. He enabled the last admin and now wants to undermine this one…nothing else.

 

Ponder this….

 

Washington Post…HUGE deal was made of “not endorsing a candidate”…the crying and screaming and protesting and all that childish bs…why, one must ask? Who cares about an endorsement? Well, these losers REALLY, REALLY, REALLY felt strongly about the endorsement…because they believed it would influence the election! But wait, influence the election? Removing their bullshit verbiage switcharoo let’s call that what it is; election meddling…but wait! That’s rich! Because nobody has been more vocal with the columns and literature and sanctimonious lecturing regarding “election meddling!” And “the evils of trying to influence the election”…than these scumbags…how fuckin rich! 
 

But wait! There’s more! The Wapo decisions was to “stay out” of endorsements and be more neutral! The exact opposite of interfering in the election to appease these pissants. And what do they do? Dishonesty try to gaslight everybody by proclaiming that by NOT endorsing their candidate of choice, and CHOOSING NOBODY! That Wapo was actually “endorsing a candidate”! lol you can’t make this shit up but these people are such world class pieces of shit.

[Gregmal]

18 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Whiskeyleak Hegseth is also a liar in addition to being dump and an ex? Drug addict. People like this should not have security clearance and this example show why:

I wonder if the folks doing negotiations with Putins KGB team are better. Ukraine emissary Witkoff was in that group chat while in Moskow, meaning he was on a Russian cellphone data line. Or maybe he asked for the Kremlin WiFi password?

 

 

The incompetence of the current administration is something to behold.

This is true but I think you guys should save your outrage for when they find drugs in the White House….oh wait….

[dwy000]

16 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Well for one I already said my piece and cast blame in multiple places. But for him?
 

He’s a POS journalist with no agenda other than undermining the administration. These people deserve the admonishment 100%. We saw how they played their part covering up so much the last 4 years and now all of a sudden they pretend to be about transparency…please. He enabled the last admin and now wants to undermine this one…nothing else.

 

Ponder this….

 

Washington Post…HUGE deal was made of “not endorsing a candidate”…the crying and screaming and protesting and all that childish bs…why, one must ask? Who cares about an endorsement? Well, these losers REALLY, REALLY, REALLY felt strongly about the endorsement…because they believed it would influence the election! But wait, influence the election? Removing their bullshit verbiage switcharoo let’s call that what it is; election meddling…but wait! That’s rich! Because nobody has been more vocal with the columns and literature and sanctimonious lecturing regarding “election meddling!” And “the evils of trying to influence the election”…than these scumbags…how fuckin rich! 
 

But wait! There’s more! The Wapo decisions was to “stay out” of endorsements and be more neutral! The exact opposite of interfering in the election to appease these pissants. And what do they do? Dishonesty try to gaslight everybody by proclaiming that by NOT endorsing their candidate of choice, and CHOOSING NOBODY! That Wapo was actually “endorsing a candidate”! lol you can’t make this shit up but these people are such world class pieces of shit.

There's ALWAYS going to be opposing media. Thats their job.  The same arguments can be made daily for Fox News or half of the podcast crew.  Blaming the messenger is always the last resort when the underlying issue is undeniable. Deflect, deflect, deflect. And that goes in both directions. 

Edited March 26, 2025 by dwy000

[Gregmal]

3 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

There's ALWAYS going to be opposing media. Thats their job.  The same arguments can be made daily for Fox News or half of the podcast crew.  Blaming the messenger is always the last resort when the underlying issue is undeniable. Deflect, deflect, deflect. And that goes in both directions. 

Yea so they’re scum…that doesn’t absolve people in government, it just means no one should care how they’re treated. 
 

I would love for full scale accountability in government. I’m all for it. Sadly for some, that means saving their pout parties and disdain for the system for only certain “security breaches” but not others. Keeping calm and quiet and saving their patriotic protests not for when troops die because of neglect and incompetency, but when improper text messages get sent; seeing the perils of “recovered” drug addicts in and around the government, but of course remaining cool as a cucumber when the coke is found….yea…

[cwericb]

11 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Yea so they’re scum…

No, that is just BS. Many are not. How many people in the reporting business do you personally know and are all of them scum. Or do you not know any on a personal level? 

