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Yet you spent days debating theology, morality, and the existence of God on the other thread I care about the above to the extent that they affect ME, End of story.

Plenty of groups are told they're "wrong" every day in America. The idea that as a you can't question something and should just accept it is nonsense. But you SHOULD TOLERATE it. Those are two different things. Freedom of opposing viewpoints and thought is what helped make America the country it is. But as Greg said, you can't even say someone is fat anymore. I mean America has had an obesity crisis for decades and our final solution as a country is to just accept that? I mean weight related issues are the number one cause of death in the country. It was a primary co-morbidity during covid. It doesn't make sense. Do people come in all different sizes? Yes. Should people be respected? yes. Should heavier people have brands catering specific clothing lines, gear, etc. to them? Yes. Should we be shitting on people who are fit? No, Should we be saying it's ok and "good" to be fat? No. I think about that from a universal healthcare standpoint. Tbh why should I be forced to pay and care about your health status when you don't even care about it yourself? The country can do better on issues like this, but nobody wants to have real honest conversations because some people might "feel bad." so it's impossible to address. Anyways this is way off topic now. I've avoided politics on here for the better part of a year but this topic drug me back in.

Exactly, and o think a lot of the issue is because you’ve mixed two wildly different things together. Being gay is nowhere near trans imo. They are about as far apart as Democrat and Republican.

I would Now if my kid said they were some variation of pansexual she wolf and they want me to use 10 different pronouns based on the day of the week. I’ll be getting them some counseling and following up with the adults in their sphere of influence.

Never said I had problems with “gays”. Don’t put words in my mouth.

Exactly, and not to mention all the negative health effects that come with hormone replacement therapy, chemical castration, puberty blockers and sex change surgeries. All of these have increased risk levels of infections, diseases and cancer. @dwy000 Live and let live is fine. I don't care if someone wants to cut off their arms and legs and chooses to identify as a bowling pin. But that has no place in the public school system or at the tops of government buildings. I don't want teachers or people who have their own personal ideologies forcing this stuff on my children or taking advantage of them and then telling them to "keep it from their parents." It's happening all over the place. I don't want that nonsense taught, the same way I don't want flat earth, young earth or scientology taught. If you choose to do something as an individual that is not the norm in society, you don't get to then dictate the rules for everyone else and force legislation on them. As Sweet said, it's damaging to the gay community. I'll also add it's damaging to women, its damaging to men, it's damaging to science, healthcare and the list continues. Institutions are to educate not indoctrinate. Doctors are to "Do no harm" Society needs norms rooted in objective truth to function. Your brain isn't even fully developed till you're like 25. You think a prepubescents teen knows what they "should be." Some kids think they are dogs at 6 maybe we should put a leash on them, change their name to Sparky and feed them kibbles. What ever happened to the idea of adults and specifically parents guiding their kids through life and helping them overcome or make sense of confusing things? The idea that you can be born in the wrong body is insane and unscientific. 10 years ago is you were a 18 year old male and went to the doctor asking for a vasectomy's you would likely be turned away with the response of "you need more time to think about this decision" . Now you can go at 15 and ask to have your balls cut off, your penis turned inside out and have estrogen pumped into your system. That's not healthcare.

First of all I have ZERO problem with people being gay. I have gay friends even went to a gay wedding. I have a problem with trans because it is a mental disorder. I have a problem with teaching this unscientific cult like nonsense to children in the public school system. I have a problem with legislation that takes the rights of consent away from parents for underage children. I have a problem with the trans communities obsession with sexualizing young kids. You don't have to accept that and that's fine. But I think you should do more research before you jump on the bandwagon. The idea that people cannot be "nurtured" into something is laughable at best. Here is just one case that took all but five seconds to find. https://t.co/vjIYwBdu15 pic.twitter.com/4RPXG1o7zg Oh and a few more "normal clearly sound of mind individuals" for you.... Go check out the channel https://www.youtube.com/@TheQuartering/shorts

