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[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

 

What's the specific content of the socalled MOU, that POTUS signed in Versaillles, France? [Plain and simple : I'm so dumb that I appearently can't find it anywhere! lol!]

The setting is so fitting for the occasion as didn’t Germany also signed the treaty of Versailles officially acknowledging their defeat in 1919!  

 

[73 Reds]

2 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Mike [ @cubsfan ], Richard [ @RichardGibbons ], @dwy000 & @73 Reds,

 

I'm just asking here, because I'm confused and a bit lost. What's the discussion basis [source] for these socalled USD 300 billion?

 

What's the specific content of the socalled MOU, that POTUS signed in Versaillles, France? [Plain and simple : I'm so dumb that I appearently can't find it anywhere! lol!]

 

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Edit :

 

The above based what I experienced on miscellaneous TV-cannels and read on various news media yesterday, found this this morning - is this it? :

 

CNN - World [June 17^th 2026] : US releases official agreement with Iran. Read the 14-point text

John, your guess is as good as mine.  People who make assumptions are only arguing their "book" or bias.   Likewise, media jumps to conclusions because that is what they do.

[cubsfan]

You got it right @John Hjorth 

 

According to our buddies on CoBF, the $300B will be handed over by all of Iran's mortal enemies, just so Iran can rebuild their nukes and military - then Iran can start attacking their neighbors again.

 

The brain trust on CoBF strikes again.

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

John, your guess is as good as mine.  People who make assumptions are only arguing their "book" or bias.   Likewise, media jumps to conclusions because that is what they do.

 

Thanks, @73 Reds.

 

So, I have not been the only one. To me, that's a weird and questional public communication strategy about the MOU.

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

You got it right @John Hjorth 

 

According to our buddies on CoBF, the $300B will be handed over by all of Iran's mortal enemies, just so Iran can rebuild their nukes and military - then Iran can start attacking their neighbors again.

 

The brain trust on CoBF strikes again.

 

Thanks Mike [ @cubsfan ],

 

My post was about my fumbling for facts because of the lack of actual, factual and tangible data points, facts.

[cubsfan]

38 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Thanks Mike [ @cubsfan ],

 

My post was about my fumbling for facts because of the lack of actual, factual and tangible data points, facts.

 

Got it John.  Here's some facts:

 

- Iran is bankrupt

- It's military destroyed

- IRGC leadership, many dead

- Iran has no friends in the Gulf

- Finally, the US Military can do anything they wish to Iran for the next several years

 

When one understands that - Europe should be delighted.

Edited 14 hours ago by cubsfan

[Parsad]

9 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Got it John.  Here's some facts:

 

- Iran is bankrupt

- It's military destroyed

- IRGC leadership, many dead

- Iran has no friends in the Gulf

- Finally, the US Military can do anything they wish to Iran for the next several years

 

When one understands that - Europe should be delighted.

 

Some other facts:

 

- Iran is bankrupt...essentially has been for over a decade

- Iran's military is destroyed, but not their drones and soldiers

- IRGC leadership, only half dead

- Iran has no friends in the Gulf, except the United States

- Finally, the US Military can do anything they wish to Iran for the next several years...but they won't because they need the SOH open

 

When one understands that - Iran should be delighted.  Especially with $25B of sanctioned assets returned and $300B in reparation funds!  

 

Art of the Deal!  Art of the Deal!  The best negotiator since Chief Seyseys who sold Manhattan to Peter Minuit for about $24.  Cheers!

[cubsfan]

19 minutes ago, Parsad said:

- Iran has no friends in the Gulf, except the United States

 

Cheers!

 

I love it @Parsad - this is my favorite!

[Buckeye]

I seem to recall someone posting here recently about their concern for the US’s dwindling munitions. This poster was quickly admonished and ridiculed by the local Politics Thread experts/trolls/TWS’s for having this viewpoint. 
 

Welp…turns out Trumpy has the same concerns!  Huh, that’s weird!  I guess Trump will now be ridiculed as well as he has the same viewpoint. Trump must have a case of TDS? Have we heard that argument yet?

 

Trump Invokes Cold War-Era Law to Boost Munitions Production
 

 https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/trump-invokes-cold-war-era-law-to-boost-munitions-production-74a0f37c

“I hereby find that conditions exist which may pose a direct threat to the national defense or its preparedness programs,” Trump wrote in a June 11 memo to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. Trump cited “limited production capacity, fragile supply chains, long-lead dependencies, and related production bottlenecks.”

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Buckeye

[73 Reds]

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

I love it @Parsad - this is my favorite!

Me too - especially the reason WHY Iran has no friends in the Gulf except the US.  Who'da thunk it?  

