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[Jurgis]

Now Trump is the democrats' fault!!

 

Hold on, so that means Trumpers should thank Democrats for their great achievement of electing Trump.

 

And if Trumpers are unhappy about Trump being elected and blame it on Democrats, hey, there's two great ways to fix it: Trumpers have the Senate. They also have an election in November.

 

But hey just vote Trump! Give idiocracy a second chance! Electrolytes against Covid!

 

Take the argument to its logical conclusion, and German jews are to blame for Hitler's rise to power, because they weren't able to stop him. Trumper logic, QED.

 

You are not wrong: German jews were actually blamed for Hitler's rise to power.

[ERICOPOLY]

 

You couldn't find examples of divisiveness? The constant identity politics and race baiting? The stuff now coming to light about abuses of power? Constantly throwing public servants under the bus while refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA?

 

Theres a huge difference between people who say "I see this stuff but it is what it is and both sides do it" and the folks that genuinely believe its only the "other side" that does it.

 

You couldn't find examples of divisiveness? The constant identity politics and race baiting?

 

In what manner was Obama divisive?  What identity politics?  Race baiting?  Come on, you don't believe that.  Was he speaking out against immigration?  Travel bans on muslims?  Come on.  He went out of his way to be politically correct (he's a Liberal).  Trump is like the complete opposite and runs his mouth against the other half of the country that identifies as Liberal on an almost daily basis.

 

There is nothing coming to light about abuses of power under Obama;  Trump was impeached because of his abuse of power and this rubbish about Obama is his political response

[Liberty]

Now Trump is the democrats' fault!!

 

Hold on, so that means Trumpers should thank Democrats for their great achievement of electing Trump.

 

And if Trumpers are unhappy about Trump being elected and blame it on Democrats, hey, there's two great ways to fix it: Trumpers have the Senate. They also have an election in November.

 

But hey just vote Trump! Give idiocracy a second chance! Electrolytes against Covid!

 

Take the argument to its logical conclusion, and German jews are to blame for Hitler's rise to power, because they weren't able to stop him. Trumper logic, QED.

 

You are not wrong: German jews were actually blamed for Hitler's rise to power.

 

[Gregmal]

You couldn't find examples of divisiveness? The constant identity politics and race baiting? The stuff now coming to light about abuses of power? Constantly throwing public servants under the bus while refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA?

 

Theres a huge difference between people who say "I see this stuff but it is what it is and both sides do it" and the folks that genuinely believe its only the "other side" that does it.

 

If Obama's rhetoric got this much under your skin but you're fine with Trump, you're a weird one-way snowflake. I notice you never give concrete examples of what you're talking about, because hey, fact-checking may ruin the illusion or show that it's peccadillos compared to Trump.

 

As for you making stuff up, yeah, Obama's admin wasn't particularly corrupt. Probably less than average, while Trump is off the charts bonkers.

 

So in summary:

 

I didn't give examples of Trump either, so what? I said it doesnt matter whether I am fine with it or not, there's nothing I can do about either.

 

And yea, great that you are resorting to the "scale" of corruption to measures the "degrees" to which Obama was (subjectively and non fact based) "less corrupt" than "average"... got it.

[cubsfan]

Obama legacy:

 

- The great American spying on his political opponents - only a corrupt politician like Obama would do this, KNOWING he would not

get caught because Hillary was destined to be President. OOPS Barack - Trump won - and now you are fucked unless you can impeach him!

 

- IRS used to silence conservative political action groups by use of widespread extensive audits. OOPS Lois Lerner - you take the fall for Barack!

 

- Disaster at Benghazi, killing 4 heroes. Barrack/Hillary leave the guys to die. NO PROBLEM. Blame it on a "fake video". OOPS Susan Rice, you take the fall this time.

 

- How about those "red lines" in Crimea and Syria.  Boy, oh boy - you really deterred Putin and ISIS.  Sorry Ukraine - no help from gutless Obama,

while ISIS praises Obama for a place to HQ their Caliphate until Trump OBLITERATES ISIS.

 

- Nice deal with Iran - given them billions and nuclear material at the same time!  What a pussy!  Thanks for keeping the world "safe" with

unlimited funding for the world's leading sponsor of terrorist.

 

- Piss off Israel, while kissing Iran's ass. Hey dumbshit - now Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are all ALLIED AGAINST Iran because of Trump!

  Even the Saudis and Egyptians know Iran can not be trusted with Nukes. Nice Work Barrack!

 

That is QUITE a LEGACY Barrack - but don't worry - you did get a Noble Prize.

 

You guys are a joke - not only was Obama a EMPTY SUIT, but he was a Criminal too!

