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[Sweet]

3 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

Washington signed a document acknowledging Iran's administrative authority over the Strait for at least the 60 day period of the MOU

The MOU said no such thing.

[Red Lion]

13 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

One thing I would like to hear my fellow American CofB&F members about is if this is being considered political suicide or not, related to the mid terms, for POTUS to continue down this path.

 

Political attempted suicide at this point. I think the Democratic Socialist movement might manage to seize defeat from the jaws of victory (for the Democrats at midterm elections that is). I think the jury's still out, and if the Democrats ran some moderates, they'd sweep the election. On the other hand, if Democrats ran moderates, I don't think Trump would have gotten elected anyway. 

 

I think the American electorate overall dislikes progressives, and then all of the sudden, the democratic socialists make the progressives look like the "middle". 

 

Unfortunately for our two party system, the Democratic Party seems to be pushing further and further towards the extreme left, and the GOP has managed to eliminate most MAGA dissenters as well. Probably why we have 45% of voters  as independents now, unfortunately they are held hostage to the primary elections of the other 55% of voters.  

[DooDiligence]

Does anybody remember who played the part of the CDC director in Idiocracy?.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

[Sweet]

15 minutes ago, DooDiligence said:

Does anybody remember who played the part of the CDC director in Idiocracy?.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/about/autism.html

That webpage reads like something a 4Channer would write trying to sound smart.

[Parsad]

19 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

New tariffs :

 

Reuters - World [July 24^th 2026] : Trump imposes forced labor duties on 60 trading partners as 10% US tariffs expire

 

Bullet points - Summary :

• White House imposes tariffs of 10% and 12.5% on 60 trading partners,
• Trump administration cites unfair trade practices statute to impose levies,
• New duties cover 99.4% of all U.S. imports, but many goods are exempt,
• Trade partners say new tariffs unjustified.

From the article :

 

 

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From Google AI :

 

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So :

 

EU countries [whining and complaining] : 'You can't just do that - it's the same tariffs that just ran off, but just with yet another, different explation that is invalid! -Because we actually do have active forced labor import bans in place, up and running!'

 

POTUS : 'It doesen't matter... - I just do it anyway!'

 

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What to say?   ... - Thank God - at least it's Friday!

 

Charlies [ @dealrakers ] comments about POTUS keeping control over the narrative, and @changegonnacome calling POTUS 'Captain Chaos' just comes to mind! 

 

Genius at work here!  He's an expert in acting like a thug...some of his best friends are thugs...would we expect anything else?  Cheers!

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, Gregmal said:

The issue is that Trump had a path to do something, to take a shot...and he did. 6 months ago...That was it. Instead his ego couldn't let him walk away as long as the pundits kept gaslighting everyone about "Iran winning"...and then the Israelis duped him into continuing their forever war. 

 

Yup...there were a lot of wins for the taking this time.  But like a gambler, he doesn't know when to stop and walk away with his winnings. 

 

• He won handily on the southern border, but then went to far with ICE. 
• He was winning with DOGE, but again just started hacking with a machete. 
• He was winning Iran, but then let Israel continue bombing Lebanon. 
• He was making headway with the tariffs, but then kept piling them on and on. 
• He was going to make meaningful changes to Obamacare, but then essentially blew it apart.

The man is his own worst enemy!  He's the guy who is 30 points ahead of the other team and then blows the whole fucking lead and just blames someone else or the media!

 

Cheers!

[John Hjorth]

6 hours ago, Parsad said:

Yup...there were a lot of wins for the taking this time.  But like a gambler, he doesn't know when to stop and walk away with his winnings. 

 

• He won handily on the southern border, but then went to far with ICE. 
• He was winning with DOGE, but again just started hacking with a machete. 
• He was winning Iran, but then let Israel continue bombing Lebanon. 
• He was making headway with the tariffs, but then kept piling them on and on. 
• He was going to make meaningful changes to Obamacare, but then essentially blew it apart.

The man is his own worst enemy!  He's the guy who is 30 points ahead of the other team and then blows the whole fucking lead and just blames someone else or the media!

 

Cheers!

 

I think we should expect swift EU retaliation on these new tariffs.

