Russia-Ukrainian War - Political

[Xerxes]

5 minutes ago, LC said:

Putin could end the war any day he wants by removing his troops from Ukrainian land.

Lay the blame where it belongs.

True. 
but geopolitics has far more to do with national interests, than the “blame” game. 

[cubsfan]

17 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

 

Unfortunately, they are going to make him crawl and beg for it. Not good. 

 

It is much better for Ukraine this way. Ukraine has to realize that the country MUST want peace

if they wish anymore US involvement.  Perhaps Zelensky is not the leader they need.

 

But cutting off aid is a very serious message that Trump means business, regardless of who is negotiating for Ukraine.   Better to have the information now, then drag this out for their country.

 

Also,  it's very good to be clear with the leaders of Europe what is the US position.

Edited 5 hours ago by cubsfan

[Gregmal]

I mean even if one knew absolutely nothing, say you take a 5 year old….they could look at a map and see Russia and Ukraine and a conflict is certainly within the realm of possibility. Lots of reasons a lot of things could happen.
 

So once again we apply the same situation, looking at a map, and one is again left with wondering, WTF does the US have to do with this, and why is it involved? And any bit of history will inform one that since the Cold War, the US has basically done everything it can to provoke and weaken Russia. And then go back and tell their citizens they’re promoting democracy and anything to the contrary is evil dictator Putins misinformation. 

[sleepydragon]

It’s interesting and surprising that the official tvs in china have a change of tone and are singing praises for Ukrainian. I think the peace deal is not good for Xi. Lower the risk for china to attack taiwan as Russia will be on the US side and will be free to take advantage of it when Chinese military is moved south.

 

[Ghost]

Pause of Ukraine aid.  

 

Is that another signal that Mr. Trump wants to dump the G7 and join BRICS?

 

Why not?  As other posters have mentioned BRICS is growing, they control a bigger portion of World GDP and the BRICS contain over half the worlds population.

Time to dump the losers and move with the winners?  

 

Divorce can be painful. 

[Spekulatius]

If Trump really wants out of the international arena why is he involved in a peace deal in Ukraine that nobody but Russia wants (because he sides with them), makes a move on Greenland and plans to create a Las Vegas Trump resort in Gaza? This doesn’t look like a focus on domestic policies to me.

 

The thing is that Trump doesn’t want out, he can’t stand not being in the center of attention and thinks that everyone has to dance to his fiddle even if he stops putting anything in.

In the meantime he is moving towards to make America an old fashioned 19th century Imperialist power which will manifest itself likely in a move on Greenland next. It would not be too surprised if little green men show up there and they won’t be from Russia.

[Parsad]

3 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Do we really need to question whom has an incentive to keep the war going? It couldn't possibly be the guy who's now spent the past few years jet setting around like a celebrity, from Hollywood to DC, you name it, hanging out with celebrities and world leaders, taking in billions in unaudited cash, could it? He's on numerous occasions refused to work towards a resolution. Instead he just keeps demanding more money and more weapons and now that there's finally strings attached he throws a fit? 

 

Wait, you're questioning the integrity of a guy fighting to keep his country and himself alive, while the biggest huckster in U.S. history lives and rules the White House?  And all of his minion hucksters are sucking at his teets as he sows chaos around the world.  This reminds me of the Omen III, when Damien became President.  Trump isn't Jesus, he's the devil incarnate! 

 

Maybe the Christian right will get to witness The Rapture...only they'll be on the wrong side of it!  Cheers!

[Mephistopheles]

Those blaming Ukraine for the war, and for not having a ceasefire is the equivalent of those who blame Israel for 10/7 and not having a ceasefire.

 

Should the US support Ukraine? Israel? Taiwan? South Korea? I’m inclined to believe that there are benefits to being the world’s most powerful military and offering a security umbrella.

[Xerxes]

The left wants a cease fire in Gaza. But a continuation of war in Ukraine no matter what. 
 

The right wants destruction of Gaza and revenge, but ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia. 
 

 

Both sides believe they are in the right. Go figure. 

[Mephistopheles]

5 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

The left wants a cease fire in Gaza. But a continuation of war in Ukraine no matter what. 
 

The right wants destruction of Gaza and revenge, but ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia. 
 

 

Both sides believe they are in the right. Go figure. 

I think Ukraine war supporters want the war to go on until Ukraine gets their territory back.

 

Just the victim blaming on both sides is interesting to me. 

[Xerxes]