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[Red Lion]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

I think that's too easy an explanation.  There are a lot of people who didn't buy into the cult but voted for Trump...why?  These are smart, intelligent, rational people...many who don't like him...why vote for him?

 

Underlying sentiment was that there were huge underlying problems that no one was fixing...not former Dems or Republicans.  The one guy who shook the boat served one term in 2016 and the problems didn't get better when the Dems took hold again. 

 

And then the dysfunction in that administration, the President's idiot son's escapades, his waning mental and physical state and then with three months left, they change who was running...went from old man winter to the young black empowered VP who had no track record in policy...so they voted again for the known, but least desirable choice.  At least he would shake the boat again!

 

Unless the Dem's field a really great candidate...Trump's idiot son or Rubio will probably get the job next time.  I don't think even Republicans like JD Vance...so they are going to have to field someone else as well!  Cheers!

 

Exactly. I think this sums up basically 15-20%+ of all American voters. Lots of people voted for trump that don't have favorable opinion of him. 

 

What's funny/scary/interesting is that they voted for the "known". But I feel like Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 are two entirely different stories. Trump 2.0 very much does not feel like a "known" quantity right now. I feel like all sorts of modern day norms are being shattered and replaced left and right, and huge change pushing through the federal government in many different ways. I bet a lot of the swing voters didn't think Trump was going to come off as the biggest bull in the biggest china shop of all time. I know I didn't. The jury (or the Supreme Court?) is still out on how all this plays out, and some of it has the potential to go either way. Immigration, foreign policy, trade, taxation, the federal reserve, the DOJ, etc. are all going through historic change with basically no input by congress which can't tie its own shoelaces. 

Edited October 9, 2025 by Red Lion

[cubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

 

Exactly. I think this sums up basically 15-20%+ of all American voters. Lots of people voted for trump that don't have favorable opinion of him. 

 

What's funny/scary/interesting is that they voted for the "known". But I feel like Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 are two entirely different stories. Trump 2.0 very much does not feel like a "known" quantity right now. I feel like all sorts of modern day norms are being shattered and replaced left and right, and huge change pushing through the federal government in many different ways. I bet a lot of the swing voters didn't think Trump was going to come off as the biggest bull in the biggest china shop of all time. I know I didn't. The jury (or the Supreme Court?) is still out on how all this plays out, and some of it has the potential to go either way. Immigration, foreign policy, trade, taxation, the federal reserve, the DOJ, etc. are all going through historic change with basically no input by congress which can't tie its own shoelaces. 

 

No doubt. You have a historic President with an enormous amount of courage reversing a radical Marxist agenda put in place by the last administration. With lots of innovative twists in foreign policy, national security, economic policy and trade. Trump is breaking new ground every day at lightning speed. But a restoration of traditional American values and common sense are leading the charge. With no more DEI, transgender nonsense or identity politics being tolerated for the sake of our children.  It's fight for the soul of the country.

[73 Reds]

32 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

 

Exactly. I think this sums up basically 15-20%+ of all American voters. Lots of people voted for trump that don't have favorable opinion of him. 

 

What's funny/scary/interesting is that they voted for the "known". But I feel like Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0 are two entirely different stories. Trump 2.0 very much does not feel like a "known" quantity right now. I feel like all sorts of modern day norms are being shattered and replaced left and right, and huge change pushing through the federal government in many different ways. I bet a lot of the swing voters didn't think Trump was going to come off as the biggest bull in the biggest china shop of all time. I know I didn't. The jury (or the Supreme Court?) is still out on how all this plays out, and some of it has the potential to go either way. Immigration, foreign policy, trade, taxation, the federal reserve, the DOJ, etc. are all going through historic change with basically no input by congress which can't tie its own shoelaces. 

I think it is more that a lot of voters didn't think Trump would be able to accomplish so many of his campaign promises with such little push-back.  I don't understand anyone who categorizes Trump voters as "XXX".  Everyone who voted for him (i.e., the majority of voters) had their own personal reasons.  Those who brandish silly names on Trump supporters truly don't get it.  