 

Here is an example : 

 

Børsen - News - Businesses [July 24^th 2026] : Danish company on Trump tariffs: "Is absurd"

 

From the article, here translated to English :

 

Quote

The development angers Lars Ryholl, CEO of the industrial company Cabinplant. Since the US market is important to the company, the company has had to deal with tariffs and the uncertainty surrounding them several times.

 

“The new tariffs are just a continuation of what we know now, with new arguments,” Lars Ryholl said in a written response.

 

The reason for the new tariffs is that the trading partners in question have not introduced and enforced what is described as a ban on imports of goods produced through forced labor, according to a press release from the administration.

 

“
The new tariff is just a continuation of what we know now, with new arguments,
Lars Ryholl, CEO, Cabinplant

 

“That Denmark should then have a tariff for insufficient enforcement of forced labor is absurd and just an emphasis on the unpredictable world we live in. Our sales will continue to increase in the USA, primarily because they are not able to produce competitive alternatives themselves,” writes Lars Ryholl.

 

Cabinplant produces and supplies processing machines as total solutions for the food industry and has a turnover of more than 400 million DKK per year. The company is owned by the industrial company CTB, which in turn is owned by Warren Buffet’s holding company Berkshire Hathaway.

 

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Berkshire acquired CTB in 2002, and the European arm of CTB acquired 80% [<- I think] of Cabinplant A/S in 2016 from the two founders, who still owns the rest in a shared private holding company. Cabinplant is a good business, turnover just below DKK 500 million, 300 employeés. Cabinplant is about 10% of CTB today.

 

Cabinplant is located in a small town called Haarby near the coastal city Assens on Funen, about 2,500 habitants there, 45 km south-west from here.

 

If one asks a snobby and arrogant Copenhagener's nose, who has never been west to Valby Hill about Cabinplant in Haarby he doesn't know of either!

 

https://www.cabinplant.com/

Edited 5 hours ago by John Hjorth

[dealraker]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

 

I think we should expect swift EU retaliation on these new tariffs.

 

Here is an example : 

 

Børsen - News - Businesses [July 24^th 2026] : Danish company on Trump tariffs: "Is absurd"

 

From the article, here translated to English :

 

 

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Berkshire acquired CTB in 2002, and the European arm of CTB acquired 80% [<- I think] of Cabinplant A/S in 2016 from the two founders, who still owns the rest in a shared private holding company. Cabinplant is a good business, turnover just below DKK 500 million, 300 employeés. Cabinplant is about 10% of CTB today.

 

Cabinplant is located in a small town called Haarby near the coastal city Assens on Funen, about 2,500 habitants there, 45 km south-west from here.

 

If one asks a snobby and arrogant Copenhagener's nose, who has never been west to Valby Hill about Cabinplant in Haarby he doesn't know of either!

 

https://www.cabinplant.com/

As you guys profile the typical Trump Trump's all I can say is that when he is in charge all things turn out the same way, a huge mess.  And he always takes a nice paycheck while the chaos continues.

 

Mr. Market is Trump's salvation, a huge portion of US people are watching this comedy show while monitoring their 401K's moment by moment.  Nothing is going to change, count on it, until Mr. Market decides he's tired of going up and wanting to do something else.

 

Enjoy the show.  While doing so you may also want to conceptualize something that you all intuitively know for certain, that even those with rings in their noses being led by Trump know.  What is it?  You all know that Trump does not want anyone but himself to succeed, he is not "for the US" he is for Trump and only Trump.  He does not plan to leave the US in good  condition when his time is up, he's going to tell you that this fucking place is doomed to failure because he's not going to be available to "lead" you.

 

Trump despises others including his believers, that's him to the bone.  It may be fun to think "Well the libs are getting their asses beat" and whatnot but it is coming at a huge cost to all things the conservatives deem their core beliefs.  Once you are on the Trump bandwagon it is nearly impossible to get off, the addiction to rage and revenge is too exciting.

 

Watch finances people.  I've been telling you for years that Trump is Trump, that money is free and debt is to be ignored and defaulted upon...that is simply Trump's core belief- that you fuck the creditors.

 

And please stop with the "well you know I support this clown because his policies..."   Really?

