Castanza Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 (edited) 35 minutes ago, cwericb said: " but you’re useless and no one cares what you have to say " "Sure thing squirt....there is only a handful of people engaged in this conversation...." Here we have a couple of examples of how a FEW posters - usually on the Right - consistently like to attack other posters personally. Attack, attack, attack. Disparage and belittle are their weapons of choice. It is just so tiring, so childish and so unnecessary. But, like members of a cult they tend to emulate their chosen leader and his actions and methods, and yet sadly they lack the good sense to be embarrassed by it. If one has confidence in the legitimate points you wish to make, why do you feel the necessity to personally attack those with other views? Sure, anyone can 'lose it' at times, but the above 'tag team' do this consistently with their "Holier than thou" attitude. It just reflects poorly on their upbringing and lack of any good manners. Isn't it time to grow up? Please show me another example where I have disparaged anyone on this forum....If you're going to make the claim then at least provide evidence...Perhaps you are thinking of someone else with a purple icon and a C for a starting letter. Again, you continue to insert yourself into conversations you're not providing any insight too...But hey I called you squirt a single time...lock me up! You have no comments regarding covid on any of the prior pages before your interjection and claim of "just another flu." Yet you insist you were "part of the conversation." @LC, @Marco Van Basten @Gregmal and myself were discussing the response to covid by officials... Receipts are all there.... Here is your initial interjection: Nobody claimed this or was even discussing this, yet you interject and make the claim regardless. My Response: Further explanation no derogatory terms used. Your Response: Walking back your comment, and taking a shot without any discussion My Response: Playful banter to your unprovoked jabs along with further explanation saying "if you're not going to engage in discussion then I'm not going to waste my time." Your Response: No discussion and further derogatory jabs MY RESPONSE: BUT THEN YOU KEEP GOING....Bringing up foggy recollections or lack of recollections that someone may or may not have said 5 years ago that have nothing to do with the discussion you claimed you were involved in yet have no input or discussion found in the last 10 pages lol?!?! Enjoy your day Cwericb Edited October 3, 2025 by Castanza
cwericb Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 1 hour ago, Castanza said: Please show me another example where I have disparaged anyone on this forum....If you're going to make the claim then at least provide evidence...Perhaps you are thinking of someone else with a purple icon and a C for a starting letter. Again, you continue to insert yourself into conversations you're not providing any insight too...But hey I called you squirt a single time...lock me up! You have no comments regarding covid on any of the prior pages before your interjection and claim of "just another flu." Yet you insist you were "part of the conversation." @LC, @Marco Van Basten @Gregmal and myself were discussing the response to covid by officials... Receipts are all there.... Here is your initial interjection: Nobody claimed this or was even discussing this, yet you interject and make the claim regardless. My Response: Further explanation no derogatory terms used. Your Response: Walking back your comment, and taking a shot without any discussion My Response: Playful banter to your unprovoked jabs along with further explanation saying "if you're not going to engage in discussion then I'm not going to waste my time." Your Response: No discussion and further derogatory jabs MY RESPONSE: BUT THEN YOU KEEP GOING....Bringing up foggy recollections or lack of recollections that someone may or may not have said 5 years ago that have nothing to do with the discussion you claimed you were involved in yet have no input or discussion found in the last 10 pages lol?!?! Enjoy your day Cwericb First, I don't have time to address all your points at this time. However, I have commented on this topic of Covid since day one, five years ago and contrary to your accusation I can assure you my recollections are not foggy in the least. Also, I simply pointed out the fact that a lot of hindsight was at play by some. Second, You know, I have been around here loooong before you joined but somewhere along the line I must have missed where you became moderator and one needs your permission to comment. Third, Some time ago, on a different topic, you made the remark that you could not believe how "uneducated" I was, and yes, the "C" stood for Castanza. I may not have the fine education you have bragged about, but I do likely have a lot more life experience than you and I can guarantee you that most education is not taught in the classroom. (And, just FYI I do have a university degree) I also have a long memory when someone takes cheap shots. Fourth, As far as not commenting for 10 pages, (six days ago). Some of us have other things to do rather than be lectured by you. QED Now I am sorry for my tone in this series of posts. But there comes a time when someone has to react to the cheap shots certain members of this board like to take. And while you are certainly not the main culprit, you do like tag team with probably the most obnoxious poster on CBoF who seems to get away with saying whatever he likes. Some of us just get a little tired of the childish remarks and name calling - and I know I speak for more then myself because of PM's I have receive. Hopefully, our conversation may lead to a little more civility on the board.
