73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, cubsfan said: Some things are very simple to understand. Courage to act is one of them,,, but hard to do. It's pathetic seeing the weak leadership around the Western world. Well, if Trump hadn't won, Israel would be going this alone - and likely with the US Govt. clamoring for a cease fire at every turn. Meanwhile Europe would be directly in the cross-hairs and not even know it.
LC Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: Yup. Israel recognized and experienced the threat long before anyone else. Only the US came to help while the rest of the World sat idly by. If Canada, UK or anyone else had bothered to lend a hand, they'd be chanting "Death to [you all] too. But that's what allies do; at least real allies. As for Israel, it always appreciates US assistance and coordinates whatever it does militarily with the US but push comes to shove, it will act with or without anyone's help or permission when survival is at stake. Not a difficult concept to grasp but most people prefer narratives. Only Israel recognized the threat long before anyone else? What?? I guess history is just make-believe when we desperately need to justify ourselves. Same shit, different POTUS I guess.
John Hjorth Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) Mind you, POTUS now ended his ramling press conference today with a comment about 'It's all started with Greenland...' [<-!] <No further comments, so far!> Edited April 6 by John Hjorth
73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 hour ago, LC said: Only Israel recognized the threat long before anyone else? What?? I guess history is just make-believe when we desperately need to justify ourselves. Same shit, different POTUS I guess. Only Israel cared enough to do anything about it. As if "deals" with Iran have ever been worth 2 nickels.
ourkid8 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 3 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Well, if Trump hadn't won, Israel would be going this alone - and likely with the US Govt. clamoring for a cease fire at every turn. Meanwhile Europe would be directly in the cross-hairs and not even know it. Remember when they went at it alone last year, Israel had to beg for a ceasefire - fighting unarmed woman and children is very different. Watch what Iran unveiled this past weekend that brought US to their knees - air superiority? - maybe not!
73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, ourkid8 said: Remember when they went at it alone last year, Israel had to beg for a ceasefire - fighting unarmed woman and children is very different. Watch what Iran unveiled this past weekend that brought US to their knees - air superiority? - maybe not! Israel has never begged for anything. Go back in your hole.
ourkid8 Posted April 6 Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Israel has never begged for anything. Go back in your hole. Arab officials told The Journal that the US has told Arab partners to pass the message to Iran that Israel is looking to end the operation — which it launched 10 days ago — soon. Thank you for your attention to this matter! https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-convey-message-to-iran-it-is-looking-to-end-war-within-days/amp/
73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, ourkid8 said: Arab officials told The Journal that the US has told Arab partners to pass the message to Iran that Israel is looking to end the operation — which it launched 10 days ago — soon. Thank you for your attention to this matter! https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-convey-message-to-iran-it-is-looking-to-end-war-within-days/amp/ There is almost nothing left for Israel to to bomb. You see, only Iran and its proxies intentionally target innocent civilians.
Parsad Posted April 6 Posted April 6 3 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Yup. Israel recognized and experienced the threat long before anyone else. Only the US came to help while the rest of the World sat idly by. If Canada, UK or anyone else had bothered to lend a hand, they'd be chanting "Death to [you all] too. But that's what allies do; at least real allies. As for Israel, it always appreciates US assistance and coordinates whatever it does militarily with the US but push comes to shove, it will act with or without anyone's help or permission when survival is at stake. Not a difficult concept to grasp but most people prefer narratives. I didn't say Israel/Bibi was doing the right thing. Only that they were the ones doing it. In fact, Israel is doing something what I would consider illegal/criminal by the International Criminal Court...probably why they aren't a member of the Rome Statute! Cheers!
73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Parsad said: I didn't say Israel/Bibi was doing the right thing. Only that they were the ones doing it. In fact, Israel is doing something what I would consider illegal/criminal by the International Criminal Court...probably why they aren't a member of the Rome Statute! Cheers! Protecting your country from extermination can never be illegal. Check the so-called laws that they are allegedly violating.