 

Sanjeev's list above?  Gunna get to a list of thousands.  Trump can take a rubber hammer to a steel anvil and make a believer out of you.  He always does the same thing to every single thing he touches.  

 

My guess is Trump is starting to feel like he either won't live too much longer or that his power is waning a bit.  Now this is going to motivate him to do some really cool stuff.  Look for heightened entertainment of the extreme style!

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by dealraker

[John Hjorth]

56 minutes ago, dealraker said:

As you guys profile the typical Trump Trump's all I can say is that when he is in charge all things turn out the same way, a huge mess.  And he always takes a nice paycheck while the chaos continues.

 

Mr. Market is Trump's salvation, a huge portion of US people are watching this comedy show while monitoring their 401K's moment by moment.  Nothing is going to change, count on it, until Mr. Market decides he's tired of going up and wanting to do something else.

 

Enjoy the show.  While doing so you may also want to conceptualize something that you all intuitively know for certain, that even those with rings in their noses being led by Trump know.  What is it?  You all know that Trump does not want anyone but himself to succeed, he is not "for the US" he is for Trump and only Trump.  He does not plan to leave the US in good  condition when his time is up, he's going to tell you that this fucking place is doomed to failure because he's not going to be available to "lead" you.

 

Trump despises others including his believers, that's him to the bone.  It may be fun to think "Well the libs are getting their asses beat" and whatnot but it is coming at a huge cost to all things the conservatives deem their core beliefs.  Once you are on the Trump bandwagon it is nearly impossible to get off, the addiction to rage and revenge is too exciting.

 

Watch finances people.  I've been telling you for years that Trump is Trump, that money is free and debt is to be ignored and defaulted upon...that is simply Trump's core belief- that you fuck the creditors.

 

And please stop with the "well you know I support this clown because his policies..."   Really?

 

Sanjeev's list above?  Gunna get to a list of thousands.  Trump can take a rubber hammer to a steel anvil and make a believer out of you.  He always does the same thing to every single thing he touches.  

 

My guess is Trump is starting to feel like he either won't live too much longer or that his power is waning a bit.  Now this is going to motivate him to do some really cool stuff.  Look for heightened entertainment of the extreme style!

 

Charlie [ @dealraker ],

 

Your post above  made me go down the memory lane, where I here on CofB&F found the following topic started by me :

 

CofB&F [December 6^th 2016] : Trump wants to cancel Air Force One order from Boeing

 

I thought I would share it here, -I think I've read somewhere that a good laugh is good for our health.

[73 Reds]

1 hour ago, dealraker said:

As you guys profile the typical Trump Trump's all I can say is that when he is in charge all things turn out the same way, a huge mess.  And he always takes a nice paycheck while the chaos continues.

 

Mr. Market is Trump's salvation, a huge portion of US people are watching this comedy show while monitoring their 401K's moment by moment.  Nothing is going to change, count on it, until Mr. Market decides he's tired of going up and wanting to do something else.

 

Enjoy the show.  While doing so you may also want to conceptualize something that you all intuitively know for certain, that even those with rings in their noses being led by Trump know.  What is it?  You all know that Trump does not want anyone but himself to succeed, he is not "for the US" he is for Trump and only Trump.  He does not plan to leave the US in good  condition when his time is up, he's going to tell you that this fucking place is doomed to failure because he's not going to be available to "lead" you.

 

Trump despises others including his believers, that's him to the bone.  It may be fun to think "Well the libs are getting their asses beat" and whatnot but it is coming at a huge cost to all things the conservatives deem their core beliefs.  Once you are on the Trump bandwagon it is nearly impossible to get off, the addiction to rage and revenge is too exciting.

 

Watch finances people.  I've been telling you for years that Trump is Trump, that money is free and debt is to be ignored and defaulted upon...that is simply Trump's core belief- that you fuck the creditors.

 

And please stop with the "well you know I support this clown because his policies..."   Really?

 

Sanjeev's list above?  Gunna get to a list of thousands.  Trump can take a rubber hammer to a steel anvil and make a believer out of you.  He always does the same thing to every single thing he touches.  

 

My guess is Trump is starting to feel like he either won't live too much longer or that his power is waning a bit.  Now this is going to motivate him to do some really cool stuff.  Look for heightened entertainment of the extreme style!

