RichardGibbons Posted February 26 Posted February 26 18 minutes ago, Parsad said: My buddy who is MAGA gets me my stock of Kerry Gold Irish Butter from Washington State whenever he goes shopping! Can't get Kerry Gold in BC...just the best better in the world! Damn, I wish I had such a person. My whole household has been obsessing for the past 18 months about locating good butter.
Parsad Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Just now, RichardGibbons said: Damn, I wish I had such a person. My whole household has been obsessing for the past 18 months about locating good butter. It does make a huge difference Richard...especially if you buy good bread. I don't enjoy any other butter. Cheers!
Libs Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 hour ago, dwy000 said: I disagree. The government represents everybody, not just those with a hurdle rate IQ or can pass a basic civics test (keep in mind huge numbers of Americans notoriously fail the most basic geography, history and civics tests). Everyone thinks theyre above average intelligence and obviously that cant be true. The whole idea is that while there will always be outliers, groups as a whole are very effective in getting the right answer. People usually only have issues with it when those groups arent voting the way you want them to vote. Can't believe I'm agreeing with dwy. But he's right.
73 Reds Posted February 26 Posted February 26 35 minutes ago, Parsad said: LOL! No intention on going anywhere in the United States for the foreseeable future. Will travel to Europe and through Canada every year...not going to the U.S...period! Most of my family doesn't go to the U.S. either. Niece and nephews U.S. tournaments...most have not been going. My buddy who is MAGA gets me my stock of Kerry Gold Irish Butter from Washington State whenever he goes shopping! Can't get Kerry Gold in BC...just the best better in the world! Cheers! For a so-called "centrist" - "not going to the US period" seems like anything but. Just who are trying to punish?
flesh Posted February 26 Posted February 26 26 minutes ago, Libs said: Can't believe I'm agreeing with dwy. But he's right. 39 minutes ago, Parsad said: It does make a huge difference Richard...especially if you buy good bread. I don't enjoy any other butter. Cheers! Unwanted advice. Try some super high polyphenol olive oil. about quadruple to polyphenols of most store popular brands. life extension brand olive oil. Healthier and tastes great.
LC Posted February 26 Posted February 26 3 hours ago, 73 Reds said: For a so-called "centrist" - "not going to the US period" seems like anything but. Just who are trying to punish? Most "centrists" in America don't normally travel to third-world countries, so I don't understand your point.
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 5 hours ago, 73 Reds said: For a so-called "centrist" - "not going to the US period" seems like anything but. Just who are trying to punish? A centrist in Canada is not the same thing as a centrist in the U.S. It's like when you order a steak in the U.S. and Canada...medium means "medium" here...medium in the U.S. means "well done"! So not trying to punish anyone...I just like my steak medium! Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 hours ago, flesh said: Unwanted advice. Try some super high polyphenol olive oil. about quadruple to polyphenols of most store popular brands. life extension brand olive oil. Healthier and tastes great. With warm focaccia and balsamic vinegar...sure! But not on my flax seed, fresh baked, whole loaves right from my favorite baker...gotta have great butter with that and a nice cup of coffee! I also order my jams from London every year at Christmas time...Fortnum & Mason. Order this one...you'll devour it! https://www.fortnumandmason.com/highgrove-organic-raspberry-blackberry-preserve Also, what's the point of living longer eating healthy...I'm not going to set any longevity marks, so they might as well be fun years instead! Cheers!
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 hours ago, LC said: Most "centrists" in America don't normally travel to third-world countries, so I don't understand your point. LOL! They also don't travel to "shithole" countries like Trump said...LOL! But they'll ship bananas and guns from them. Cheers!
dealraker Posted February 27 Posted February 27 10 hours ago, Parsad said: With warm focaccia and balsamic vinegar...sure! But not on my flax seed, fresh baked, whole loaves right from my favorite baker...gotta have great butter with that and a nice cup of coffee! I also order my jams from London every year at Christmas time...Fortnum & Mason. Order this one...you'll devour it! https://www.fortnumandmason.com/highgrove-organic-raspberry-blackberry-preserve Also, what's the point of living longer eating healthy...I'm not going to set any longevity marks, so they might as well be fun years instead! Cheers! Within a reasonable parameter of lifestyle/wight etc. it is 99% genetics and medical technology anyway. At 71 most would say my "fitness" is crazy level incredible. I would reply "Yes, but my health has sucked now for a couple of decades."
