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[ourkid8]

7 hours ago, Parsad said:

Senior US official has now reached out to Iranians.  TACO'ed!  Let's see what type of deal the U.S. gets here now. 

 

At least all the bullshit is over and we can go back to some sense of normality as oil prices drop and market stability returns.

 

Cheers!

Iran officially has the upper hand as Senior US officials reached out to them.  

 

@cubsfan How does it feel? 

Edited March 24 by ourkid8

[cubsfan]

28 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

Iran officially has the upper hand as Senior US officials reached out to them.  

 

@cubsfan How does it feel? 

 

Kid - I think Trump is shaking in his boots right now.

[DooDiligence]

33 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

Iran officially has the upper hand as Senior US officials reached out to them.  

 

 

It's looking more and more like damn near everybody's gaining the upper hand on Sir Shitshisbritches.

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-global-weakness-watch-how-trump-is-undermining-american-power/

[cubsfan]

19 minutes ago, DooDiligence said:

 

It's looking more and more like damn near everybody's gaining the upper hand on Sir Shitshisbritches.

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-global-weakness-watch-how-trump-is-undermining-american-power/

 

Sure - only Iran has the ability to get the Arab states to join Israel in the fight against Iran.  Imagine how incompetent you have to be to get Muslim countries to join the Jews in the fight against you...ROFL

 

Oh well maybe Russia and China are coming to the rescue!

[John Hjorth]

20 minutes ago, DooDiligence said:

... Sir Shitshisbritches .... 

 

My online translator at ordbogen.com just asked me to get my act together and to add some spaces, or to get out of there! 

 

<John, not any longer welcome at ordbogen.com>

[DooDiligence]

LOL!!!

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5798055-democrat-gregory-flips-florida-house-seat/

[DooDiligence]

Most transparent administration ever. So transparent, you can't even see 'em.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pentagon-will-remove-media-offices-judge-reinstates-new-york-press-cre-rcna264836

[ourkid8]

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Sure - only Iran has the ability to get the Arab states to join Israel in the fight against Iran.  Imagine how incompetent you have to be to get Muslim countries to join the Jews in the fight against you...ROFL

 

Oh well maybe Russia and China are coming to the rescue!

Your lack of understanding of the region/ people continues to amaze me. - I don’t know if it is ignorance or just stupidity! (I am making that comment with all due respect) I guess this is what happens when you continue to listen to Trump / Zionist propaganda.
 

If you spend some time learning about the people / history, you will understand why US / Israel never had a chance right from the start. 
 

I would say even @Xerxes who doesn’t support Iran but understands these are fearless individuals who are not afraid to die. (When you attack Iran you are not only fighting Iran but … ) - I won’t break the surprise! 

Edited March 25 by ourkid8

[whiskybravo]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

I would say even @Xerxes who doesn’t support Iran but understands these are fearless individuals who are not afraid to die. (When you attack Iran you are not only fighting Iran but … ) - I won’t break the surprise! 

Sounds like a good argument not to allow them to obtain nuclear weapons.

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

Your lack of understanding of the region/ people continues to amaze me. - I don’t know if it is ignorance or just stupidity! (I am making that comment with all due respect) I guess this is what happens when you continue to listen to Trump / Zionist propaganda.
 

If you spend some time learning about the people / history, you will understand why US / Israel never had a chance right from the start. 
 

I would say even @Xerxes who doesn’t support Iran but understands these are fearless individuals who are not afraid to die. (When you attack Iran you are not only fighting Iran but … ) - I won’t break the surprise! 

 

Yeah, appreciate it Kid.

 

Not sure I EVER remember a time when the Arabs sided with the Jews to fight their Muslim brothers.

 

So history is being made.

 

I guess that's what happens when a government as arrogant as the Iranian regime decides to wholesale bomb all their Gulf State neighbors for no reason, other than they are pissed off.

 

Boy was that stupid - now Iran is fighting the whole world....

 

Oh well, at least the Taliban is still your friend.

[ourkid8]

30 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Sounds like a good argument not to allow them to obtain nuclear weapons.

In the last 100 years, how many times has Iran started a war? Now let’s look how many times has US/Israel been started a war?  - that answer alone will answer your question. 
 

As I have mentioned numerous times, they do not want nor had any ambition to have a nuclear weapons Their supreme leader had a fatwa and was openly was against it. - Joe Kent confirmed it! 

Edited March 25 by ourkid8

[DooDiligence]

Coupla' putzes here, huh?

 

https://www.armscontrol.org/blog/2026-03-11/us-negotiators-were-ill-prepared-serious-nuclear-negotiations-iran

[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

 

Yeah, appreciate it Kid.