Parsad Posted April 6 Posted April 6 2 hours ago, LC said: Only Israel recognized the threat long before anyone else? What?? I guess history is just make-believe when we desperately need to justify ourselves. Same shit, different POTUS I guess. Yup. When you write the narrative, you believe everything within it! Cheers!
Parsad Posted April 6 Posted April 6 43 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: Remember when they went at it alone last year, Israel had to beg for a ceasefire - fighting unarmed woman and children is very different. Watch what Iran unveiled this past weekend that brought US to their knees - air superiority? - maybe not! You keep talking about this shit like 73Reds and Cubs, but Iran started this whole fucking thing with October 7th! You guys all need to shut up and take a deep look at what the fuck Israel and Iran both have done. Bunch of self-righteous pricks ALL killing innocent women and children! Neither Bibi's administration or the Dear Leader's administration are innocent in any of this dark madness! Blaming allies, those trying to keep peace, those trying to help, those that are trying to end war, rather that start it! Where are the peace-loving Iranians you speak about Ourkid8? Where are the peace-loving Christians Cubs/73Reds? Do you only practice Old Testament or do you actually read the New Testament? Your President prays to Christ/God, hocks bibles like used cars, and is willing to bomb another nation into oblivion. Ourkid8, your Supreme Leader is threatening a holy war and all hell to break loose, while the regime paid off terrorists to rape, murder and butcher dozens of women and children on October 7th in their home. I think most of the board will agree with this sentiment...fuck you all! Rant over! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted April 6 Posted April 6 36 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Wrong continent - that's Europe
73 Reds Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Just now, Parsad said: You keep talking about this shit like 73Reds and Cubs, but Iran started this whole fucking thing with October 7th! You guys all need to shut up and take a deep look at what the fuck Israel and Iran both have done. Bunch of self-righteous pricks ALL killing innocent women and children! Neither Bibi's administration or the Dear Leader's administration are innocent in any of this dark madness! Blaming allies, those trying to keep peace, those trying to help, those that are trying to end war, rather that start it! Where are the peace-loving Iranians you speak about Ourkid8? Where the peace-loving Christians Cubs/73Reds? Do you only practice Old Testament or do you actually read the New Testament? Your President prays to Christ/God, hocks bibles like used cars, and is willing to bomb another nation into oblivion. Ourkid8, your Supreme Leader is threatening a holy war and all hell to break loose, while the regime paid off terrorists to rape, murder and butcher dozens of women and children on October 7th in their home. I think most of the board will agree with this sentiment...fuck you all! Rant over! Cheers! Sanjeev, wake the fuck up. Iran started this decades ago with its terrorist proxies. Israel has been dealing with enemies since the day it was founded and most recently fighting off Iran-funded groups that have one, single objective - the elimination of Israel. Any attempt at moral equivalency of what Israel/Bibi are doing and the atrocities of their neighbors is just plain naive.
Spekulatius Posted April 6 Posted April 6 6 hours ago, Parsad said: It's Israel taking all these guys out! Don't get on the wrong side of Mossad! Cheers! Iran can say that they rejuvenate their leadership.