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 59 minutes ago, dealraker said: Within a reasonable parameter of lifestyle/wight etc. it is 99% genetics and medical technology anyway. At 71 most would say my "fitness" is crazy level incredible. I would reply "Yes, but my health has sucked now for a couple of decades." I would agree with that Dealmaker...maybe the 99% is a bit high, but I would also suggest most of us alive today/born today, will be dependent on those two parameters. My father and grandfather didn't have the access to medicine that I have, or necessarily the food quality, lack of relative stress...etc. Yet, I have much of the same genetic makeup and similar health issues at a similar age. The difference has been the surgeons and doctors looking after me 30-50 years later compared to them. One of my best friends from high school is fighting ALS in Victoria. 56 years old, looked after himself, healthy guy, happy go lucky personality...his 16 year old son is going to slowly lose his father over the next couple of years in the most regrettable fashion. In this case, even medicine and technology will have limited effect! C'est la vie! We come in alone, we go alone...how and when, we have no idea! Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 27 Posted February 27 12 hours ago, Parsad said: A centrist in Canada is not the same thing as a centrist in the U.S. It's like when you order a steak in the U.S. and Canada...medium means "medium" here...medium in the U.S. means "well done"! So not trying to punish anyone...I just like my steak medium! Cheers! On the subject of food, in my neck of the woods servers who work for tips are actually having a great Winter since other Canadians seem to think like you. Strangely our economy is doing just fine in their absence. And I got a great deal on a beachfront condo when two of your countrymen just couldn't take it anymore. Keep it coming!
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: On the subject of food, in my neck of the woods servers who work for tips are actually having a great Winter since other Canadians seem to think like you. Strangely our economy is doing just fine in their absence. And I got a great deal on a beachfront condo when two of your countrymen just couldn't take it anymore. Keep it coming! Yeah, I think most regions are holding their own. Seems as though many people are supporting their communities and country. So the fallout isn't as bad as many thought it might be. We all eat, spend, enjoy our cities, states/provinces, country right? I've probably never eaten at so many restaurants around British Columbia in a single year...leaving nice tips at them all! Restaurant industry was struggling around North America before hand, so any support locals can give is always appreciated. Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Just now, Parsad said: Yeah, I think most regions are holding their own. Seems as though many people are supporting their communities and country. So the fallout isn't as bad as many thought it might be. We all eat, spend, enjoy our cities, states/provinces, country right? I've probably never eaten at so many restaurants around British Columbia in a single year...leaving nice tips at them all! Restaurant industry was struggling around North America before hand, so any support locals can give is always appreciated. Cheers! Can't speak for most other parts of North America but Florida is booming. Never been better (and I've been here most of my life). Trump is the gift who keeps on giving.
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Can't speak for most other parts of North America but Florida is booming. Never been better (and I've been here most of my life). Trump is the gift who keeps on giving. If you say so. Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Parsad said: If you say so. Cheers! I say so. He has made crazies in other parts of the Country act even crazier than usual which directly benefits places like Florida.
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: I say so. He has made crazies in other parts of the Country act even crazier than usual which directly benefits places like Florida. Yup, Florida isn't crazy! Just medicated. Cheers!
73 Reds Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yup, Florida isn't crazy! Just medicated. Cheers! If you say so, LOL.
dealraker Posted February 27 Posted February 27 56 minutes ago, Parsad said: I would agree with that Dealmaker...maybe the 99% is a bit high, but I would also suggest most of us alive today/born today, will be dependent on those two parameters. My father and grandfather didn't have the access to medicine that I have, or necessarily the food quality, lack of relative stress...etc. Yet, I have much of the same genetic makeup and similar health issues at a similar age. The difference has been the surgeons and doctors looking after me 30-50 years later compared to them. One of my best friends from high school is fighting ALS in Victoria. 56 years old, looked after himself, healthy guy, happy go lucky personality...his 16 year old son is going to slowly lose his father over the next couple of years in the most regrettable fashion. In this case, even medicine and technology will have limited effect! C'est la vie! We come in alone, we go alone...how and when, we have no idea! Cheers! The 99% was of course facetious, but consider it comes from a guy who by 18 had long lost parents and had the Lance Armstrong cancer. And to be factual, things didn't improve from there. As I say, life is great if you can stand it.