 

Not sure I EVER remember a time when the Arabs sided with the Jews to fight their Muslim brothers.

 

So history is being made.

 

I guess that's what happens when a government as arrogant as the Iranian regime decides to wholesale bomb all their Gulf State neighbors for no reason, other than they are pissed off.

 

Boy was that stupid - now Iran is fighting the whole world....

 

Oh well, at least the Taliban is still your friend.

If you don’t even understand why Iran attacked some of their GCC neighbours, then you really should try to understand what is really going on. As I have mentioned, they are defending themselves under article 51 of the UN charter. 
 

Defending themselves against the whole world and getting US to come to them begging for a ceasefire! - very impressive!!! 

Edited March 25 by ourkid8

[Marco Van Basten]

7 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

In the last 100 years, how many times has Iran started a war? Now let’s look how many times has US/Israel been started a war?  - that answer alone will answer your question. 
 

As I have mentioned numerous times, they do not want nor had any ambition to have a nuclear weapons Their supreme leader had a fatwa and was openly was against it. - Joe Kent confirmed it! 

There is only one reason to have enriched uranium, and that's for a nuclear bomb.  As for starting wars, Iranian government started plenty of wars throughout history.  The only reason that they have not behaved as Iran historically has is because Iran has been weak for the past century.   This current government  blew up Israeli embassy and a Jewish center in Argentina, created Hezbollah in Lebanon which killed hundreds of Americans, backed Shiite militias that killed hundreds of  Americans in Iraq, backed Houthis in Yemen, and backed Assad who killed tens of thousands of people in Syria.  Oh, and tens of thousands of its own people.  But yes, the current government is really peaceful....  And the 400 pounds of enriched uranium and ballistic missiles that can hit London and Paris are needed to solve the water crisis in Teheran!  Ayatollah Homeini stated that it is worth to sacrifice the lives of 200 million  Moslems to wipe out the state of Israel, peaceful regime indeed!    This peaceful regime took Americans hostage in 1979!  

[Viking]

On 3/23/2026 at 11:24 AM, Xerxes said:

The different views and analysis posted here completely ignores the divergent objectives of U.S. and that of Israel. And more importantly the Gulf shiekhdoms as they are stakeholders as well. 

 

U.S. is looking for its “Delcy” and doesn’t want state fracture and chaos.  

 

Israel is arguably looking for state fracture; as the cost of that fracture is borne not by itself but by the Gulf region.

 

The Gulf region wants durable peace as they have moved away from playing the game of thrones. Their focus is economic development, which is now totally upended. 
 

Very different objectives 

@Xerxes, I am slowly coming around to the realization that I do not understand the Persian Gulf/middle east very well. I am trying to get a better handle on Iran - how do they view the war? What are their objectives? What might have changed this time around? 
 

I found the following video interesting. If it is remotely accurate, it looks to me like the war is likely just getting started. And that is not on anyone’s bingo card.
 

Right now everything I read is looking at the conflict through the US/Israeli/arab lens - and completely ignoring the Iran perspective. The implicit assumption is Iran will be the price taker with the US/Israeli’s/arabs being the price setters.
 

I think the West is likely underestimating Iran - its resolve and the amount of leverage it thinks it has (controlling the straight and the ability to take out the critical infrastructure of its neighbours). They view what is going on today as part of a 47 year war. But one in which they need to use new tactics (the old tactics clearly have not worked). The new tactics part is what is not understood (yet) in the West today. 
 

Time will tell. But I am thinking we could see the war escalate this weekend.
 

 

Edited March 25 by Viking

[ourkid8]

32 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said:

There is only one reason to have enriched uranium, and that's for a nuclear bomb.  As for starting wars, Iranian government started plenty of wars throughout history.  The only reason that they have not behaved as Iran historically has is because Iran has been weak for the past century.   This current government  blew up Israeli embassy and a Jewish center in Argentina, created Hezbollah in Lebanon which killed hundreds of Americans, backed Shiite militias that killed hundreds of  Americans in Iraq, backed Houthis in Yemen, and backed Assad who killed tens of thousands of people in Syria.  Oh, and tens of thousands of its own people.  But yes, the current government is really peaceful....  And the 400 pounds of enriched uranium and ballistic missiles that can hit London and Paris are needed to solve the water crisis in Teheran!  Ayatollah Homeini stated that it is worth to sacrifice the lives of 200 million  Moslems to wipe out the state of Israel, peaceful regime indeed!    This peaceful regime took Americans hostage in 1979!  

60% enriched Uranium was leverage to put pressure on United States to ease sanctions and in return Iran would discontinue producing enriched uranium. - even during the negotiations just before this current war, they were willing to give it all up! - it’s pretty clear what they are using it for! 
 