Spekulatius Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Parsad said: You keep talking about this shit like 73Reds and Cubs, but Iran started this whole fucking thing with October 7th! You guys all need to shut up and take a deep look at what the fuck Israel and Iran both have done. Bunch of self-righteous pricks ALL killing innocent women and children! Neither Bibi's administration or the Dear Leader's administration are innocent in any of this dark madness! Blaming allies, those trying to keep peace, those trying to help, those that are trying to end war, rather that start it! Where are the peace-loving Iranians you speak about Ourkid8? Where are the peace-loving Christians Cubs/73Reds? Do you only practice Old Testament or do you actually read the New Testament? Your President prays to Christ/God, hocks bibles like used cars, and is willing to bomb another nation into oblivion. Ourkid8, your Supreme Leader is threatening a holy war and all hell to break loose, while the regime paid off terrorists to rape, murder and butcher dozens of women and children on October 7th in their home. I think most of the board will agree with this sentiment...fuck you all! Rant over! Cheers! The Old Testament has definitely undergone a revival in recent times. The joke is that JD Vance / MAGA likes everything in the bible unless Jesus is in it. Edited April 6 by Spekulatius
changegonnacome Posted April 6 Posted April 6 19 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: There is almost nothing left for Israel to to bomb. Sure except the one thing you really want to bomb away, you cant actually get at..........which is knowhow and intent. Regime change was the only endstate in Iran that actually 'worked' here because you had to remove the intent which could reactivate the knowhow. The facilities, as much as warrior Pete and Donald want you to believe, are not the problem here. Epic Fury has been a strategic mess, zoom out and there are IMO three MAJOR strategic blunders here, all knowable and within POTUS's control that are hard to forgive especially as IMO if your going to do this you want to do it once and to do it RIGHT! They are: (1) Zero public case-building. They started the only war in my lifetime with NEGATIVE voter support on Day 1 — in a democracy running 24-month election cycles and a public with a very low pain threshold. That's negligent, and it hands your opponent the polling data to persevere through a lot of hardship. (2) In his infinite wisdom Trump decided to launch the attack eight months BEFORE the midterms, before the midterms . Why not wait? This could have started Nov 4th 2026, the day after the midterm election booths closed, with a clean 24 months ahead and a President sitting in the WH not seeking re-election - thats about as perfect a domestic political environment that the US affords POTUS to sidestep the stupid short-termism of the median US voter and Trump didn't take it! Thats dumb. I'm sorry @73 Reds saying Israel was going to do something of this scale or could do something of this without us is not a credible position , it just isn't. (3) No credible ground force threat ready to go in the region if air power alone failed. If you're really going for regime change, you position 200,000+ light and mechanized infantry in theater at least as a credible threat (even if you barely intended to use them). The 45,000 currently there with little equipment (& now with all our bases destroyed) can't do anything resembling Desert Storm and Iran knows that. Trump gambled on regime collapse from airpower alone with no Plan B.
DooDiligence Posted April 6 Posted April 6 It's almost as if you have no friends. That's what happens you shit on everybody. im never the problem.mp4
DooDiligence Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Won't be long before he loses his only friend when he tries to hook up with Kim Jung Un's daughter.
dealraker Posted April 6 Posted April 6 2 hours ago, Parsad said: You keep talking about this shit like 73Reds and Cubs, but Iran started this whole fucking thing with October 7th! You guys all need to shut up and take a deep look at what the fuck Israel and Iran both have done. Bunch of self-righteous pricks ALL killing innocent women and children! Neither Bibi's administration or the Dear Leader's administration are innocent in any of this dark madness! Blaming allies, those trying to keep peace, those trying to help, those that are trying to end war, rather that start it! Where are the peace-loving Iranians you speak about Ourkid8? Where are the peace-loving Christians Cubs/73Reds? Do you only practice Old Testament or do you actually read the New Testament? Your President prays to Christ/God, hocks bibles like used cars, and is willing to bomb another nation into oblivion. Ourkid8, your Supreme Leader is threatening a holy war and all hell to break loose, while the regime paid off terrorists to rape, murder and butcher dozens of women and children on October 7th in their home. I think most of the board will agree with this sentiment...fuck you all! Rant over! Cheers! Am I up to date and on topic?
Red Lion Posted April 6 Posted April 6 52 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: (2) In his infinite wisdom Trump decided to launch the attack eight months BEFORE the midterms, before the midterms . Why not wait? This keeps baffling me as well.
Spekulatius Posted April 6 Posted April 6 I think we get regime change in Trumpistan (aka USA) before regime change in Iran. Praise be to Allah.
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