 

 

Yeah, really.  Got any better ideas?  

[John Hjorth]

49 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Yeah, really.  Got any better ideas?  

 

@73 Reds, 

 

I'm not asked here, but I take the freedom to contribute to an answer here anyway. 

 

Nurse and evolve relations and intercourse with friends and allies based on respect and mutual understanding in stead of this now longstanding, almost never ending, sh*t show constantly going on by now, with harassments, insults, name calling, theats and what do I know, all the time.

 

It's not a matter of 'the person'. It's matter of incumbent POTUS not knowing the difference between one of his socalled 'wins' - and successes. 

 

Long term, POTUS' actual approach is just such a no-go.

[73 Reds]

Just now, John Hjorth said:

 

@73 Reds, 

 

I'm not asked here, but I take the freedom to contribute to an answer here anyway. 

 

Nurse and evolve relations and intercourse with friends and allies based on respect and mutual understanding in stead of this now longstanding, almost never ending, sh*t show constantly going on by now, with harassments, insults, name calling, theats and what do I know, all the time.

 

It's not a matter of 'the person'. It's matter of incumbent POTUS not knowing the difference between one of his socalled 'wins' - and successes. 

 

Long term, POTUS' actual approach is just such a no-go.

John, does daily ranting and whining help?  If so, this forum provides a captive audience.  If you want to discuss specifics, what "approach" are you referring to?  Each issue and policy presents its own approach.  I'm happy to discuss them, but when folks cannot, or refuse to differentiate between a person and a policy, what is there to discuss?

[dealraker]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Yeah, really.  Got any better ideas?  

No, there are absolutely no better alternatives currently available Reds.  And along those lines my biggest fear of all, by far the one that dominates my thinking, is that our obsession with Donnie greatly enhances the probability that a somewhat equal, and we know there are no equals to Trump's simplistic sell, man or from the left will work our country for his god-awful agenda.  The words applicable are "to the degree we go...is the degree we go..."

 

 

[John Hjorth]

7 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

John, does daily ranting and whining help?  If so, this forum provides a captive audience.  If you want to discuss specifics, what "approach" are you referring to?  Each issue and policy presents its own approach.  I'm happy to discuss them, but when folks cannot, or refuse to differentiate between a person and a policy, what is there to discuss?

 

@73 Reds,

 

You asked, and I was not really asked, but I felt entitled to contribute - at least partly - to an answer here [likely bad form].

 

I have here in this topic spent a lot of time documenting for you and others the real facts about POTUS' 'Greenland thingy' and how it's percieved here in Denmark - an ally to USA, that has followed USA into the war against terror, with our own war casualties. 

 

And yet, all the US lies, propaganda and distorsions about the actual Greenland situation continues.

 

There is relatively calme about the 'Greenland thingy' by now, - that's because POTUS is occupied what he's entagled in with Iran, taking his attention, - by now.

 

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That may suffice here.

 

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@73 Reds,

 

Btw.: Out of pure curiosity : Have you any part of total capital invested outside USA? From reading your posts I think that hav understood UK has special place in your heart?

[Spekulatius]

16 hours ago, Red Lion said:

 

Political attempted suicide at this point. I think the Democratic Socialist movement might manage to seize defeat from the jaws of victory (for the Democrats at midterm elections that is). I think the jury's still out, and if the Democrats ran some moderates, they'd sweep the election. On the other hand, if Democrats ran moderates, I don't think Trump would have gotten elected anyway. 

 

I think the American electorate overall dislikes progressives, and then all of the sudden, the democratic socialists make the progressives look like the "middle". 

 

Unfortunately for our two party system, the Democratic Party seems to be pushing further and further towards the extreme left, and the GOP has managed to eliminate most MAGA dissenters as well. Probably why we have 45% of voters  as independents now, unfortunately they are held hostage to the primary elections of the other 55% of voters.  

The left wing will not hurt the midterms much because that’s about stonewalling Trump’s agenda. I think the Democrats have a good shot at winning those even in the current disjointed  condition.

 

The issue comes with the next election. Both Parties will have problems. Trump will be gone but at that point will be radioactive enough that it reflects on everyone he has worked with especially Vance . You will see Vance disconnecting himself from Trump for that reason before the elections.