You have been unable to demonstrate Iran has started a conventional war in the last 100 years. Can you say the same about Israel/US?  
 

Israeli embassy in Argentina - No one has been tried and convicted of the bombing. The case relies solely on circumstantial evidence and no smoking gun was ever shown. 

 

That’s an outright lie, please stop. My beloved Ayatollah Khomeini or Khamenei have never ever made such a statement. - please show me a video or reputable quote where they ever said that.  I can guarantee you, you can’t! - Does it make you feel good making up lies? 

[Parsad]

12 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

60% enriched Uranium was leverage to put pressure on United States to ease sanctions and in return Iran would discontinue producing enriched uranium. - even during the negotiations just before this current war, they were willing to give it all up! - it’s pretty clear what they are using it for! 
 

You have been unable to demonstrate Iran has started a conventional war in the last 100 years. Can you say the same about Israel/US?  
 

Israeli embassy in Argentina - No one has been tried and convicted of the bombing. The case relies solely on circumstantial evidence and no smoking gun was ever shown. 

 

That’s an outright lie, please stop. My beloved Ayatollah Khomeini or Khamenei have never ever made such a statement. - please show me a video or reputable quote where they ever said that.  I can guarantee you, you can’t! - Does it make you feel good making up lies? 

 

https://www.hoover.org/research/threat-any-language

 

Cheers!

[ourkid8]

32 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

https://www.hoover.org/research/threat-any-language

 

Cheers!

Professor Mirandi is a lot more eloquent then I am! 

 

According to Marandi, Iranian leaders — including the phrase originally attributed to former President Ahmadinejad — are not calling for the physical destruction of the land, the killing of Jewish people, or genocide.

 

Instead, they mean the political end of the current State of Israel as a Zionist entity (what they call an “apartheid regime” or “settler-colonial project”).

 

Marandi repeatedly compares it to the end of apartheid South Africa:

- The “regime” should disappear as a political system.

- Palestinians should be granted the right of return.

- A single democratic state should replace it, where Jews, Muslims, and Christians live with equal rights.

 

Key quotes from Marandi:

- “Ahmadinejad said that Israel must cease to exist as a political entity like apartheid South Africa. And that has always been Iranian policy.”

- “He never made any form of threat to initiate military conflict against Tel Aviv.”

 

In short: Iran’s position, as explained by Marandi, is the dissolution of the Zionist political system through resistance, demographic change (right of return), and international pressure — not the mass killing or expulsion of Israeli Jews.

 

Edited March 25 by ourkid8

[UK]

2 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

My beloved Ayatollah Khomeini or Khamenei have never ever made such a statement

Please dont be offended, maybe I am not understanding sarcasm here? But after reading this:), the last time I felt this way, was when the person I know, really respect and admire, with all seriousness was telling me he 'saw an aura with his own eyes', after participating in some exotic seminar

[Sweet]

2 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

My beloved Ayatollah Khomeini or Khamenei

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

Professor Mirandi is a lot more eloquent then I am! 

 

According to Marandi, Iranian leaders — including the phrase originally attributed to former President Ahmadinejad — are not calling for the physical destruction of the land, the killing of Jewish people, or genocide.

 

Instead, they mean the political end of the current State of Israel as a Zionist entity (what they call an “apartheid regime” or “settler-colonial project”).

 

Marandi repeatedly compares it to the end of apartheid South Africa:

- The “regime” should disappear as a political system.

- Palestinians should be granted the right of return.

- A single democratic state should replace it, where Jews, Muslims, and Christians live with equal rights.

 

Key quotes from Marandi:

- “Ahmadinejad said that Israel must cease to exist as a political entity like apartheid South Africa. And that has always been Iranian policy.”

- “He never made any form of threat to initiate military conflict against Tel Aviv.”

 

In short: Iran’s position, as explained by Marandi, is the dissolution of the Zionist political system through resistance, demographic change (right of return), and international pressure — not the mass killing or expulsion of Israeli Jews.

 

 

There is a significant difference between theoretical objective and actual action.  Not Iranians in general, but the regime specifically (including the past and current Ayotollahs), is not only well-known for, but proven to be a funder of wide-spread terrorist activity...specifically to target Western culture and behavior. 

 

Not only is the objective a "jihad", it is practiced as a religious "jihad".  So it certainly isn't Mandela calling out apartheid and practicing peaceful protest to end it.  To say so, is just as extreme as what Cubs does here, while supporting and backing almost everything Trump does.  Cheers!

[Sweet]

27 minutes ago, Parsad said:

To say so, is just as extreme as what Cubs does here, while supporting and backing almost everything Trump does

Cubs, love you brother, but this is how you come across at times I’m sorry to say.