 

 

[Gregmal]

What are the odds that a liberal finds his guy to be less corrupt than the opposing party's guy? You guys sound like 8 year olds arguing about their favorite sports team..."My team is the best because they are my team"....Yea, real shocking Liberty, that you find the Democrat to be less corrupt than the Republican..... please. Who'd have thunk it? Shocking, ERICOPOLY doesnt think Obama did anything wrong...Shocking #metoo was a revolution until it hit Biden....then we bring back the presumption of innocence and stop believing all women...

[ERICOPOLY]

Obama legacy:

 

- The great American spying on his political opponents - only a corrupt politician like Obama would do this, KNOWING he would not

get caught because Hillary was destined to be President. OOPS Barack - Trump won - and now you are fucked unless you can impeach him!

 

- IRS used to silence conservative political action groups by use of widespread extensive audits. OOPS Lois Lerner - you take the fall for Barack!

 

- Disaster at Benghazi, killing 4 heroes. Barrack/Hillary leave the guys to die. NO PROBLEM. Blame it on a "fake video". OOPS Susan Rice, you take the fall this time.

 

- How about those "red lines" in Crimea and Syria.  Boy, oh boy - you really deterred Putin and ISIS.  Sorry Ukraine - no help from gutless Obama,

while ISIS praises Obama for a place to HQ their Caliphate until Trump OBLITERATES ISIS.

 

- Nice deal with Iran - given them billions and nuclear material at the same time!  What a pussy!  Thanks for keeping the world "safe" with

unlimited funding for the world's leading sponsor of terrorist.

 

- Piss off Israel, while kissing Iran's ass. Hey dumbshit - now Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are all ALLIED AGAINST Iran because of Trump!

  Even the Saudis and Egyptians know Iran can not be trusted with Nukes. Nice Work Barrack!

 

That is QUITE a LEGACY Barrack - but don't worry - you did get a Noble Prize.

 

You guys are a joke - not only was Obama a EMPTY SUIT, but he was a Criminal too!

 

If there was corruption, there would be indictments and people going to jail.  Trump's IRS admitted that there had been wrongdoing (shocking).

 

Ryan Chittum of the Columbia Journalism Review reported in 2011 that a number of non-profit news organizations saw their applications delayed for years after being flagged for additional review.[48] In 2013, Chittum linked that scrutiny to the investigation, reporting that non-profit news organizations and Tea Party groups were placed in the same "Emerging Issues" category by IRS reviewers, which was a category flagged for additional questioning. He stated that "Rather than the Nixonian conspiracy that George Will and The Wall Street Journal editorial page so darkly warned about—with zero evidence—you have a routine bureaucratic procedure meant to bundle potentially problematic applicants together for further review."[39]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

 

Obama asked for more IRS funding, but instead the IRS budget was cut.

[ERICOPOLY]

Shocking, ERICOPOLY doesnt think Obama did anything wrong...

 

Name it, what did he do wrong?  Tell us.

[vikx01]

Can you folks please move the politics-y comments to a thread in the politics section?

[DooDiligence]

Shocking, ERICOPOLY doesnt think Obama did anything wrong...

 

Name it, what did he do wrong?  Tell us.

 

You're being trolled by punks who enjoy eliciting reactions without threat of losing their teeth.

[Gregmal]

Shocking, ERICOPOLY doesnt think Obama did anything wrong...

 

Name it, what did he do wrong?  Tell us.

 

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

[Gregmal]

LOL unreal...when Liberty spam blasts propaganda, it's cool... when some one else dare address the other side, it's trolling...My team is the best because its my team....

[jschembs]

This thread is going to cause COBF to collapse upon itself and vanish into some distant galaxy.

[Liberty]

Can't ever admit wrong:

 

"Trump says he's talking hydroxychloroquine "right now." He says he started "a couple weeks ago." He explains, "Because I think it's good. I've heard a lot of good stories.""

 

Asked if the WH doctor recommended he take hydroxychloroquine, he said he asked and the doctor said, "Yeah, White House doctor...no, I asked him, 'What do you think?' He said, 'Well if you'd like it.' I said 'Yeah I'd like it. I'd like to take it. A lot of people are taking it.'"

 

Trump: "So far, I seem to be okay." Asked why he started taking this drug, he said he's gotten "so many letters," "a lot of positive letters," "and it seems to have an impact - maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.

 

Trump, who just said that his evidence for the preventative value of hydroxychloroquine is that "I get a lot of positive calls," now says the study showing higher death rates for hydroxy patients at the VA is "a very unscientific report."

 

 

Funny thing is, there's a high chance he's not even taking it, because you can never fully believe what he says.

[Liberty]

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

 

That's the worst you can say about Obama? Man, he must've been a total angel.

[Gregmal]

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

 

That's the worst you can say about Obama? Man, he must've been a total angel.

