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Posted
2 hours ago, ICUMD said:

Is Trump going Nuclear?

 

Threatening to wipe out a whole civilisation tonight.  Then tell us how he won during this historic moment?

 

Apparently he can unilaterally launch a nuclear hit without any oversight.  

 

Speaking about terror, Trump terrifies me.

 

Nah, Trump always starts unreasonably extreme with everything then settles for something less extreme and calls it a win.

 

He might do something despicable like carpet bombing, but no nukes imo.

Posted
30 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Haha - but only one country is a terrorist nation, and it's not Israel or the USA!

 

What is a terrorist nation?  One using subterfuge and targeting civilians to achieve their end goals?  Isn't that what the U.S. is doing with Trump's threats last night?  

 

The U.S. has a history of doing some pretty atrocious things, especially through the CIA...I'm not sure the U.S. is any more the moral compass for the world than any other historically dominant nation...Romans, British, Persians, etc.  

 

Cheers!

Posted
43 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

So that would be 2 nuclear power countries using a nuclear bomb to stop a 3rd country from getting a nuclear bomb and threatening to use it on other countries?

 

LOL...that's about right!  Although zero chance of that happening tonight. 

 

It's Trump rhetoric to force Iran's hand and scare the shit out of the rest of the world...contrary to Ourkid8 thinking Iran is about to win this thing like Eli Manning's hail mary/helmet catch throw to beat Tom Brady. 

 

Never have I seen a losing hand of a "pair of twos" more convinced they are about to win with a "straight flush" on the next flip!  Cheers!

Posted
8 minutes ago, Malmqky said:

 

Nah, Trump always starts unreasonably extreme with everything then settles for something less extreme and calls it a win.

 

He might do something despicable like carpet bombing, but no nukes imo.

 

Yup...he probably will risk some criminal charges to take out some infrastructure.  There is zero chance of nukes.  It will probably be over one way or another tonight or later this week. 

 

He may TACO if they are close to getting some negotiations done, or he may drop some more bombs to force negotiation.  But it is unlikely to go much further over the next week or so.  Iran wants to negotiate, but with an end to the war...not just a cease fire.  They get bombed tonight and they will capitulate.  Cheers!

Posted
9 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

What is a terrorist nation?  One using subterfuge and targeting civilians to achieve their end goals?  Isn't that what the U.S. is doing with Trump's threats last night?  

 

The U.S. has a history of doing some pretty atrocious things, especially through the CIA...I'm not sure the U.S. is any more the moral compass for the world than any other historically dominant nation...Romans, British, Persians, etc.  

 

Cheers!

 

You'll have no argument from me about the CIA and the awful things they did to countless foreign governments. No excuses.  And the real eye opener came when Obama/Biden turned the CIA onto their own country.

Posted
1 minute ago, cubsfan said:

 

You'll have no argument from me about the CIA and the awful things they did to countless foreign governments. No excuses.  And the real eye opener came when Obama/Biden turned the CIA onto their own country.

 

Weaponizing the government is not good for anyone...including Trump doing the same.  I'm not sure when these guys will ever learn.  Cheers!

Posted
1 minute ago, Parsad said:

 

Weaponizing the government is not good for anyone...including Trump doing the same.  I'm not sure when these guys will ever learn.  Cheers!

 

We criticize, yet benefit.

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Parsad said:

It's Trump rhetoric to force Iran's hand and scare the shit out of the rest of the world...contrary to Ourkid8 thinking Iran is about to win this thing like Eli Manning's hail mary/helmet catch throw to beat Tom Brady. 

 

Never have I seen a losing hand of a "pair of twos" more convinced they are about to win with a "straight flush" on the next flip!  Cheers!

This also shows how fucked up these anonymous tough guy hardliners in Iran are. Now calling for children to protect power plants! While they hide out in bunkers? It’s clear they finally ran into a bully more invested in tough guy “never back down” rhetoric than they are, with a more potent military. And rather than just admit they’re over their head they keep running their mouths, putting more civilians at risk, and hoping a few deranged liberals and western media outlets will tell the world they’re “winning”…. 
 

 I’m so over this shitshow. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

This also shows how fucked up these anonymous tough guy hardliners in Iran are. Now calling for children to protect power plants! While they hide out in bunkers? It’s clear they finally ran into a bully more invested in tough guy “never back down” rhetoric than they are, with a more potent military. And rather than just admit they’re over their head they keep running their mouths, putting more civilians at risk, and hoping a few deranged liberals and western media outlets will tell the world they’re “winning”…. 
 

 I’m so over this shitshow. 

 

It's the same everywhere...the powerful hide out in bunkers and with bonespurs, while sending their loyal soldiers into battle and use their women and children as human shields.  They are all mostly cowards!  Cheers!