 

The Dems have no leading persona who can win elections. The populist left leaning ones like AOC play a good game for themselves but likely can’t win an election because they can’t win over enough of the middle class. So we are likely left with 2 crummy candidates and my hunch is that the Republicans will have the edge here.

 

All this is just a guess.

Edited 1 hour ago by Spekulatius

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, dealraker said:

No, there are absolutely no better alternatives currently available Reds.  And along those lines my biggest fear of all, by far the one that dominates my thinking, is that our obsession with Donnie greatly enhances the probability that a somewhat equal, and we know there are no equals to Trump's simplistic sell, man or from the left will work our country for his god-awful agenda.  The words applicable are "to the degree we go...is the degree we go..."

 

 

Well, while you are obsessing, consider what we were left with on Election day.  That was exactly one Presidential term following Trump 1, when many of you forcefully believed he would end the World as we know it.  What seem to be lacking here IMO is perspective.  

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

@73 Reds,

 

You asked, and I was not really asked, but I felt entitled to contribute - at least partly - to an answer here [likely bad form].

 

I have here in this topic spent a lot of time documenting for you and others the real facts about POTUS' 'Greenland thingy' and how it's percieved here in Denmark - an ally to USA, that has followed USA into the war against terror, with our own war casualties. 

 

And yet, all the US lies, propaganda and distorsions about the actual Greenland situation continues.

 

There is relatively calme about the 'Greenland thingy' by now, - that's because POTUS is occupied what he's entagled in with Iran, taking his attention, - by now.

 

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That may suffice here.

 

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@73 Reds,

 

Btw.: Out of pure curiosity : Have you any part of total capital invested outside USA? From reading your posts I think that hav understood UK has special place in your heart?

The answer to your question is yes, but most of my assets and investments are in the US.  My point here is that on many fronts, longstanding US efforts at diplomacy have failed the US.  I voted for the "Bull in a China Shop" approach to issues like Iran, NATO, trade, the UN, and even domestic issues like DEI and wokeness.  I also completely understand your feelings on Greenland.  

[Spekulatius]

Trump biggest discovery is that he can just make shyte up and it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. In most cases he will not get called out on it and even if he does, it doesn’t matter because he just makes more shyte up. He basically discovered  Brandolini law and how to use it in politics. It not totally new but he applies it at a scale that no one has ever seen before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law

 

Example:

 

[73 Reds]

Just now, Spekulatius said:

Trump biggest discovery is that he can just make shyte up and it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. In most cases he will not get called out on it and even if he does, it doesn’t matter because he just makes more shyte up. He basically discovered  Brandolini law and how to use it in politics. It not totally new but he applies it at a scale that no one has ever seen before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law

 

Example:

 

The only difference between Trump and any other elected official on the "lying "front is Trump talks a lot more than any of them.

[dealraker]

36 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Well, while you are obsessing, consider what we were left with on Election day.  That was exactly one Presidential term following Trump 1, when many of you forcefully believed he would end the World as we know it.  What seem to be lacking here IMO is perspective.  

LOL, no Reds we did not believe Trump would end the world as we know it.  We believed Trump would do exactly, that's precisely, what he has actually done.  Nothing more, nothing less.  To act as if that's OK?  That's nothing but pure low level perfectly obvious intellectual dishonesty.

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, dealraker said:

LOL, no Reds we did not believe Trump would end the world as we know it.  We believed Trump would do exactly, that's precisely, what he has actually done.  Nothing more, nothing less.  To act as if that's OK?  That's nothing but pure low level perfectly obvious intellectual dishonesty.

Hmmm.... a bunch of words that say...... nothing at all.  But yeah, many of you believed - and still do - that Trump will end the World as we know it.  The only plausible explanation for your obsession.

[dealraker]

5 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Hmmm.... a bunch of words that say...... nothing at all.  But yeah, many of you believed - and still do - that Trump will end the World as we know it.  The only plausible explanation for your obsession.

Reds you are a blisteringly clear version of the 1/3rd rule:  One third of the country would kill another one third while the remaining 1/3rd watches.  Watch and stay aloof dude...

 

...hell, Mr. Market is going up and its likely your Microsoft may start going back up too!