 

No, you said give an example. I did. Does this game ever end?

[Liberty]

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

 

That's the worst you can say about Obama? Man, he must've been a total angel.

 

No, you said give an example. I did. Does this game ever end?

 

I'm telling you your example is really really really unimpressive. He didn't denounce a group. Wow. Most corrupt president ever.

 

Anyway, this is irrelevant to Coronavirus, Trump is the one in charge and on-topic when looking at how this crisis is being handled.

[Jurgis]

Can't ever admit wrong:

 

"Trump says he's talking hydroxychloroquine "right now." He says he started "a couple weeks ago." He explains, "Because I think it's good. I've heard a lot of good stories.""

 

Asked if the WH doctor recommended he take hydroxychloroquine, he said he asked and the doctor said, "Yeah, White House doctor...no, I asked him, 'What do you think?' He said, 'Well if you'd like it.' I said 'Yeah I'd like it. I'd like to take it. A lot of people are taking it.'"

 

Trump: "So far, I seem to be okay." Asked why he started taking this drug, he said he's gotten "so many letters," "a lot of positive letters," "and it seems to have an impact - maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.

 

Trump, who just said that his evidence for the preventative value of hydroxychloroquine is that "I get a lot of positive calls," now says the study showing higher death rates for hydroxy patients at the VA is "a very unscientific report."

 

 

Funny thing is, there's a high chance he's not even taking it, because you can never fully believe what he says.

 

 

I said so... but those liberals tried to stop me from making the Presidente great again.

[ERICOPOLY]

Shocking #metoo was a revolution until it hit Biden....then we bring back the presumption of innocence and stop believing all women...

 

Oh really, now Bill Clinton's accusers aren't women?  It's the particular woman that they don't believe, not all women.

[Liberty]

Shocking #metoo was a revolution until it hit Biden....then we bring back the presumption of innocence and stop believing all women...

 

Oh really, now Bill Clinton's accusers aren't women?  It's the particular woman that they don't believe, not all women.

 

Isn't Harvey Weinstein a huge democrat? Crosby too, I'd guess. Didn't they also cancel that senator comedia and Louis CK and a bunch of other lefties?

[ERICOPOLY]

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

 

That's the worst you can say about Obama? Man, he must've been a total angel.

 

No, you said give an example. I did. Does this game ever end?

 

You appear to be playing a game.  Tell us your worst so the game can end.

[Gregmal]

Shocking #metoo was a revolution until it hit Biden....then we bring back the presumption of innocence and stop believing all women...

 

Oh really, now Bill Clinton's accusers aren't women?  It's the particular woman that they don't believe, not all women.

 

Isn't Harvey Weinstein a huge democrat? Crosby too, I'd guess. Didn't they also cancel that senator comedia and Louis CK and a bunch of other lefties?

 

Harvey Weinstein aint the Democratic nominee bud.

[Gregmal]

You dont think throwing law enforcement officers under the under and refusing to denounce hate groups like ANTIFA is wrong? Actually, never mind, I'm sure theres some slant or justification. The folks who chastised Trump for saying things like "there are good people on both sides" were radio silent when Obama regularly did stuff like this. Its a shame we cant just be honest about things on both sides.

 

That's the worst you can say about Obama? Man, he must've been a total angel.

 

No, you said give an example. I did. Does this game ever end?

 

You appear to be playing a game.  Tell us your worst so the game can end.

 

I guess my game is "bad is bad". Not "when my guy does it we ignore it, when the Republican does it we foam at the mouth". Dont worry, you're winning that one.

 

You voted for a guy who championed the game of "you disagree with me because you're racist" and now bitch and moan about the guy who says all journalists are lying scum.... and worse, you cant even see the common element.

[ERICOPOLY]

I guess my game is "bad is bad".

 

That's not it, but you're about to reveal what your game is.

 

Not "when my guy does it we ignore it, when the Republican does it we foam at the mouth". Dont worry, you're winning that one.

 

You voted for a guy who championed the game of "you disagree with me because you're racist" and now bitch and moan about the guy who says all journalists are lying scum.... and worse, you cant even see the common element.

 

And there it is, that's your game.  You make personal attacks instead of debate points.  Smear. 

[Gregmal]

I guess my game is "bad is bad".

 

That's not it, but you're about to reveal what your game is.

 

Not "when my guy does it we ignore it, when the Republican does it we foam at the mouth". Dont worry, you're winning that one.

 

You voted for a guy who championed the game of "you disagree with me because you're racist" and now bitch and moan about the guy who says all journalists are lying scum.... and worse, you cant even see the common element.

 

And there it is, that's your game.  You make personal attacks instead of debate points.  Smear. 

 

Pointing out who you voted for and what he did(or as you asked for, an example of his behavior) is a personal attack? ok then