Parsad Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, dealraker said: The 99% was of course facetious, but consider it comes from a guy who by 18 had long lost parents and had the Lance Armstrong cancer. And to be factual, things didn't improve from there. As I say, life is great if you can stand it. Yes. Always have to look past the challenges and at the beauty! Cheers!
Blake Hampton Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yes. Always have to look past the challenges and at the beauty! Cheers! I always thought the best way to navigate suffering was to appreciate how it strengthens you. Looking back, I believe that some of my hardest events have shaped some of my best qualities. Though it seems some get stuck in it, which is sad. Edited February 27 by Blake Hampton
whiskybravo Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 hours ago, Parsad said: I would agree with that Dealmaker...maybe the 99% is a bit high, but I would also suggest most of us alive today/born today, will be dependent on those two parameters. My father and grandfather didn't have the access to medicine that I have, or necessarily the food quality, lack of relative stress...etc. Yet, I have much of the same genetic makeup and similar health issues at a similar age. The difference has been the surgeons and doctors looking after me 30-50 years later compared to them. One of my best friends from high school is fighting ALS in Victoria. 56 years old, looked after himself, healthy guy, happy go lucky personality...his 16 year old son is going to slowly lose his father over the next couple of years in the most regrettable fashion. In this case, even medicine and technology will have limited effect! C'est la vie! We come in alone, we go alone...how and when, we have no idea! Cheers! Appreciate the discussion and agree about genetics/modern medicine. However I also firmly believe small daily inputs are meaningful in the long run. I’m not talking about living forever. I’m talking about putting oneself in a better risk category; maximizing healthy days in one’s life. Lifestyle strongly affects cardiovascular disease including stroke, type 2 diabetes, some cancers, etc. So moderate caloric balance to maintain a healthy weight, regular exercise, minimal processed foods, etc don’t guarantee a long life. But 5-10 quality years with reduced suffering in later years is a realistic expectation for the majority who follow such a course.
flesh Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, whiskybravo said: Appreciate the discussion and agree about genetics/modern medicine. However I also firmly believe small daily inputs are meaningful in the long run. I’m not talking about living forever. I’m talking about putting oneself in a better risk category; maximizing healthy days in one’s life. Lifestyle strongly affects cardiovascular disease including stroke, type 2 diabetes, some cancers, etc. So moderate caloric balance to maintain a healthy weight, regular exercise, minimal processed foods, etc don’t guarantee a long life. But 5-10 quality years with reduced suffering in later years is a realistic expectation for the majority who follow such a course. Glad you said this. Anyone who honestly thinks that diet (what you eat and portion size), exercise, sleep quality etc doesn't make a big diff is simply being anti scientific/ignorant. I'm not saying you are a bad if you don't focus on it, just saying it's untrue that you can't make a meaningful difference by the lifestyle choices you make. Additionally, the magnitude of the difference you can make based on science is growing, yearly. I'll grant the science isn't always perfect, there's so many variable, and science interpreted by humans is often misused like statistics to confirm one's preconceived notions/sell stuff. That said there is some that's at least highly probably, and much that's likely and is very unlikely to have a downside resulting in increased odds. I recommend the nutrition made simple! channel on youtube. He's not perfect but he's the closest I've found to a doctor that specializes in research regarding the subject and will show you the actual studies, their claims, meta studies of studies, and tries to break down what they do or don't mean without fluff, or very limited fluff. Here's a good example, From a motivational perspective, there's nothing better as you age than having a body/mind that works well. What would you pay to have an extra ten high quality years? I bet many of you would give up half your net worth if it was guaranteed. The tendency to consider genes being primary is based on the past, you know, "this one guy smoked forever and lived to 100" type anecdotes. In the past we didn't know what we know now, or a lot less. We can't know to what degree genes make versus choices to any meaningful degree until we have large enough groups of people who have made good choices for decades to compare to based on current science. Its backward looking not forward. Edited February 27 by flesh