Wtf does this have to do with Donald Trump? But last I checked he was the he who signed Gay Marriage into law. What rights are being restricted? Epstein is trash and his list was full of elites from all over. Again, completely irrelevant to the conversation. I'll make this my last post on the topic only to say I think society needs to figure out what is appropriate in inappropriate. What has and hasn't changed as far as humans go and what framework makes sense moving forward. Personally I want to live in one that embraces reality and truth the same way 2 + 2 = 4. I think we should understand the consequences of the trans/sex change surgeries before foisting them on kids. So far the data does not look good. Cancer extremely high rates with hormone therapy and puberty blockers. Also very high increase rates post surgery. Mental improvements have been shown to be very little if any as suicide rates rise. I would gladly pay much more in taxes to address the multitude to mental problems that plague society currently. And it's my personal opinion that drugs, media, the internet and more specifically social media have had a major impact on all of the above. Time will tell. Again, you think the “group” is much smaller than it is. This type of stuff below is happening all over. You good with this? Someone who regrets their “transition”

Should have said roots* and I was referring to the John Money Alfred Kinsey stuff. Where the idea of trans comes from and their failed and sick experiments, terrible outcomes.

Im not ok with it in any form. My point is you and many others like to use Catholic Priests or churches as some cornerstone argument. When you look at the stats it’s the same as the general population. Anyone who does it should be castrated. You know what they use to castrate sex offenders? The same drug they use to castrate children’s getting sex changes. Your second statement is completely false. The suicide rate doesn’t change after surgery. We live in a world that is more accepting than ever of this. Frankly your level of research into the topic is appallingly dismal. The dude on the BudLight can is an adult male who pretends to be a little girl. Who does it harm? I think it harms society. It harms kids and confuses people in vulnerable mental states. Idk about you but I think a society that has objective truth is important. It’s completely unscientific and lunacy. Laws and legislation affect me.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-certain-madness-amok/ Yup here is a relevant one.

The twin that started it all with John Money regretted it and blew his brains out. The very first one. It’s mind boggling how little people know about the roots of the “trans” movement. Kinsey would sexually assault kids and babies and track how many organisms they had. Then in classic Hollywood fashion they make a movie about him starring Liam Neeson and give it rave reviews.

The molestation rate among the Catholic Church is in line with the general population. The suicide rate alone of the trans community speaks for itself. There are tons of people who regret it. There are tons of kids who are pushed into it by their psycho parents. If you don’t see that you aren’t looking close enough. There is a non small percentage of teachers who actively tell and “groom” kids to be gay, bi, non binary etc. It happens more places than you think. Here in my town a teacher was telling boys in elementary school who were just bros and best friends that “maybe your relationship is more than you think” and the. Explaining to 7 and 8 years olds what they meant in further detail. You really think kids can’t be tricked or pushed to believe things?

Lol not that he shouldn’t have been arrested but I hear your point. Ran into a former teacher this past year. Asked why he retired and he said “I got out once I realized the inmates were running the show” lmao pretty much how society is at this point.

Eh this stuff is hit or miss. I got a quote on a new roof March 2022 and March 2023. Average price was 6-7k cheaper in 2023.

In a Roth IRA? Aren't these all self managed for the most part?

Haven't seen anyone mention Buffett dumping his TSM shares yet. Seems to be more open to the idea that conflict could arise. Maybe nothing more than just hedging his portfolio risk.

Google alerts is still the a great simple way to do this. TIKR is also a pretty good service that condenses headlines around companies you want to follow on your watchlist.

They are likely there to train troops. Unconventional warfare is what they do best and training up troops from unconventional backgrounds is their bread and butter. Ukrainian forces have been struggling with medical triage and communication. Both two things SOF excel at. US SOF has operated in that region for decades already so it’s not really surprising. Typical ODA is a 12 man team so it seems even more likely thats what it is with maybe two additional heads to report two. If they were there to kick down doors it likely wouldn’t be SOF units but more likely Spec Ops units like the SEALs. Seems like direct action would be a poor use of those multi million dollar troops though so I’d keep my guess with the training side.

