cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Gregmal said: I mean the second amendment stuff kinda hits a wall here no? If simply “carrying” presents valid grounds for someone shooting you, then is that really a right to carry? Similarly, if “Ashley broke the law” by trespassing, don’t we need to cut this “illegals aren’t criminals” because all they did was trespass, bullshit? Seems both sides are seeing ideology collapse on itself here. I think you're just about right. Carrying a weapon legally - no problem. Resisting law enforcement when armed is a whole another level. All he had to do was comply and it would have ended like Kyle Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse immediately surrendered and did not foolishly fight law enforcement, putting every one in danger. As @Marco Van Basten stated - very poor and reckless judgement showing up at a "peaceful protest" armed to the teeth, and then resisting law enforcement commands. Why should Law enforcement risk their lives with an armed man they know nothing about? Edited January 25 by cubsfan
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: Did you watch the videos of Alex's execution? Yes or no. Very simple. Several times
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 hours ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Ashli Babbitt - storms the capitol with an angry mob that beat the shit out of cops - was breaking her way through a barricade with an armed office on the other side who provided multiple verbal warnings. Republican response: "This is travesty a patriot died today" An armed man who never reaches for his gun, but uses his body to shield a woman from being maced for recording armed/masked domestic terrorists is being pinned down by 3/4 officers while another unholstered his gun, points it, and shoots. Republican response: "he was an assassin trying to kill Federal agents why would ever have a gun anywhere near a federal agent?!?!" @cubsfan please take more time to read this again 40 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Yes - that is EXACTLY what Joe Biden did. Pardon all the law breakers including every member of his family. That is how fascism works. Exactly - both Trump and Biden did shit. Saying "BUT BIDEN DID IT TOO" doesnt justift anything @cubsfan 42 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Yeah of course. She was trespassing and unarmed - so she deserved to be shot - just like the rest of them according to you. You even admitted she was unarmed. You are the perfect fascist: Use violence as necessary tools for social change and cleansing. Again - Trespassing a government building and standing outside legally are totally different things. Have you seen his death? Its simple because there is no way to justify it after you study the video @cubsfan 27 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: LOLOLOL nice try. You are still getting an F. Ashley broke the law before she was engaged and eventually shot. Alex broke 0 laws before he was engaged and eventually shot. But if we go with your logic, either Ashli shooting was bad and so was Alex's. Or Alex's shooting was good and justified and so was Ashli's. You can't have both. Seriously, did you watch the 3 videos? That's the only answer I'd like from you so I can gauge what you are basing your opinions on. Exactly. I am sure the next months there will be many more of these horrific moments and at some point even @cubsfan can not hide from reality anymore
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: Did you watch the videos of Alex's execution? Yes or no. Very simple. nazi sympathizer on CoBF: "I don't need to see any fake videos. I know what happened." "Much of what you’re witnessing is a COVER UP for this Theft and Fraud. The Mayor and the Governor are inciting Insurrection, with their pompous, dangerous, and arrogant rhetoric! Instead, these sanctimonious political fools should be looking for the Billions of Dollars that has been stolen from the people of Minnesota, and the United States of America," the president wrote.
dealraker Posted January 25 Posted January 25 17 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Several times Cubs you spend your entire life on this forum desperate to justify your Trump obsession. The more you fail the harder you try.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Luke said: @cubsfan please take more time to read this again Exactly - both Trump and Biden did shit. Saying "BUT BIDEN DID IT TOO" doesnt justift anything @cubsfan Again - Trespassing a government building and standing outside legally are totally different things. Have you seen his death? Its simple because there is no way to justify it after you study the video @cubsfan Exactly. I am sure the next months there will be many more of these horrific moments and at some point even @cubsfan can not hide from reality anymore @Luke I'll put you down as one of the CoBF mob. Shooting unarmed protesters is perfectly fine... We've established that one with a few of the CoBF members. Tough for me to accept, but that's ok. I guess it's now ok to shoot Capitol trespassers, even unarmed women. One in fact says: "Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th." But whatever you do - don't shoot an armed man that does not comply with law enforcement.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, dealraker said: Cubs you spend your entire life on this forum desperate to justify your Trump obsession. The more you fail the harder you try. Poor pathetic Deal - nothing of value to add. I'll wait for your next Cialdini lecture. Of course, all Trump supporters are NAZI's.
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, cubsfan said: @Luke I'll put you down as one of the CoBF mob. Shooting unarmed protesters is perfectly fine... We've established that one with a few of the CoBF members. Tough for me to accept, but that's ok. I guess it's now ok to shoot Capitol trespassers, even unarmed women. One in fact says: "Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th." But whatever you do - don't shoot an armed man that does not comply with law enforcement. Two incomparable things. One is trespassing of a high level government building with politicians inside and the other is just standing outside at a location of a protest. Just admit ICE went out of control here - you are just making a fool out of yourself not being able to tell right from wrong when it is obvious. If you cant even do that you have left the domain of reason and are the exact mob you blame us to be (projection)
Sweet Posted January 25 Posted January 25 You know what’s the root cause of all the shootings of protestors? The refusal to just let the ICE guys to do their job. Stay out of their way, comply should you meet them, be nice. They’re doing an awful job, it’s clear they are scared shitless and on edge, and they are killing people they really shouldn’t be because of. This can all be calmed by just letting them remove those who are in the country illegally. Protest at the ballot box, stay alive.