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

This also shows how fucked up these anonymous tough guy hardliners in Iran are. Now calling for children to protect power plants! While they hide out in bunkers? It’s clear they finally ran into a bully more invested in tough guy “never back down” rhetoric than they are, with a more potent military. And rather than just admit they’re over their head they keep running their mouths, putting more civilians at risk, and hoping a few deranged liberals and western media outlets will tell the work they’re “winning”…. 
 

 I’m so over this shitshow. 

The "shitshow" began 40-50 years ago when real news and reporting went away and was replaced by narratives.  When CNN began, it had a Middle East correspondent.  Every day they would replay the same video of a jeep on fire in the West Bank from Israeli gunfire and blame Israel for mistreating the poor Palestinians.  Meanwhile, folks in nearby towns and villages (myself included at times) had lives disrupted and were often forced to sleep in bomb shelters as the result of indiscriminate shelling of Israeli civilian populations from  inside the West Bank.  Were these people suffering?  Of course, but largely from their own corrupt leadership and brainwashing from birth to hate Jews and Israel.  Were there wealthy, productive Arab towns and cities in the heart of Israel?  Absolutely, just as there are today.  But did Western media ever report any of this?  Fat chance.  Did they care?  Not at all.  In fact the liberal narrative was to perpetuate the lies and deceit.  This started the process of emboldening terrorism, which only grew worse as time went by, partly due to an ambivalent Western world that was not affected and paid no attention and partly due to growing Antisemitism which only recently became both commonplace and entirely acceptable.  Thankfully we now have a President who despite his faults, is finally doing something about it.  

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

It's the same everywhere...the powerful hide out in bunkers and with bonespurs, while sending their loyal soldiers into battle and use their women and children as human shields.  They are all mostly cowards!  Cheers!

Sure, but at some point you gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em. These clowns are putting their entire citizen population at risk because apparently they think having a few liberals claiming that as long as they(anonymously of course, because the named ones keep dying) survive, and as long as there’s disruption in the SOH, they’re…..winning? It’s like a boxing match where at some point a ref needs to step in and either convince them to step down, or take them out in a straight jacket.

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Posted
1 minute ago, 73 Reds said:

The "shitshow" began 40-50 years ago when real news and reporting went away and was replaced by narratives.  When CNN began, it had a Middle East correspondent.  Every day they would replay the same video of a jeep on fire in the West Bank from Israeli gunfire and blame Israel for mistreating the poor Palestinians.  Meanwhile, folks in nearby towns and villages (myself included at times) had lives disrupted and were often forced to sleep in bomb shelters as the result of indiscriminate shelling of Israeli civilian populations from  inside the West Bank.  Were these people suffering?  Of course, but largely from their own corrupt leadership and brainwashing from birth to hate Jews and Israel.  Were there wealthy, productive Arab towns and cities in the heart of Israel?  Absolutely, just as there are today.  But did Western media ever report any of this?  Fat chance.  Did they care?  Not at all.  In fact the liberal narrative was to perpetuate the lies and deceit.  This started the process of emboldening terrorism, which only grew worse as time went by, partly due to an ambivalent Western world that was not affected and paid not attention and partly due to growing Antisemitism which only recently became both commonplace and entirely acceptable.  Thankfully we now have a President who despite his faults, is finally doing something about it.  

 

Are you kidding me?  I love it when history is constantly reimagined!

 

First, I'm not sure when the Western World ever accepted terrorism...especially since they were generally the target!  Trying to make peace...sure, they were guilty of that and probably significant gullibility.

 

Second, when has antisemitism EVER diminished?  Ask any Jew.  I have tons of Jewish friends and they would tell you it all goes in cycles and the bigotry and hatred has never stopped.  It rises every time Israel confronts a foe, and diminishes when they stop.  Not sure antisemitism today is even close to the level it was during the McCarthy Era!

 

Cheers!

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Sure, but at some point you gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em. These clowns are putting their entire citizen population at risk because apparently they think having a few liberals claiming that as long as they(anonymously of course, because the named ones keep dying) survive, and as long as there’s disruption in the SOH, they’re…..winning? It’s like a boxing match where at some point a ref needs to step in and either convince them to step down, or take them out in a straight jacket.

 

Well, they are expecting 72 virgins each!  Why should Trump and Epstein have all the fun!  😊  Cheers!

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Are you kidding me?  I love it when history is constantly reimagined!

 

First, I'm not sure when the Western World ever accepted terrorism...especially since they were generally the target!  Trying to make peace...sure, they were guilty of that and probably significant gullibility.