dealraker Posted February 27 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, flesh said: Glad you said this. Anyone who honestly thinks that diet (what you eat and portion size), exercise, sleep quality etc doesn't make a big diff is simply being anti scientific/ignorant. I'm not saying you are a bad if you don't focus on it, just saying it's untrue that you can't make a meaningful difference by the lifestyle choices you make. Additionally, the magnitude of the difference you can make based on science is growing, yearly. I'll grant the science isn't always perfect, there's so many variable, and science interpreted by humans is often misused like statistics to confirm one's preconceived notions/sell stuff. That said there is some that's at least highly probably, and much that's likely and is very unlikely to have a downside resulting in increased odds. I recommend the nutrition made simple! channel on youtube. He's not perfect but he's the closest I've found to a doctor that specializes in research regarding the subject and will show you the actual studies, their claims, meta studies of studies, and tries to break down what they do or don't mean without fluff, or very limited fluff. From a motivational perspective, there's nothing better as you age than having a body/mind that works well. What would you pay to have an extra ten high quality years? I bet many of you would give up half your net worth if it was guaranteed. The tendency to consider genes being primary is based on the past, you know, "this one guy smoked forever and lived to 100" type anecdotes. In the past we didn't know what we know now, or a lot less. We can't know to what degree genes make versus choices to any meaningful degree until we have large enough groups of people who have made good choices for decades to compare to based on current science. Its backward looking not forward. My brother and I were barely old enough to witness and remember my mother's poor mental health (she committed suicide) and my dad's awful physical health. So we went down the road of staying fit and eating healthy. By 22 we'd both already dealt with cancers such that neither of us would have been surprised if death would have come. Today we are both in to about 8 years of non-Hodgkin Lymphoma which as been effectively treated but we are on the long end of expected life having it. Along the way I've probably set some type of record for surgeries from the chest level down through the digestive tracts, 11 or so. It is amazing how confining it is mentally to always be in a struggle to live. At one time Spekulatius (Ralf) wanted to meet for lunch, which we eventually did, but I had a hard time getting myself up and about in a presentable mind set such that he wouldn't think I was some sort of almost corpse. It took months, and this was just the norm, not the exception. Since then I've gotten much healthier...finally after about ten years of meaningful struggle from the dread and recovery of one operation after another. In any event I don't think I have eaten an unhealthy meal in 50 years. So...it is what it is!
flesh Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) 27 minutes ago, dealraker said: My brother and I were barely old enough to witness and remember my mother's poor mental health (she committed suicide) and my dad's awful physical health. So we went down the road of staying fit and eating healthy. By 22 we'd both already dealt with cancers such that neither of us would have been surprised if death would have come. Today we are both in to about 8 years of non-Hodgkin Lymphoma which as been effectively treated but we are on the long end of expected life having it. Along the way I've probably set some type of record for surgeries from the chest level down through the digestive tracts, 11 or so. It is amazing how confining it is mentally to always be in a struggle to live. At one time Spekulatius (Ralf) wanted to meet for lunch, which we eventually did, but I had a hard time getting myself up and about in a presentable mind set such that he wouldn't think I was some sort of almost corpse. It took months, and this was just the norm, not the exception. Since then I've gotten much healthier...finally after about ten years of meaningful struggle from the dread and recovery of one operation after another. In any event I don't think I have eaten an unhealthy meal in 50 years. So...it is what it is! Wow, ya that's just horrendous, no doubt some of us are luckier than others. I feel for you. You must be tough. I never met either of my grandpa's. One died when on a bender and tripped and hit his head on the sink at 45 years old and died. The other had been smoking for 25 years, unfiltered cigarettes and died of heart complications mid 40's as well. Both grandma's made it to 87 and 94 though so there's reason to believe the genes might be okay, so long as I don't smoke or become an alcoholic! That said, both what you and I are saying can be and are true at a population level. Edited February 27 by flesh
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