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) And i agree with what posters said before, this execution of renee good is comparable to how nazi groups killed dissidents, ICE consists of characters of similar background to nazi groups responsible for massacres and the most shocking thing is that the government seems to be backing them fully. Edited January 25 by Luke
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Luke said: Two incomparable things. One is trespassing of a high level government building with politicians inside and the other is just standing outside at a location of a protest. Just admit ICE went out of control here - you are just making a fool out of yourself not being able to tell right from wrong when it is obvious. If you cant even do that you have left the domain of reason and are the exact mob you blame us to be (projection) Wrong - you think it's perfectly acceptable to shoot unarmed protestors that trespass at the Capitol. It's as simple as that @Luke In your mind - it's perfectly OK.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Sweet said: You know what’s the root cause of all the shootings of protestors? The refusal to just let the ICE guys to do their job. Stay out of their way, comply should you meet them, be nice. They’re doing an awful job, it’s clear they are scared shitless and on edge, and they are killing people they really shouldn’t be because of. This can all be calmed by just letting them remove those who are in the country illegally. Protest at the ballot box, stay alive. Oh my goodness - common sense! Someone that finally believes in Law & Order.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Luke said: And i agree with what posters said before, this execution of renee good is comparable to how nazi groups killed dissidents, ICE consists of characters of similar background to nazi groups responsible for massacres and the most shocking thing is that the government seems to be backing them fully. Of course you would say that - all Trump supporters and ICE agents are NAZIS - just ask Deal - they even dress like them!
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Marco Van Basten said: You keep missing my point. I am not arguing whether he deserved to be shot or not. (From my limited knowledge, he clearly did not.) My point is what you can do to minimize harm to oneself. Don't bring a gun to a protest, no good will come out of it. The goal in life is to learn from other people's mistakes so you don't repeat them. If I had a gun permit, I would not go to a presidential rally with it, that's just common sense. According to most Republicans you should be allowed to go anywhere you want with a gun as long as you have a permit. He literally did nothing wrong and did not break the law yet got shot, what, 11 times? Why are you trying to put it back on him instead of the people who shot him 11 times because he filmed them.
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, Luke said: Two incomparable things. One is trespassing of a high level government building with politicians inside and the other is just standing outside at a location of a protest. Just admit ICE went out of control here - you are just making a fool out of yourself not being able to tell right from wrong when it is obvious. If you cant even do that you have left the domain of reason and are the exact mob you blame us to be (projection) @Luke you cant argue logic with someone in a cult. They believe what theyre told to believe and have no capability to think independently. You're wasting your time.
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Wrong - you think it's perfectly acceptable to shoot unarmed protestors that trespass at the Capitol. It's as simple as that @Luke In your mind - it's perfectly OK. You too - would shoot someone who invades your house and there is no other way out for you. Regardless of if you see she is armed or unarmed (which is difficult to see). That does not make it okay to shoot people who bear arms legally on the street by the sec. Amendment. End of story. One person did something illegal - the other did not.
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, dwy000 said: @Luke you cant argue logic with someone in a cult. They believe what theyre told to believe and have no capability to think independently. You're wasting your time. It will be fascinating to see at which point in time even @cubsfanbreaks down and cant deny how rotten the current development is. The moment is not there yet but i think its likely to come by this year.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, Luke said: You too - would shoot someone who invades your house and there is no other way out for you. Regardless of if you see she is armed or unarmed (which is difficult to see). That does not make it okay to shoot people who bear arms legally on the street by the sec. Amendment. End of story. One person did something illegal - the other did not. Silly boy - Alex Pretti was actively interfering with Law Enforcement and refused to comply - preferring to resist their commands. Oh, and did I mentioned he was armed and dangerous?? Minor detail @Luke - perfect setup to get yourself shot dead - unlike the fantasy world you live in.
dealraker Posted January 25 Posted January 25 31 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Poor pathetic Deal - nothing of value to add. I'll wait for your next Cialdini lecture. Of course, all Trump supporters are NAZI's. The man was murdered cubs. You know it and we all know it. Cialdini couldn't come close to getting a grip on your obsession.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Luke said: It will be fascinating to see at which point in time even @cubsfanbreaks down and cant deny how rotten the current development is. The moment is not there yet but i think its likely to come by this year. Sure @Luke. Just like all your predictions about the world wide recession due to tariffs. We're still waiting on that one.
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, dwy000 said: @Luke you cant argue logic with someone in a cult. They believe what theyre told to believe and have no capability to think independently. You're wasting your time. And that's why I say that I would hate to see people like Cubs on a jury. If anyone wasn't convinced that Cubs is not completely sucked into the Trump cult just read where he says he watched the videos of the shooting and maintains that the victim was attacking the Ice agents. Some trick to do with your back turned and with one hand trying to help a woman get up and a cell phone in the other.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, dealraker said: The man was murdered cubs. You know it and we all know it. Cialdini couldn't come close to getting a grip on your obsession. And Ashli Babbitt was not murdered by Pelosi's Capitol Police. Right... No outrage to see there.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, cwericb said: And that's why I say that I would hate to see people like Cubs on a jury. If anyone wasn't convinced that Cubs is not completely sucked into the Trump cult just read where he says he watched the videos of the shooting and maintains that the victim was attacking the Ice agents. Some trick to do with your back turned and with one hand trying to help a woman get up and a cell phone in the other. Why does an armed man resist police and not comply? He is exceedingly dangerous. In fact, multiple officers could not get him to place his arms behind his back - he just resisted. But leave it to you and the libtards to call it unjustified. That's how sick you are. That's how little respect you have for the lives of Law Enforcement. You are the kind of juror that got OJ Simpson off.
Luke Posted January 25 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Why does an armed man resist police and not comply? He is exceedingly dangerous. In fact, multiple officers could not get him to place his arms behind his back - he just resisted. But leave it to you and the libtards to call it unjustified. That's how sick you are. That's how little respect you have for the lives of Law Enforcement. You are the kind of juror that got OJ Simpson off.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Luke said: Big deal @Luke - I can post 200 that say the opposite. Up your game already.
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