Castanza Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, cwericb said: First, I don't have time to address all your points at this time. However, I have commented on this topic of Covid since day one, five years ago and contrary to your accusation I can assure you my recollections are not foggy in the least. Also, I simply pointed out the fact that a lot of hindsight was at play by some. The covid topic does not exist on this forum anymore. You made the claim that because I did NOT refute something someone may or may not have said I am (in your opinion) in agreement with said statement. Regarding the hindsight....nobody even mentioned covid in context of being similar to the flu. YOU brought this topic up, not Greg, I or LC... It was regarding leaderships response. I said both administrations were outclassed by the issue at hand and did not rise to the occasion. Hence, part of the reason we have a large swath of people who are vaccine hesitant today. 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Second, You know, I have been around here loooong before you joined but somewhere along the line I must have missed where you became moderator and one needs your permission to comment. 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Fourth, As far as not commenting for 10 pages, (six days ago). Some of us have other things to do rather than be lectured by you. You said you were actively discussing the covid topic LC, Greg, and myself were discussing. I pointed out that you did not make any comments at all regarding the topic since it first came up 10 pages ago. Therefore you were NOT involved in the conversation. If you want to engage, then do so...But bringing up out of context, unproven, irrelevant points along with accusations is not the way. 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Third, Some time ago, on a different topic, you made the remark that you could not believe how "uneducated" I was, and yes, the "C" stood for Castanza. I may not have the fine education you have bragged about, but I do likely have a lot more life experience than you and I can guarantee you that most education is not taught in the classroom. (And, just FYI I do have a university degree) I also have a long memory when someone takes cheap shots. Perhaps regarding a specific topic that you did not use any data to support...I have never once bragged about my education on this forum. Not once. In fact I've probably done the opposite. 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Now I am sorry for my tone in this series of posts. But there comes a time when someone has to react to the cheap shots certain members of this board like to take. And while you are certainly not the main culprit, you do like tag team with probably the most obnoxious poster on CBoF who seems to get away with saying whatever he likes. Some of us just get a little tired of the childish remarks and name calling - and I know I speak for more then myself because of PM's I have receive. Hopefully, our conversation may lead to a little more civility on the board. If you would have not commented with some out of context off topic accusation OR instead, chose to contributed to the discussion within context there would have been no issues....instead you did exactly that, were asked to clarify but instead doubled down further moving the conversation off topic... Again....Moving on...I will not respond to this nonsense any further. If you wish to have discussion you can DM me. Edited October 3, 2025 by Castanza
cwericb Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 19 minutes ago, Castanza said: The covid topic does not exist on this forum anymore. You made the claim that because I did NOT refute something someone may or may not have said I am (in your opinion) in agreement with said statement. Regarding the hindsight....nobody even mentioned covid in context of being similar to the flu. YOU brought this topic up, not Greg, I or LC... Yes, that was in respect to hindsight. You said you were actively discussing the covid topic LC, Greg, and myself were discussing. I pointed out that you did not make any comments at all regarding the topic since it first came up 10 pages ago. Therefore you were NOT involved in the conversation. If you want to engage, then do so...But brining up out of context, unproven, irrelevant points along with accusations is not the way. Again, that was in respect to hindsight.And I have been involved in the topic since before it came to N. America. Perhaps regarding a specific topic that you likely did not use any data to support...I have never once bragged about my education on this forum. Not once. In fact I've probably done the opposite. Re your calling me uneducated, It was regarding the Second Amendment. Fair point regarding your education, I apologize if it was some other poster who mentioned they had a PHD, etc. If you would have not commented with some out of context off topic accusation OR instead, chose to contributed to the discussion within context there would have been no issues....instead you doubled down... Again, I was responding to a comment made by LC ( I believe) who mentioned hindsight". 19 minutes ago, Castanza said: Again....Moving on... The covid topic does not exist on this forum anymore. You made the claim that because I did NOT refute something someone may or may not have said I am (in your opinion) in agreement with said statement. Regarding the hindsight....nobody even mentioned covid in context of being similar to the flu. YOU brought this topic up, not Greg, I or LC... Yes I did, that was in respect to a post concerning hindsight. You said you were actively discussing the covid topic LC, Greg, and myself were discussing. I pointed out that you did not make any comments at all regarding the topic since it first came up 10 pages ago. Therefore you were NOT involved in the conversation. If you want to engage, then do so...But brining up out of context, unproven, irrelevant points along with accusations is not the way. Again, that was in respect to hindsight.And I have been involved in the Covid discussion since before Covid came to N. America. In fact when it did hit I happened to be in Cuba. Perhaps regarding a specific topic that you likely did not use any data to support...I have never once bragged about my education on this forum. Not once. In fact I've probably done the opposite. Re your calling me uneducated, It was in regard to a discussion that involved the Second Amendment. Fair point regarding your education, I apologize if it was some other poster who recently mentioned they had a PHD, etc. If you would have not commented with some out of context off topic accusation OR instead, chose to contributed to the discussion within context there would have been no issues....instead you doubled down... Again, I was responding to a comment made by LC ( I believe) who mentioned hindsight". Done with this for now - Gotta go - it's the weekend!