[LC]

Quote

 

8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be back-blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above-mentioned and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

 

9. Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

 

 

 

So long story short is that Iran will continue to promise not to develop nuclear weapons??

The ONE THING that matters, Trump couldn't deliver. 

 

God damn it's amazing how this US administration royally fucked this up. What a bunch of losers. 

[DooDiligence]

 

 

The shart of the deal

 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by DooDiligence

[ourkid8]

On 6/17/2026 at 2:08 PM, cubsfan said:

 

The Monty Python Black Knight speaks.. @dwy000

 

Ayatollah dead

Half the IRGC leaders dead

Air defenses destroyed

Air Force destroyed

Navy destroyed

Nuclear facilities destroyed

Arms manufacturing destroyed

Currency worthless

Inflation 100%+

 

Iran is in fine shape

Rebound in the currency has started  

 

 

[Spekulatius]

Moscow under attack:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/18/europe/putin-confronts-war-reality?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=most-popular-article-end&tenant_id=trending.en.hybrid-trending
 

Looks like Ukraine has a substantial superiority in drones (slow and low flying and quite cheap ones) and those destroy military targets but also hit the capital city.

[dwy000]

1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

Moscow under attack:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/18/europe/putin-confronts-war-reality?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=most-popular-article-end&tenant_id=trending.en.hybrid-trending
 

Looks like Ukraine has a substantial superiority in drones (slow and low flying and quite cheap ones) and those destroy military targets but also hit the capital city.

Maybe Putin should offer him a couple $bn to come to the table for an MOU.

[Castanza]

On 6/17/2026 at 11:02 AM, Blake Hampton said:

Under the age of 20, I probably spent 18 to 19 of those years living with grandparents.

Where am I going with this?

If there is one thing that I've learned having spent so much time living with older people

 

Explains why you horde cash and are constantly paranoid about financial Armageddon. 

[Fly]

2 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

Moscow under attack:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/18/europe/putin-confronts-war-reality?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=most-popular-article-end&tenant_id=trending.en.hybrid-trending
 

Looks like Ukraine has a substantial superiority in drones (slow and low flying and quite cheap ones) and those destroy military targets but also hit the capital city.

 

Ukrainian defense companies will be great buys when they start to go public. 

[Spekulatius]

52 minutes ago, Fly said:

 

Ukrainian defense companies will be great buys when they start to go public. 

Perhaps. But the lessons already transpire to Europe and the US and likely China as we speak and will be adapted in the respective defense industry and strategy.

 

It has become clear that you can saturate just about any defense system with relative cheap drones.

[Spekulatius]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DZrUGnAIIn5/?igsh=dmoyaTIxN2djYnBy

[DooDiligence]

 

 

[changegonnacome]

We're dealing with people that I think are very rational people, and they were nice to deal with," Mr. Trump said of Iran's current leadership during an event at the G7 summit in France on Tuesday "They were strong people, smart people. … They're not radicalized and they're looking to help their country." 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-goals-iran-war-and-what-hes-saying-now-nuclear-missiles-regime-change/

 

@cubsfan @73 Reds So Donald says the above...what ya think?....for 40+ years the conventional wisdom on Iran has been that they are ideological nut jobs, irrational and a suicidal death cult who dont care about their own people.

 

Now they are rational, nice, not radicalized and just want to help the people in their country! 

 

You guys wanted Trump to shake things up.....he most certainly has re: Iran/US/Israel relations if this is the new party line!

 

[John Hjorth]

3 hours ago, dwy000 said:

Maybe Putin should offer him a couple $bn to come to the table for an MOU.

 

It's Putin, who's refusing to come to the table. Moscow refinery attack was pay-back time for Russia hitting historical monastery in Kyiv a few days ago. Ukraine, please carry on.

 

Next thing is likely POTUS negotiating a MOU with Putin related to the Russian-Ukrainian war without involving Ukraine and Europe, where POTUS accepts that Ukranie and its European supporters shall pay Russia USD 600 billion in war damages, and when Ukraine and European supporters says no, POTUS throws himself  on the floor in a hysterical tantrum.

 

There are rumors among observers of what's going on in Russia, that Elvira Nabiullina now hasen't been seen around for a while [is she removed, terminated?], and that Putins paranoia is progressing.

Edited 57 minutes ago by John Hjorth

[Parsad]

3 hours ago, dwy000 said:

Maybe Putin should offer him a couple $bn to come to the table for an MOU.

 

Nah, cut off the shipping of beluga caviar and vodka...the world would crater tomorrow and give Putin $300B plus Melania!  Cheers!

[John Hjorth]

4 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Nah, cut off the shipping of beluga caviar and vodka...the world would crater tomorrow and give Putin $300B plus Melania!  Cheers!