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[Gregmal]

3 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

 

 

It’s the responsibility of local USPS management.  USPS guidance specifically tells “Postmasters and other managers” to regularly inspect flags, replace worn ones, and ensure they are displayed correctly.  
 

https://news.usps.com/2023/10/19/flag-check/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

https://news.usps.com/2015/05/18/handle-with-care-9/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

I try to look at things as objectively as I can and I’ll admit that I don’t know what is going on in the mind of the branch manager.  Maybe she is just disorganized or inefficient.  I spend time on Memorial Day contemplating its implications.  The condition of those flags and the way they are displayed offends me.  

Yup. But this is where we get the usual business. I guess since it’s a “federal” responsibility, it’s Trumps fault lmfao?
 

When in reality, even if it’s “a federal” thing, what’s that mean? The employees are still most likely New Yorkers, whom live in or close enough to the city to commute daily, with NYC style values. 
 

Further, unlike in Texas, where people are speaking up, I’d gander not more than maybe 10-15% whom see it even have a second thought(you being one of the few), despite obviously significantly higher density, the overwhelming majority just have a disdain for it and are too self absorbed to care otherwise. That’s the NY way.

Edited May 26 by Gregmal

[dwy000]

1 hour ago, Gregmal said:

Yup. But this is where we get the usual business. I guess since it’s a “federal” responsibility, it’s Trumps fault lmfao?
 

When in reality, even if it’s “a federal” thing, what’s that mean? The employees are still most likely New Yorkers, whom live in or close enough to the city to commute daily, with NYC style values. 
 

Further, unlike in Texas, where people are speaking up, I’d gander not more than maybe 10-15% whom see it even have a second thought(you being one of the few), despite obviously significantly higher density, the overwhelming majority just have a disdain for it and are too self absorbed to care otherwise. That’s the NY way.

Another generalization.  You were the one claiming a twisted flag (on federal govt property) was a  reflection that NYers abhor family values.  

[rogermunibond]

Flag disrepair is just a victim of staffing cutbacks.  There was a time when nearly every govt office took the flag down at night and put it back up in the morning.  Now it just sits out 24/7.  Same for those homeowners who lazily put a flag out in front of their house leaving it out in rain, snow, sleet, and wind.

 

Pretty simple, put it out in the day, and take it down at night.

 

 

[cubsfan]

1 minute ago, rogermunibond said:

Flag disrepair is just a victim of staffing cutbacks.  There was a time when nearly every govt office took the flag down at night and put it back up in the morning.  Now it just sits out 24/7.  Same for those homeowners who lazily put a flag out in front of their house leaving it out in rain, snow, sleet, and wind.

 

Pretty simple, put it out in the day, and take it down at night.

 

 

 

Makes sense - you'd think on a special day like Memorial Day more vigilance would be extended to this great symbol - unless, of course, you hate the country.

[changegonnacome]

16 hours ago, Parsad said:

I don't like how he went about doing it, but if Trump had continued bombing and took out infrastructure and chose to hit some civilian infrastructure targets, this would be over last month. 

 

Not true.....the evidence on doubling down against a regime and civilian population via air power alone is not capitulation.....its deepening belligerence and rally around the flag phenomen. 

 

The reason Trump/USA needs to back down here.....is that Iran, as weak as it is, has achieved escalation dominance - the only military option that would truly succeed in changing the fact on the ground is a ground invasion. Which is politically impossible.

 

The blockade of the blockade hurts the US/global economy more than it hurts Iran. Its a matter of pain thresholds - the US/global economies is lower than Iran .

 

Then the other option a resumption of a bombing campaign that expanded out to include Iranian infrastructure would essentially put the whole Gulf's civilian & energy infrastructure on the table (hence the Gulf countries begging for a deal here). Iran was able to hit and in some cases completely destroy all thirteen US bases in the region in Epic Fury (the US was unable to protect its own infrastructure from destruction) - you dont think Iran could take out big FAT targets like desalination plants, energy infrastructure at will?  The reality of an escalated air campaign and/or an escalation to destroying Iranian energy/water/civilian infrastructure - is nobody can tell a plausible story that if we just escalated to those targets that the IRGC/Iranian regime would then throw up its hands and we would be in different place than we are today. The more plausible story on an expanded air campaign is we would be EXACTLY where we are today, negotiating with the IRGC but with the Gulf in ruins and 20% of the world's oil supply impaired for a decade. The R/R is poor on escalation.