Cigarbutt Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 6 hours ago, Castanza said: You do realize the covid vaccine does not prevent you from spreading covid if you have covid right? It prevents YOU from having severe affects and prolonged illness....You should limit exposure to at risk individuals whether vaccinated or not if you are sick or symptomatic. There are some studies that show that vaccinated individuals have a reduced viral load in a shorter timeframe than say an asymptomatic person, but it seems to be (according to a bunch of NIH studies, MayoClinic, and CDC studies 2023-2025 that it is not a huge difference). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39283431/ Do you realize that the analytical framework that you suggest is the same kind of framework that will lead one/you? to believe that Tylenol® causes autism?
Castanza Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cigarbutt said: Do you realize that the analytical framework that you suggest is the same kind of framework that will lead one/you? to believe that Tylenol® causes autism? Well then take it up with NIH…it’s not my study. And nowhere did I say Tylenol causes autism or that you should not get your covid vaccine… Edited October 3, 2025 by Castanza
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 3:22 PM, cwericb said: Now I didn't say this but From Wiki: George Louis Costanza ... is a short, stocky, balding man who struggles with numerous insecurities ... LOL! Cheers!
LC Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 (edited) Trump goons "at war in portland" https://v.redd.it/lial9tuaaxsf1 These goofballs are fighting "a war" with people dressed up in frog outfits. Ribbit, ribbit! Talking about losers - imagine how much of loser you have to be to sign up and do something like this? I'll take "peaked in high school and occasionally needs to slap around the wife to maintain her respect for $100, Alex" Also: Costanza was the best Seinfeld character, you guys are nuts if you think otherwise! And let's not forget his girlfriends! https://screenrant.com/seinfeld-george-ex-girlfriends-ranked-likable-not/ Edited October 3, 2025 by LC
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 3:55 PM, Sweet said: Liberals think you can pick up a person from one part of the world, move them to another part of the world, drop them in, and all will be fine. Running up to Brexit, the argument was the immigration was a net economic benefit to the UK. Perhaps it was then. However there were also reasons to believe that wasn’t the full story, for example, parts of UK cities would have certain immigrants hanging around during the week clearly doing nothing. It’s gotten much worse since Brexit too. Until recently we couldn’t even examine the ethnic background and immigration status of the people in UK as it relates to crime, employment, welfare. Recent work has started to give different answers on whether immigration is economically beneficial. At best the situation is now is complicated. What’s certain is the mantra of immigration is always good has been shattered. Worse are the non-economic effects though, we are finding that many immigrants are over represented in crime and many are hostile to our country and values. All of which is to say trust your eyes, the data and research lags - always - and what’s acceptable to talk about shifts slowly at first and then fast. Yet don’t tar everyone with the same brush as some immigrants definitely do contribute, and do integrate. Worked fine for my family who immigrated here...as well as millions of others. We've paid a ton of taxes, charitable work, community work and have certainly given back more than taken. And that was after my grandfather passed away two years after coming to Canada and my father was left working three jobs to support his non-English speaking mother, 12 year old sister and 4 year old brother. The assumption (lie) that immigrants are a lazy burden to society is an anecdote that has been disproven time and time again both statistically and in truth! Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 22 hours ago, Gregmal said: And this doesn’t even begin to account for stuff like arresting people for going out in public. Fining small business owners for trying to stay afloat while allowing Walmart and Amazon to stay open. Gavin going to private dinners with his buddies while mandating everyone else triple mask at home. I agree with this part. Small businesses took the hit unfairly. Not sure that was entirely Fauci's fault as people including Trump lay the blame at his feet. At the same time, without letting Walmart and Amazon function, as well as other big players, we would have massive shortages and price spikes on out of stock items. Was there a way to allow more businesses to operate...probably. But what if the disease mutated and the infection rate spiked instead of being somewhat contained? It really was a damned if you do and damned if you don't moment. Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 22 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said: I must have missed it, but would you mind showing me where in the report that you quoted there is accounting for Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, food pantries, prisons, schools and other government services used by immigrants. Thank you. My family since coming to Canada in 1964 has never used any of those services other than schools and government services like the DMV. And we also paid all of our taxes to use those two services. This notion of immigrants being a burden has been around forever! In the U.S. it was the Irish and Italians who were despised and vilified in the mid-1800's...then the Chinese and Japanese...after that South Americans and Mexicans...then of all various Indian descent. Criminals, liars, rapists, murderers, tax cheats, underground economies, etc...same shit we hear today has been around for nearly 200 years in the U.S...and even longer in Europe for that matter! Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 21 hours ago, cwericb said: Yup, same thing around here. Some locals bitch about immigrants taking their jobs, while said locals prefer to collect welfare rather than work. At the very least the immigrants have had the guts to get off their asses and leave their country for a better future elsewhere where most work their asses off. The real problem as I see it is that quotas need to be set. If you admit say 10,000 immigrants than perhaps 2 or 3 must be medical doctors, 10 must be nurses, 'x' must be skilled mechanics, 'y' must be skilled carpenters, etc, etc. +1! Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 21 hours ago, Castanza said: Yes, where you interjected yourself into the conversation with some random “just another flu” comment that nobody had said or was claiming. You implied this was the view of some currently. I’m not sure which “point” you are referring; but I’m assuming it’s the one where I shared an FBI report with 30 years of compiled data and their opinion on the firearm issue? You’re free to agree or disagree with their views. One thing that gets lost in forum format discussions is the context and frame of mind said poster has. Just looking at the last two pages I see multiple responses to points made that do not address the topic in the context that it was said (ex. @Parsad referencing backwards looking vaccine studies with current data in order to address Greg’s comment regarding a parents view of the covid vaccine during 2020) Discussing covid with a 2020 this is what we knew then vs 2025 this is what we know now viewpoint is vastly different. If you do not read the context of the conversation and note this distinction you will likely misunderstand someone’s point. The very fact of what you said that people were looking at things from a 2020 perspective and not in hindsight should make you agree even more that precaution took hold over liberties at a time when data was short-term. It's easy to say everything should be normal when you don't have all the facts and people's lives in real-time are at risk. I spoke to two doctors in San Francisco last year who were telling me how they were working double shifts in hospitals instead of their practices because people were dropping like flies. Remember New York not having enough space for bodies in their morgue and so they were being moved to an area on Staten Island and buried en masse?! If Fauci and the CDC had gotten things even slightly wrong on the infection and mortality rate, today you would be bitching about how he killed millions and millions of people. Instead of congratulating leaders on the lives saved, some people are still bitching and moaning about how they were forced to stay inside, or their civil liberty protest was shut down, or how 5 and 10 year olds really didn't need the vaccine. Crazy! Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 14 hours ago, backtothebeach said: Last night I dreamed of @Parsad chasing kids with a syringe... (kidding) As we have learned during the pandemic, statistics are a tricky thing. Those 17400 poor children (over the course of 2.5 years) were overwhelmingly not healthy children that suddenly dropped dead from Covid. How many of them were seriously ill and any respiratory infection would have pushed them over the edge? The stats don't differentiate "from Covid" and "with Covid as a factor". Not jabbing healthy kids with a non-sterilizing and short lasting treatment was and is entirely rational. You're not providing any reason to disagree with the statistics. Many people who were over 50 and died also were not healthy and may have compromised immune systems. And there were many cases of healthy young children dying directly from Covid due to respiratory issues. You're argument is like saying "healthy kids don't need to wear seatbelts...only the sick ones!" Cheers!
