Jaygo Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Hektor said: I would be surprised if WEB is not. He for one most likely would be monitoring the $ flowing from ACME (and every other business) into HQ. He's 94 years old. I think it is unlikely. Maybe a quick glance at the numbers on paper but not a real assermentent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hjorth Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 @Masterofnone, Here are some data : Liquid assets at Berkshire holding company level : That's USD 21.706 B at YE2023. Then we have dividend restrictions [without prior regulative approval] in the insurance companies [where most of the money is] at about USD 31 B : Then we have the shares outstanding at July 21st 2024 : A shares : 533,234 B shares : 1,325,192,509. A USD 20 dividend per B share thus expropriates USD [[533,234*1,500]+ 1,325,192,509] * 20 = USD 2,125,044,509 * 20 = USD 42,500,870,180 [USD 42.5 B] of cash in the group system. - - - o 0 o - - - I'm not ruling anything out here. But I consider it highly unlikely. - - - o 0 o - - - Also, I try - speculatively, yes, - to visualize, inside my head, a meeting between Greg Abel and Ajit Jain, Abel telling Jain, that now is the piggy bank getting slaughtered for the sake of a dividend, so that the underwriting capacity in the insurance companies is getting limited going forward. I think [speculate] that Jain in such scenario would pack his personal stuff, turn in his resignation, leave office, and call it day, after now almost 40 years at Berkshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 https://www.barrons.com/amp/articles/berkshire-apple-stake-sale-buffett-9a672779 Yet no mention of possibility of AAPL price increasing because BRK had stopped selling:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodstove Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 On 10/15/2024 at 10:27 AM, Xerxes said: There was a short CNBC interview with BRK board member back at the AGM, where she made it clear that there will be no regular dividends, but perhaps one day special dividend. Lots of talented investors, but how to tell them from lucky coin-flippers (per WEB intro to Ben Graham's Intelligent Investor)? If you don't know -- and life is uncertain -- I like the discipline of money manager given X capital to work with, "forced" to return about 4 pct of capital to investors. Can be a variety of ways - special or regular dividends, repurchases to reduce number of shares, spinoffs, etc. But having to make concrete return annually reduces a bit of the agent-ego risk. If business is well managed but context is difficult, and cannot return 4 pct of capital annually, well then, let the business shrink. One can play with the numbers and spreadsheets. It's the discipline that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sholland Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 23 hours ago, Jaygo said: Do you think anyone at HQ is looking at ACME Brink to ensure its being run in the best way possible….Managers must be managed and the bigger the wider the assortment of businesses the tougher this becomes. Buffett gets monthly numbers on all the businesses. Buffett and Munger believe that have having honest and able managers and getting out of their way (bureaucracy is like a cancer) is the reason that Berkshire works so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hjorth Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 'Delegation verging to abdication'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CassiusKing1 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Man do I miss Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldad Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Greg Warren downgraded the moat to Narrow at Morningstar. Basically cap allocation brilliance going away. Too big combined with no WB. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hektor Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-23/warren-buffett-says-he-won-t-endorse-any-political-candidates Warren Buffett Says He Won’t Endorse Any Political Candidates Warren Buffett said he won’t back any political candidates, two weeks before US citizens head to the polls to elect the country’s next president. The 94-year-old billionaire’s position was laid out in a statement posted on the website of his conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hektor Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 From the BRK website https://berkshirehathaway.com/webfraud.pdf Fraudulent Claims Regarding Mr. Buffett’s Endorsements of Investment Products and Political Candidates In light of the increased usage of social media, there have been numerous fraudulent claims regarding Mr. Buffett’s endorsement of investment products as well as his endorsement and support of political candidates. Mr. Buffett does not currently and will not prospectively endorse investment products or endorse and support political candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldad Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 3 hours ago, Hektor said: From the BRK website https://berkshirehathaway.com/webfraud.pdf Fraudulent Claims Regarding Mr. Buffett’s Endorsements of Investment Products and Political Candidates In light of the increased usage of social media, there have been numerous fraudulent claims regarding Mr. Buffett’s endorsement of investment products as well as his endorsement and support of political candidates. Mr. Buffett does not currently and will not prospectively endorse investment products or endorse and support political candidates. Good decision. Crazy the political difference between Hillary and Kamala in just 8 years. But even if that is not the reason, good decision to keep your mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) Jim Grant says ‘the greatest equity investor’ — Warren Buffett — is trying to warn you about US stocks and is supposedly choosing this 1 asset class over equities. Should you follow suit? https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/jim-grant-says-the-greatest-equity-investor-warren-buffett-is-trying-to-warn-you-about-us-stocks-and-is-supposedly-choosing-this-1-asset-class-over-equities-should-you-follow-suit/ar-AA1t7Sx8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f28e9d8bad8040e39d30bb19615f5ab1&ei=12 