 

Escalation dominance isn't about strength - its about making your opponents incremental tactical military options unattractive on a risk-reward & cost basis....its not the same as winning....but it does mean that they are not a defeated party that we can dictate terms to.  You don't negotiate with a party you've defeated. You tell them what they're going to do. We are negotiating with Iran because we can't defeat them in way that is politically conceivable (ground invasion) or doesn't come at an unacceptable cost from Iranian second strikes (i.e. further military escalation to include energy/civilian infrastructure). 

 

 

 

Edited May 26 by changegonnacome

[whiskybravo]

There are 33,000 post office locations nationwide.  That is why it is the responsibility of the local postmaster to determine when a flag is unsuitable to be flown.  Tattered flags should not be flown.  It is extremely disrespectful to fly these torn and tattered flags on Memorial Day. 
 

[Blake Hampton]

WSJ: U.S. Likely Hit Girls’ School Attached to Iranian Military Compound

Hundreds of dead children. But oh no, not one random torn-up flag on Memorial Day.

I'm starting to believe that one of the lingering after-effects of COVID-19 is that it actually eats part of the brain's frontal lobe, but for some reason, it only affects Americans. Of course, I have no scientific evidence to back any of this up. But science is actually fake now, so I should be good.

[whiskybravo]

Caring about dead children and caring about showing basic respect on Memorial Day are not mutually exclusive. People are capable of being concerned about more than one thing at a time.

 

 

[73 Reds]

20 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Well I think Trump is an acquired taste for many people. That's the way it worked for me.

 

The last couple have weeks have been kind of historic whereby the RINOs like Cassidy and Massey have gotten the boot. It's becoming the MAGA party now. I think many republicans are tired of "talkers" and inaction on the part of DC and republicans.  Just do something or get out. Trump is a man of action - like him, tolerate him or hate him.

 

He will never be a DC swamp rat - and that's good enough for me.

Yeah, I've long since grown tired of politicians - all of them.  Whether we come out better or worse, at least some of us are willing to give the alternative a try.  

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, Blake Hampton said:

WSJ: U.S. Likely Hit Girls’ School Attached to Iranian Military Compound

Hundreds of dead children. But oh no, not one random torn-up flag on Memorial Day.

I'm starting to believe that one of the lingering after-effects of COVID-19 is that it actually eats part of the brain's frontal lobe, but for some reason, it only affects Americans. Of course, I have no scientific evidence to back any of this up. But science is actually fake now, so I should be good.

 

War is awful and civilian casualties are worse.

 

I'm sure you understand a government's obligation to do everything they can to protect their citizens.

 

Therefore, you should not give the regime a pass when it decides to use children as human shields. Civilized nations do not allow their military forces to use schools for military purposes.

[whiskybravo]

Thank the board for indulging my concerns.  Just a follow up.  I placed an email with the USPS informing them of the situation. A couple of hours later I received a call from a woman thanking me for raising the matter.  She told me that they are aware of the situation and are awaiting a contractor.  She told me that she would email that contractor again.  If anyone wants I will post a picture when old glory has been restored

[Parsad]

11 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

 

 

It’s the responsibility of local USPS management.  USPS guidance specifically tells “Postmasters and other managers” to regularly inspect flags, replace worn ones, and ensure they are displayed correctly.  
 

https://news.usps.com/2023/10/19/flag-check/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

https://news.usps.com/2015/05/18/handle-with-care-9/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

I try to look at things as objectively as I can and I’ll admit that I don’t know what is going on in the mind of the branch manager.  Maybe she is just disorganized or inefficient.  I spend time on Memorial Day contemplating its implications.  The condition of those flags and the way they are displayed offends me.  

 

I agree with you.  It offends me as a Canadian, let alone an American looking at it.  My question was more in response to Greg's comments, where he attributed it to a welfare state that didn't give a damn...which is equally offensive to me.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

8 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

It's got nothing to do with Trump is a victim.