 

If you don't want to believe in a free press, that's your prerogative. Or is it that you just don't believe in the press that does reflect your thinking? 

 

Were it not for the press where would you get much of your information? Sure lots of what we read and see caters to one side or the other, it is a matter of how you assess what you see, read, whatever. 

 

Let me ask you this.

 

You assess this guy as scum. So what do you think he should have done with the information that he received? What do you think he should have done with the information and about how he received it? 

 

Do you think he should have covered it up? I mean this is not a case where he stole someone's personal information. This information was specifically and directly given to him.

[cubsfan]

3 hours ago, dwy000 said:

They need someone to take the bullet for it. The longer this stays in the public eye and the more that comes out, the worse the outcome.  Have Hegseth resign and it all dries up and we move on. 

 

Why would anyone take a bullet for this?

 

General Mark Milley told his Chinese counterpart that he would give the Chinese a "heads up" if Trump thought about attacking China.  For that - Milley should be in Leavenworth.

 

Llyod Austin disappeared for 10 days - leaving no one in charge and not informing the President of his absence. He certainly should have resigned.

 

Both of those losers own the Afghanistan disaster killing 13 Americans and stranding hundreds.

Both should have been fired.

 

Not one faced any consequences. And you want Hegseth to resign over an email?

 

Please....

[dwy000]

25 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Why would anyone take a bullet for this?

 

General Mark Milley told his Chinese counterpart that he would give the Chinese a "heads up" if Trump thought about attacking China.  For that - Milley should be in Leavenworth.

 

Llyod Austin disappeared for 10 days - leaving no one in charge and not informing the President of his absence. He certainly should have resigned.

 

Both of those losers own the Afghanistan disaster killing 13 Americans and stranding hundreds.

Both should have been fired.

 

Not one faced any consequences. And you want Hegseth to resign over an email?

 

Please....

Yes.  The "whataboutism" is straight off of FoxNews. 

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Yes.  The "whataboutism" is straight off of FoxNews. 

 

You must have trouble dealing with actual facts. Talk about deflection.

 

Those were egregious and unforgivable mistakes - talk about dangerous to the country.

 

But you just keep on crying about those email threads.

[Gregmal]

1 hour ago, cwericb said:

f you don't want to believe in a free press, that's your prerogative. Or is it that you just don't believe in the press that does reflect your thinking? 

 

The press is not free if they are beholden to ideology. 90% of the "press" is slaves to a side. Ive said it before, you go to a website...mentioned before NYT, but sub in any one you want...Take the first 20 articles. If 70% of them have the same agenda/slant...let alone 90%, who in their right mind cares what those people are saying?

 

1 hour ago, cwericb said:

Do you think he should have covered it up? I mean this is not a case where he stole someone's personal information. This information was specifically and directly given to him.

He should have handled it the same way he would've if it happened a year or two ago. We know from his character that he wouldn't have gone about it the same way. Asking for consistency isn't too tall an ask.

[Gregmal]

4 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Yes.  The "whataboutism" is straight off of FoxNews. 

No, but the silence then invalidates all the concerned citizens now. If you've* been consistent, I applaud and encourage you to continue. But if your mouth was shut then, and now it's open, or vice versa, you can go fuck yourself because youre part of the problem..

 

 

*I dont mean you individually @dwy000, but generally speaking, the media people, the pundits, and the concerned citizens alike.

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

You must have trouble dealing with actual facts. Talk about deflection.

 

Those were egregious and unforgivable mistakes - talk about dangerous to the country.

 

But you just keep on crying about those email threads.

The facts are that the headd of the DoD shared attack plans on an unsecured app prior to execution.  

 

Whatever happened in the past is a separate discussion and deflection off of.the current issue.

 

Go back and check how Hannity tells you to spin this. It's changing hourly.