[LC]

Oh I'm sure this guy had some deeply unique, personal reasons to vote for Trump:

 

[cubsfan]

8 minutes ago, LC said:

Oh I'm sure this guy had some deeply unique, personal reasons to vote for Trump:

 

 

They really ought to stop trying to kill ICE agents. That might help.

[changegonnacome]

America First - $20bn bailout of Argentina, Treausry buying pesos

[whiskybravo]

33 minutes ago, LC said:

Oh I'm sure this guy had some deeply unique, personal reasons to vote for Trump:

 

Better to look at the whole scene to see what these officers are subjected to while enforcing the law.  Objectively, I see a lot of restraint.  
 

The opposition is trained in psyops like tactics forcing decision dilemma.  Don’t react, accuse of being weak.  Measured response, ignored.  Overreact, create viral narrative of tyrannical/authoritarian.

 

[dwy000]

14 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Better to look at the whole scene to see what these officers are subjected to while enforcing the law.  Objectively, I see a lot of restraint.  
 

The opposition is trained in psyops like tactics forcing decision dilemma.  Don’t react, accuse of being weak.  Measured response, ignored.  Overreact, create viral narrative of tyrannical/authoritarian.

 

Local Portland news station now has a 24 hr live feed outside the ICE building.  I think one guy didnt even come to a full stop at the stop sign.  Its a war zone. 

 

https://katu.com/news/local/24-hours-outside-ice-what-really-going-on-portland-oregon-trump-administration-local-republicans-immigration-protest-antifa-fascism-national-guard-kotek-police-crime-media-noem-kristi-dhs

[LC]

42 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Better to look at the whole scene to see what these officers are subjected to while enforcing the law.  Objectively, I see a lot of restraint.  
 

The opposition is trained in psyops like tactics forcing decision dilemma.  Don’t react, accuse of being weak.  Measured response, ignored.  Overreact, create viral narrative of tyrannical/authoritarian.

 

The issue is constitutional rights. Trump's policies and ICE's execution is unconstitutional, whether the Supreme Court has the balls to call Trumpy on it eventually becomes irrelevant. People don't like their constitutional rights being violated- so they will fight back against it.

 

The bill of rights is just as much about protecting individual rights as it is a means to ensure a safe and functioning society. Societies where these rights are routinely violated eventually devolve into what the video you posted illustrates.

[cubsfan]

48 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Better to look at the whole scene to see what these officers are subjected to while enforcing the law.  Objectively, I see a lot of restraint.  
 

The opposition is trained in psyops like tactics forcing decision dilemma.  Don’t react, accuse of being weak.  Measured response, ignored.  Overreact, create viral narrative of tyrannical/authoritarian.

 

 

I have not seen this. That's horrifying. 3 straight weeks of rioting now.

[cubsfan]

8 minutes ago, LC said:

 

The issue is constitutional rights. Trump's policies and ICE's execution is unconstitutional, whether the Supreme Court has the balls to call Trumpy on it eventually becomes irrelevant. People don't like their constitutional rights being violated- so they will fight back against it.

 

The bill of rights is just as much about protecting individual rights as it is a means to ensure a safe and functioning society. Societies where these rights are routinely violated eventually devolve into what the video you posted illustrates.

 

That's silly. Protestors have the right to protest and assemble. They do not have the right to violently riot. They do not have the right to threaten to kill law enforcement officers. They do not have the right to take over the streets whenever they feel like it.  In no way is this a peaceful assembly.

 

And Illegal immigrants do not have the right to be here.

[LC]

And ICE doesn't have the right to break the 4th amendment but here we are.

 

In fact you're kind of making my point - when one of the bill of rights goes out the window, then all of them start falling like dominoes. 

Edited October 9, 2025 by LC

[Buckeye]

4 hours ago, Gregmal said:

^^^ isn’t this just classic, stupid socialist thinking? The “dur let’s can something blatantly good because some rich people might benefit”? It’s pretty much the same reason NYC lost that huge Amazon HQ deal. 
 

Hate to break it to you, but the haves pretty much always benefit. Otherwise, yea, totally agree Lutnick’s firm (a financial services firm FYI) making investments in a secular theme is totally the same thing as a no experience drug addict getting a director seat on a foreign energy board…

Hahaha. So being pro fair-business is now “stupid socialist thinking.” We all see what this is and don’t need your version. Thanks! 