Time will tell but I bet you’ll be wrong on the numbers. This is very much wing crammed into the minds of young kids by adults who have personal fetishes with stuff. As I said I don’t care what two consenting adults do. But leave the kids alone. I don’t think it’s appropriate to have Drag Queen story hour. Do we have strippers going to schools and dancing for kids or having talks with them? No Its a weak argument to say “well this has always happened in humanity so why not now.” Pedophilia, incest, molestation, etc. have also always happened. Doesn’t mean we should allow it now. I also don’t really understand the drag thing and to a greater extent “trans”. Are they not in the same line as say Blackface or other cultural/racial appropriation. They are appropriating women not just in looks, but activates, scholarships, etc. Men are winning women of the year awards. It’s hurting real women’s achievements which is absurd. I mean there is literally a guy who says he is a young woman that is getting sponsors from Budlight, Nike, L’Oréal, etc. The forced speech and attack on intellectual integrity bothers me most. This group cannot even define what a “Woman” is but yet they can rewrite and redefine basic human biology? I think it’s nonsense. And I don’t understand why people are feeding into it. On the medical side there is a lot of money to be made. Look up the Vanderbilt situation. Threatening doctors who don’t agree with the surgeries. Making 50k a pop off young kids. Personally I’m not going to use your pronouns or call you a woman if you think your a man. The same way I’m not going to tell you you’re fat if you struggle with Anorexia and see yourself as overweight when you look in a mirror. ————— No comment on the second part of my above comment regarding the riots of this movement?

I don’t care if you’re gay or into drag. Keep that shit to yourself and out of public schools. Keep it away from kids. Last I checked the Mormons and other religious leaders don’t have full blown indoctrination lessons in public school. Can’t buy a beer till you’re 21 but hey let’s give kids sex change surgery at 14 and younger. If you can’t see the difference of now vs 20 years ago the YOU are the one who is being ignorant. It has always been around, but it has existed on the fringe of society. I mean are you ok with men pretending to be women and ruining women’s sports? You’re ok with parents letting their kids take Lupron which chemically castrates them? Or how about getting their dick mutilated, turned inside out and shoved in their body and calling that a vagina? Their breast cut off. It’s unscientific nonsense. Again, you can call me an ignorant twat. I really don’t care. There is objective truth in the world. And the majority of this LGBTQ nonsense doesn’t fit the mold. It’s an ideology and it’s brainwashing kids. The chart speaks for itself with regards to historical norms. Where is the line in the sand for you Sanjeev? Do you even know who John Money and Alfred Kinsey are and what they did?

Yup just like the UK. Ban guns ok, then end up with increased stabbing and burglars with a license to rob knowing they have nothing to worry about. UK solution: metal detectors on sidewalks.

Idk man this time feels different. Leaders of the free world embrace this shit below. The internet and technology has exacerbated the worst of humanity. A society that can’t even protect its kids is a failed one imo. Drugs are rampant all over as well. Stores are big. Looted in masses. None of this has happened before. Kensington Ave

Yeah and how many kids die from drinking and driving every year regardless of the price restriction on purchase. It's the same argument you make that "because guns are available it creates problems." Well so does alcohol....you are picking and choosing what you want to live with. 18 = Adult in case you forgot. Congress can send an 18 year old to war to die for their country.

I would gladly ship a lot of these useless, entitled and lazy conservatives and liberals somewhere else in exchange for individuals who want to work and make a life for themselves. The difference between now and the early 1900's is we've moved from a largely industrial/agricultural society to a consumer/intellectual one. There simply are not the type of jobs for every uneducated person coming here to have a good life. In the end the lowest jobs just give you a floundering life with ever increasing costs. the cards are stacked against you in the "Land of Freedom" which leads to crime, gangs, drugs, Violence. Yes there is a big need in the trades, but much of this could be solved from within if out shit education system, didn't tell the last two generations that an Accounting/Business degree is far more valuable than learning to be a dumb plumber or electrician. I think the US specifically is in a place where it needs to be picky with immigration. Recruit the best and bring them here. I'm sorry but you simply can't bring large amounts of people from third world countries here and expect them to fit in. At least not without some type of program etc. As I said above, I work with some and let me tell you they STRUGGLE hard at first. It takes a shit ton of effort to help them understand simple societal norms. But being they are human beings, they are able to learn and generally adapt. But it can take years. When I was in HS, I had a summer gig driving a Jeep Wrangler around to Shale pads and testing water in their retention ponds. There was a story I was told by a few gas workers about some well guys from Bolivia who hit a deer in a company truck, then took it to their hotel bathroom and gutted it in the bathtub. Grocery store across the street and a TGI Fridays below.