I think you're responding to me but I ended up deleting my post.
Yes, as mentioned, the stated income/no income verification loans are coming back. As a RE investor, I'm loving it.
I think the underwriting is still okay since they only letting me do a cash out refi at 65% LTV with rates in low 4%, 30 Years fixed.
I got other properties with higher than 5% loans. Can't wait to refi those!