Cheers! Edited October 29 by Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogermunibond Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Treasury bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hjorth Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, Charlie said: Jim Grant says ‘the greatest equity investor’ — Warren Buffett — is trying to warn you about US stocks and is supposedly choosing this 1 asset class over equities. Should you follow suit? https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/jim-grant-says-the-greatest-equity-investor-warren-buffett-is-trying-to-warn-you-about-us-stocks-and-is-supposedly-choosing-this-1-asset-class-over-equities-should-you-follow-suit/ar-AA1t7Sx8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f28e9d8bad8040e39d30bb19615f5ab1&ei=12 Cheers! 8 minutes ago, rogermunibond said: Treasury bills @Charlie & @rogermunibond, Personally, I think Jim Grant in the above doesn't really hit the disc with this assessment. The calculation for Berkshire is just so different on 'riding and rolling US Treasury Bills' than for almost everyone else, because - no matter what your view may be on it - a material part of those T-Bills can be argued to be financed by insurance float. Insurance float held by the undisputed world champion in generating, holding and maintaining insurance float. It is a low margin business, yes, so it requires scale. And scale there is, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Reds Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 8 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: @Charlie & @rogermunibond, Personally, I think Jim Grant in the above doesn't really hit the disc with this assessment. The calculation for Berkshire is just so different on 'riding and rolling US Treasury Bills' than for almost everyone else, because - no matter what your view may be on it - a material part of those T-Bills can be argued to be financed by insurance float. Insurance float held by the undisputed world champion in generating, holding and maintaining insurance float. It is a low margin business, yes, so it requires scale. And scale there is, indeed. Has anyone made money following Jim Grant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatstheofficerproblem Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 https://valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BERKSHIRE_HATHAWAY/4105781453#description I want what this guy is smoking. The comments pretty much laugh at the write-up. The quality of VIC write-ups has been going downhill for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldad Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Looks like US Taxes are more likely to go down than up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulti Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 https://brklyninvestor.com/2024/11/06/cash/ yay .. excellent read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted Saturday at 02:20 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:20 AM FT: Warren Buffett’s Apple share sales and cash pile spark intrigue over motives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted Sunday at 11:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:58 PM Buffett had said on record that he has no interest in Occidental. Yet given his view on inflation and the significance amount of liquidation of Apple and Bank of America positions, the pausing of the passive weekly purchases of Occidental, it is possible that Occidental may indeed the target. The M&A activity should be picking up across the board with the new regime in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydragon Posted Monday at 01:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:04 AM 1 hour ago, Xerxes said: Buffett had said on record that he has no interest in Occidental. Yet given his view on inflation and the significance amount of liquidation of Apple and Bank of America positions, the pausing of the passive weekly purchases of Occidental, it is possible that Occidental may indeed the target. The M&A activity should be picking up across the board with the new regime in Washington. if he has to get regulatory approval to buy up to 50% of shares, would be he allowed to buy the whole company? Also, if he want to buy the whole company, won’t he be buying more now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted Monday at 02:15 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:15 AM 1 hour ago, sleepydragon said: if he has to get regulatory approval to buy up to 50% of shares, would be he allowed to buy the whole company? Also, if he want to buy the whole company, won’t he be buying more now? Any offer for the remaining 70% would have always been subject to regulatory approval. It is no different than had he owned none of it, and than made an offer. Like he did with Allenghany. Berkshire owns 30% or so; enough to have influence to block any major making a move toward it, for 3 years now. Maybe that was the reason for the passive stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted Monday at 05:21 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:21 AM 3 hours ago, Xerxes said: Berkshire owns 30% or so; enough to have influence to block any major making a move toward it, for 3 years now. Maybe that was the reason for the passive stake. it does scream classic Buffett to strike some deal where OXY pays him a percentage to accumulate enough stock to block any takeovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpioncapital Posted Monday at 05:48 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:48 AM well he could sell his chevron stake and own 100% of oxy, I would imagine the total exposure to oil would be similar yet he'd control 100% of the cashflows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydragon Posted Monday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:14 PM Crude down 3% , OXY up almost 1%… can someone explain why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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