[Spekulatius]

7 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said:

There is only one reason to have enriched uranium, and that's for a nuclear bomb.  As for starting wars, Iranian government started plenty of wars throughout history.  The only reason that they have not behaved as Iran historically has is because Iran has been weak for the past century.   This current government  blew up Israeli embassy and a Jewish center in Argentina, created Hezbollah in Lebanon which killed hundreds of Americans, backed Shiite militias that killed hundreds of  Americans in Iraq, backed Houthis in Yemen, and backed Assad who killed tens of thousands of people in Syria.  Oh, and tens of thousands of its own people.  But yes, the current government is really peaceful....  And the 400 pounds of enriched uranium and ballistic missiles that can hit London and Paris are needed to solve the water crisis in Teheran!  Ayatollah Homeini stated that it is worth to sacrifice the lives of 200 million  Moslems to wipe out the state of Israel, peaceful regime indeed!    This peaceful regime took Americans hostage in 1979!  

Enriched Uranium up to about 4% is used for nuclear reactors. Iran has functioning nuclear reactors. Beyond that the most common use case is weapons.

 

Just to be fair, Israel disguised their nuclear reactor (build in cooperation with the French) and enriched Uranium program to the US in the 60’s and claimed to build a nuclear reactor to power desalination for rh Negev desert. I guess the Iranian got their cues from somewhere.

They never claimed to have nuclear weapons nor denied it, but they’d are believed to have tested them in 1979.

 

I think in the next 10-20 years, dozens of countries will become nuclear powers. Ukraine and ironically Iran war have shown why you need them or you can get bullied over.

 

Saudi Arabia, despite denying it may have access to them already as they have a military cooperation with Pakistan which is believed to have the purpose of giving them access to nuclear knowledge how. North Korea has most likely a low yielding “dirty” bomb at least . Anyways, the tech is now 80 years old, countries with some industrial and scientific horsepower can figure this out.

 

We will live in intervening times.

[Xerxes]

7 hours ago, Viking said:

@Xerxes, I am slowly coming around to the realization that I do not understand the Persian Gulf/middle east very well. I am trying to get a better handle on Iran - how do they view the war? What are their objectives? What might have changed this time around? 
 

I found the following video interesting. If it is remotely accurate, it looks to me like the war is likely just getting started. And that is not on anyone’s bingo card.
 

Right now everything I read is looking at the conflict through the US/Israeli/arab lens - and completely ignoring the Iran perspective. The implicit assumption is Iran will be the price taker with the US/Israeli’s/arabs being the price setters.
 

I think the West is likely underestimating Iran - its resolve and the amount of leverage it thinks it has (controlling the straight and the ability to take out the critical infrastructure of its neighbours). They view what is going on today as part of a 47 year war. But one in which they need to use new tactics (the old tactics clearly have not worked). The new tactics part is what is not understood (yet) in the West today. 
 

Time will tell. But I am thinking we could see the war escalate this weekend.
 

 

Thank you. I will have a look at it.  
 

Iran, the country, has the curse of being in one the most contested area in the world, with a large population and resources.
 

There has been and always will be foreign interferences in different way. The Ayatollah regime was an antibody to that, but it went too far. The pendulum always swings too far. 
 

If Iran had a small population with the same geography and resources, I suspected there would have been far less foreign interference. 
 

I don’t know what the future holds, but I suspect the post-Khamenei Iran under IRGC will be far more nationalistic than Islamic. At the end of the day while most Iranians are not religious, they are nationalist, and there there could be “new social contract” between people and the new IRGC regime. 

[ourkid8]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

There is a significant difference between theoretical objective and actual action.  Not Iranians in general, but the regime specifically (including the past and current Ayotollahs), is not only well-known for, but proven to be a funder of wide-spread terrorist activity...specifically to target Western culture and behavior. 

 

Not only is the objective a "jihad", it is practiced as a religious "jihad".  So it certainly isn't Mandela calling out apartheid and practicing peaceful protest to end it.  To say so, is just as extreme as what Cubs does here, while supporting and backing almost everything Trump does.  Cheers!

I respect your views, even though I don’t fully agree.

 

The main reason I’m posting here is to offer another perspective. Without pushback, these threads quickly become echo chambers filled with one-sided propaganda from all directions.

 

That said, I do think many people form strong opinions after reading a few headlines on CNN, Fox, or social media, without really understanding Iranian society, Shia Islam, the history of the region, or the difference between the Iranian people and the government. 

 

Happy to discuss any specific point with sources if you’d like — I’m not here to “win,” just to add balance.