 

Second, when has antisemitism EVER diminished?  Ask any Jew.  I have tons of Jewish friends and they would tell you it all goes in cycles and the bigotry and hatred has never stopped.  It rises every time Israel confronts a foe, and diminishes when they stop.  Not sure antisemitism today is even close to the level it was during the McCarthy Era!

 

Cheers!

 

 

For once, your post does not even warrant a reply.  How sad. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

The "shitshow" began 40-50 years ago when real news and reporting went away and was replaced by narratives.  When CNN began, it had a Middle East correspondent.  Every day they would replay the same video of a jeep on fire in the West Bank from Israeli gunfire and blame Israel for mistreating the poor Palestinians.  Meanwhile, folks in nearby towns and villages (myself included at times) had lives disrupted and were often forced to sleep in bomb shelters as the result of indiscriminate shelling of Israeli civilian populations from  inside the West Bank.  Were these people suffering?  Of course, but largely from their own corrupt leadership and brainwashing from birth to hate Jews and Israel.  Were there wealthy, productive Arab towns and cities in the heart of Israel?  Absolutely, just as there are today.  But did Western media ever report any of this?  Fat chance.  Did they care?  Not at all.  In fact the liberal narrative was to perpetuate the lies and deceit.  This started the process of emboldening terrorism, which only grew worse as time went by, partly due to an ambivalent Western world that was not affected and paid no attention and partly due to growing Antisemitism which only recently became both commonplace and entirely acceptable.  Thankfully we now have a President who despite his faults, is finally doing something about it.  

 

Yup. The Media, UN and many Western leaders disgraced themselves.  The recent growth of anti-semitism since October 7th in the United States has been shocking. I never thought I would see that in our country.  It was bad enough to see it in Europe.

Posted
2 hours ago, Castanza said:

 

🤣 ... don't forget Instagram Hookers and reddit memes

The hooker was correct - Troops are being shipped to the Gulf. The hooker didn’t say anything about whether they will fight or not.

 

You laugh, but the hookers near Ramstein airbase knew about the Desert Shield buildup before it was in the news.  I lived close by going to the University (K- Town) there and had my sources. 😉 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The hooker was correct - Troops are being shipped to the Gulf. The hooker didn’t say anything about whether they will fight or not.

 

You laugh, but the hookers near Ramstein airbase knew about the Desert Shield buildup before it was in the news.  I lived close by going to the University (K- Town) there and had my sources. 😉 

 

I'm not saying you're wrong....there was actionable evidence during 08 as well right? Hookers buying 5 houses etc.....But young men (especially Marines) will say about anything to a hooker if they get to advance a base or two...Some of those tinfoil hat wearing degenerates we see in D.C. also have been correct on a few things....

 

I will say, I'd probably trust a hooker more than Trump right now.

 

Looks like the deadline was just bumped to 17:00 instead of 20:00...I think Trump wants to TACO here, but his personality might get the best of him. Might see some fireworks early...

Posted
5 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Apparently the IRGC thinks they are winning. 

 

They sure don't value human life calling on their 12 year old children to take the place of their army.

 

But what do you expect from a regime that murders 45,000 protestors in a few days.

 

Even the Iranian government itself admitted through official channels that 3,117 people were killed. 

 

Let’s assume their numbers are too low and underreported — fine. The most widely cited independent tracker, HRANA, has verified around 7,000 protester deaths. That’s already horrific. 

 

But jumping straight to 45,000? That figure seems to come mainly from Trump’s recent statements and some Israeli sources. Why rely on those when we have higher but still grounded numbers from groups actually documenting names, dates, and videos from inside Iran?

Posted
23 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The hooker was correct - Troops are being shipped to the Gulf. The hooker didn’t say anything about whether they will fight or not.

 

You laugh, but the hookers near Ramstein airbase knew about the Desert Shield buildup before it was in the news.  I lived close by going to the University (K- Town) there and had my sources. 😉 

 

OK, duly noted, as a Dane, always nosy about stuff! 😄

Posted
4 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Not bad Change!  Iran could have been Dubai with all their wealth and riches.  And yeah, poor Ukraine, let down by the international community, for sure.

 

 

Why don’t you compare Tehran’s Imam Khomeini Airport to any of New York’s major airports? Even some of the top airports in Africa, like Cape Town International, consistently rank higher than JFK, LaGuardia, or Newark in global surveys. 

 

Imagine if that $100 billion wasted in the war had actually gone toward bringing America’s airports and infrastructure up to the level of those ‘third-world’ countries — instead of just matching developed nations."
 

Posted

Ray Dalio again with almost certainly another idiotic macro call:

 

“Ray Dalio says the Iran conflict could evolve into the next world war.”

 

He’s been wrong a thousand times now.

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