[cubsfan]

6 minutes ago, LC said:

And ICE doesn't have the right to break the 4th amendment but here we are.

 

In fact you're kind of making my point - when one of the bill of rights goes out the window, then all of them start falling like dominoes. 

 

And of course that is complete nonsense. ICE is executing orders of removal and if the criminals are hiding with other illegals, then those illegals are in big trouble with ICE when discovered.

 

The idiotic sanctuary cities refuse to honor ICE detainers for criminals, so ICE has the dangerous job of hunting them down. Sanctuary cities just release them back into the communities to commit more crime.

[LC]

Just following orders - got it! 

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, LC said:

Just following orders - got it! 

 

Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble @LC  - ICE doesn't even always need a warrant to arrest illegal immigrants, only probable cause.  

 

No matter, as this first sweep of 1.5M illegals has been those with standing orders of removal or convicted criminals. But if you're an illegal dumb enough to be around those with standing removal orders - you're screwed.

 

 

Immigration Arrests: 

 

For warrantless arrests in the interior of the U.S., immigration officials must have probable cause that an alien has violated immigration laws and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained

 

 

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10362#:~:text=There are constitutional limitations on,ICE warrant can be obtained.

 

 

[LC]

"Rather than stand idly by while our constitutional freedoms are lost, I dissent"

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, LC said:

"Rather than stand idly by while our constitutional freedoms are lost, I dissent"

 

Too bad congress passed those laws long ago:

 

The Supreme Court has explained that warrantless searches and seizures occurring in areas deemed accessible to the public are not unreasonable because an individual has a diminished privacy expectation in these circumstances.

 

Oh well, that's the law - good to be a democracy isn't it??

[Gregmal]

55 minutes ago, Buckeye said:

Hahaha. So being pro fair-business is now “stupid socialist thinking.” We all see what this is and don’t need your version. Thanks! 

Ha! You clearly and embarrassingly  don’t….Who needs it when you fall for everything? We regularly hear how “NYT is the best we have” and the subsequent chirping of “no WSJ is the best!”…and here we have two pieces of shit with an agenda that thought they had some gotcha cuz “a SPAC went to CF for an IPO” LMFAO….I guess the editor didn’t bother checking basic stuff like yearly deal volume by institution or other basic, widely available info….ya know basic journalism stuff! Just what the doctor ordered tho! Click, click, click…

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

They really ought to stop trying to kill ICE agents. That might help.

It blows my mind how disingenuous some people are.

 

ICE are dressed like that because they have to be.

 

People are doxing them, posting locations of ICE raids, stoning their vehicles and even shooting at them.

 

So why the fuck is anyone surprised they cover up.

[Gregmal]

1 minute ago, Sweet said:

It blows my mind how disingenuous some people are.

 

ICE are dressed like that because they have to be.

 

People are doxing them, posting locations of ICE raids, stoning their vehicles and even shooting at them.

 

So why the fuck is anyone surprised they cover up.

I honestly just thought they were scared of the coronavirus and following the science?

[Gregmal]

Anyone remember when these stupid Libs shot down Amazons Long Island City HQ because “we re not giving Jeff Bezos a $3b handout?”…only to later fall silent after it was explained to them what a tax break was and that Bezos wasn’t actually getting anything? Good times!

[cubsfan]

11 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Anyone remember when these stupid Libs shot down Amazons Long Island City HQ because “we re not giving Jeff Bezos a $3b handout?”…only to later fall silent after it was explained to them what a tax break was and that Bezos wasn’t actually getting anything? Good times!

 

Yeah, and that dip-shit AOC that killed the Amazon deal is one of the leading candidates to replace Schumer or run for President. I hope they nominate her.

[changegonnacome]

 

Its hard to believe this is where we are at - but we are...Potus 47 hawking shitty watches on cable tv news while in OFFICE

[cubsfan]

6 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Its hard to believe this is where we are at - but we are...Potus 47 hawking shitty watches on cable tv news while in OFFICE

 

 

He's trying to entertainment himself between settling overseas wars.

 

Have no fear, he's not tired of winning yet....more than I can say for Letitia!