Castanza Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, Parsad said: The very fact of what you said that people were looking at things from a 2020 perspective and not in hindsight should make you agree even more that precaution took hold over liberties at a time when data was short-term. It's easy to say everything should be normal when you don't have all the facts and people's lives in real-time are at risk. I spoke to two doctors in San Francisco last year who were telling me how they were working double shifts in hospitals instead of their practices because people were dropping like flies. Remember New York not having enough space for bodies in their morgue and so they were being moved to an area on Staten Island and buried en masse?! If Fauci and the CDC had gotten things even slightly wrong on the infection and mortality rate, today you would be bitching about how he killed millions and millions of people. Instead of congratulating leaders on the lives saved, some people are still bitching and moaning about how they were forced to stay inside, or their civil liberty protest was shut down, or how 5 and 10 year olds really didn't need the vaccine. Crazy! Cheers! Precautions well outlasted new data that was widely available on a global level for some things. As mentioned before, I think both administrations were outclassed by the problem and as I said anyone would have had a hard time. The point of this discussion was to highlight in part a reason why everyone is so vaccine hesitant TODAY. Probably because of the strong arming that occurred during covid. You reap what you sow to a degree. I am not arguing that precautions were unnecessary. At the end of the day decisions had to be made and I understand that.
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 12 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Sanjeev, prior to Covid, the Flu killed tens of thousands of Americans each year. The flu is just as contagious as Covid. Did you lobby for mandatory flu shots? Please don't treat Covid vaccines as if there is no possibility of adverse side effects. It really comes down to a person decision. Actually, I would lobby for mandatory flu shots...I get them every year. The side effects of soreness, redness, fatigue, etc are short-term and most other side effects are extremely low. Also please don't pretend that Covid vaccine side effects are significantly higher than what is seen statistically...which is very low. Cheers!
Parsad Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 11 hours ago, Castanza said: You do realize the covid vaccine does not prevent you from spreading covid if you have covid right? It prevents YOU from having severe affects and prolonged illness....You should limit exposure to at risk individuals whether vaccinated or not if you are sick or symptomatic. There are some studies that show that vaccinated individuals have a reduced viral load in a shorter timeframe than say an asymptomatic person, but it seems to be (according to a bunch of NIH studies, MayoClinic, and CDC studies 2023-2025 that it is not a huge difference). Of course! My point was that the unvaccinated senior was at the mercy of any visitor. Just like at risk children would be at the mercy of anyone with Covid they encountered. You also don't know the infection and mortality rate of mutated viruses...prevention lessens symptoms and adverse effects of infection. That's the whole point of the vaccines! Cheers!
Mephistopheles Posted October 3, 2025 Posted October 3, 2025 Let’s all agree on one thing - Cuomo was a goon during COVID. People died because of his massive ego
Castanza Posted October 4, 2025 Posted October 4, 2025 37 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said: Let’s all agree on one thing - Cuomo was a goon during COVID. People died because of his massive ego Lol and now he’s running for mayor
Gregmal Posted October 4, 2025 Posted October 4, 2025 2 hours ago, Mephistopheles said: Let’s all agree on one thing - Cuomo was a goon during COVID. People died because of his massive ego Ironically the only time I’ve been banned here was after Biden took office and Sanjeev said no more politics…and like a day or two after he was sworn in I called Cuomo a fuckin liar and a creep. I was in the midst of my Covid adventure traveling the country with the family and during my time off found Preferred Apartment Communities at $7 a share. When I came back I posted the idea, everyone made a shit ton of money, and the rest is history.
Charlie Posted October 4, 2025 Posted October 4, 2025 7 hours ago, Parsad said: Actually, I would lobby for mandatory flu shots...I get them every year. The side effects of soreness, redness, fatigue, etc are short-term and most other side effects are extremely low. Also please don't pretend that Covid vaccine side effects are significantly higher than what is seen statistically...which is very low. Cheers! +1 If you really want to protect against a strong case of Covid, I would have some Paxlovid in your medicine box and take it as fast as you can if you are Covid positive. It decreases the chances of a severe Covid case dramatically. I took it two times and it worked wonders. Like every medicament it has some side effects, but these are minor against a severe case of Covid.
73 Reds Posted October 4, 2025 Posted October 4, 2025 12 hours ago, Parsad said: Actually, I would lobby for mandatory flu shots...I get them every year. The side effects of soreness, redness, fatigue, etc are short-term and most other side effects are extremely low. Also please don't pretend that Covid vaccine side effects are significantly higher than what is seen statistically...which is very low. Cheers! Statistics are not the point. But your post clearly illustrates the distinction between the left's desire for more govt. mandates/control and the opposition's policy of more individual freedom of thought and less govt. intrusion. Personally, I'd never choose to live in a place where your polices rule the day.
Spekulatius Posted October 4, 2025 Posted October 4, 2025 12 hours ago, Castanza said: Lol and now he’s running for mayor No wonder people role the dice on Mamdani with candidates like this. Adams is already out - this guy was totally corrupt.
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