 

It's hundreds of American citizens that have been wronged via disgusting political prosections. 

 

I wasn't the one that started posting all the bullshit about the Restitution Fund - you did!!

 

 

So you are ok with those destroying the Capitol Building getting restitution?  That's as stupid as race rioters getting restitution!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, rogermunibond said:

Flag disrepair is just a victim of staffing cutbacks.  There was a time when nearly every govt office took the flag down at night and put it back up in the morning.  Now it just sits out 24/7.  Same for those homeowners who lazily put a flag out in front of their house leaving it out in rain, snow, sleet, and wind.

 

Pretty simple, put it out in the day, and take it down at night.

 

 

 

Yup, I agree.  We used to have to put up the Canadian flag and take it down every day on the elementary and high school school flagpoles.  A kid would be assigned or volunteer for the week.  Cheers!

[Gregmal]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

Thank the board for indulging my concerns.  Just a follow up.  I placed an email with the USPS informing them of the situation. A couple of hours later I received a call from a woman thanking me for raising the matter.  She told me that they are aware of the situation and are awaiting a contractor.  She told me that she would email that contractor again.  If anyone wants I will post a picture when old glory has been restored

Welcome to NYC/the big blue city welfare state...we need a contractor to hang a flag? Grade school kids routinely do this task, but in NYC they also probably need to pull permits lmfao. In many other places you would probably even just see random citizens go replace that on their own accord, out of pocket, solely out of some perceived sense of pride. 

[Gregmal]

2 minutes ago, Parsad said:

We used to have to put up the Canadian flag and take it down every day on the elementary and high school school flagpoles.  A kid would be assigned or volunteer for the week.  Cheers!

100% lol. like WTF is wrong with these people?

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Not true.....the evidence on doubling down against a regime and civilian population via air power alone is not capitulation.....its deepening belligerence and rally around the flag phenomen. 

 

The reason Trump/USA needs to back down here.....is that Iran, as weak as it is, has achieved escalation dominance - the only military option that would truly succeed in changing the fact on the ground is a ground invasion. Which is politically impossible.

 

The blockade of the blockade hurts the US/global economy more than it hurts Iran. Its a matter of pain thresholds - the US/global economies is lower than Iran .

 

Then the other option a resumption of a bombing campaign that expanded out to include Iranian infrastructure would essentially put the whole Gulf's civilian & energy infrastructure on the table (hence the Gulf countries begging for a deal here). Iran was able to hit and in some cases completely destroy all thirteen US bases in the region in Epic Fury (the US was unable to protect its own infrastructure from destruction) - you dont think Iran could take out big FAT targets like desalination plants, energy infrastructure at will?  The reality of an escalated air campaign and/or an escalation to destroying Iranian energy/water/civilian infrastructure - is nobody can tell a plausible story that if we just escalated to those targets that the IRGC/Iranian regime would then throw up its hands and we would be in different place than we are today. The more plausible story on an expanded air campaign is we would be EXACTLY where we are today, negotiating with the IRGC but with the Gulf in ruins and 20% of the world's oil supply impaired for a decade. The R/R is poor on escalation.

 

Escalation dominance isn't about strength - its about making your opponents incremental tactical military options unattractive on a risk-reward & cost basis....its not the same as winning....but it does mean that they are not a defeated party that we can dictate terms to.  You don't negotiate with a party you've defeated. You tell them what they're going to do. We are negotiating with Iran because we can't defeat them in way that is politically conceivable (ground invasion) or doesn't come at an unacceptable cost from Iranian second strikes (i.e. further military escalation to include energy/civilian infrastructure). 

 

 

 

 

They are negotiating because they have no support.  The U.S. on it's own would have to make tremendous sacrifices to complete the war...it would not bode well at home.  But since Trump made the mess, he should have followed through, because the world won't get another chance.  The next one will be all out war in the Middle East and probably spread to other parts of the world.  He could have recovered the cost by taking over Iran's energy and the SOH himself...managed by a Gulf coalition.  

 

And I didn't say just bombing...he would have to send in troops in a large scale and there would be civilian casualties.  An unpopular war, but the long-term outcome would be worth it.  

 

We already had a place in plan to deal with Iran, but it was a long-term solution through diplomacy.  That was turned into Obama and Biden funding terrorists and giving Iran hundreds of millions!  It would have worked, but taken years and years.  

 

Precision strikes on some civilian infrastructure, with ground troops advancing on their oil fields and refineries, and Israel helping, they had their shot.  The Gulf Neighbors were crying out to stop...but Trump should have finished it.  Now the same regime with different snake heads are still in control.  This will happen all over again within 15-20 years!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

5 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

100% lol. like WTF is wrong with these people?

 

THESE PEOPLE?  Who exactly are these people?

 

 

Cheers!

 

 

[Parsad]

5 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

There are 33,000 post office locations nationwide.  That is why it is the responsibility of the local postmaster to determine when a flag is unsuitable to be flown.  Tattered flags should not be flown.  It is extremely disrespectful to fly these torn and tattered flags on Memorial Day. 
 

 

That being said, perhaps the manager of this post office was actually making a statement...free speech! 

 

US Post is in tatters, country is in tatters (depending on whether you are MAGA, non-MAGA)...thus American flag is in tatters. 

 

Whisky, go ask that manager and let us know!    Cheers!

[Parsad]

36 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

100% lol. like WTF is wrong with these people?

 

Or do you mean "these people"?  Cheers!

 

[ourkid8]

3 hours ago, cubsfan said:

Therefore, you should not give the regime a pass when it decides to use children as human shields. Civilized nations do not allow their military forces to use schools for military purposes.

Do you just constantly make shit up?- SMH.  You don’t have to regurgitate US /Israel propaganda and a one minute google search would provide you the facts. 

 

The Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary school has been in that exact location for about 10 years. 

Edited May 26 by ourkid8

[Parsad]

14 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

Do you just constantly make shit up?- SMH.  You don’t have to regurgitate US /Israel propaganda and a one minute google search would provide you the facts. 

 

The Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary school has been in that exact location for about 10 years. 

 

https://iranwire.com/en/news/150857-amnesty-international-condemns-governments-use-of-children-in-military-affairs/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/07/iran-young-people-human-chains-power-plants-donald-trump-deadline-looms

 

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202602215486

 

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1599766

 

Just a few of the thousands of examples on the internet...all propaganda I assume.  Houston, we have a problem!  Cheers!

 

 

[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

https://iranwire.com/en/news/150857-amnesty-international-condemns-governments-use-of-children-in-military-affairs/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/07/iran-young-people-human-chains-power-plants-donald-trump-deadline-looms

 

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202602215486

 

 

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1599766

 

Just a few of the thousands of examples on the internet...all propaganda I assume.  Houston, we have a problem!  Cheers!

 

 

He was referring to the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary which US targeted (165+ kids murdered) and was NOT used as a human shield. I was correcting him by saying it has been an elementary school for the last decade. 

Edited May 27 by ourkid8

[LC]

11 hours ago, cubsfan said:

It's hundreds of American citizens that have been wronged via disgusting political prosections. 

 

Law enforcement told them to back up, stand down. They didn't listen. What happened to the MAGA anti-george floyd shitck of obeying LEOs at all times? Benny Hill is back on the radio, boys!

 

 

7 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Tattered flags should not be flown.  It is extremely disrespectful to fly these torn and tattered flags on Memorial Day. 
 

 

The disrespect starts and ends right at the top:

 

 

Quote

 

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

 

(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkin or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

 

 

 

[Gregmal]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

Or do you mean "these people"?  Cheers!

 

LOL I mean it's not an anomaly. Look at the garbage all over the streets. The people loitering. Theft rampant. Weed/cigarette smoke everywhere. Potholes everywhere. Theyre just awful, dont give a shit about nothing but themselves, people. It's the culture there. 

 

Whereas I cant tell you how often Ive seen people, even in other cities, Montreal is the first that comes to mind, whom IDK, can be spotted picking up trash, stopping to help somebody, holding the door, etc. People worldwide arent inherently as bad as NYers. 

Edited May 26 by Gregmal