John Hjorth Posted yesterday at 09:33 AM Posted yesterday at 09:33 AM 2 hours ago, Parsad said: Just like his other construction projects: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/the-paint-is-already-peeling-in-trumps-renovated-washington-reflecting-pool-205842336.html The Iranian Regime should make sure Trump and his company aren't the contractor for the Iranian $300B reparation rebuild! Cheers! HaHa! I read an article in a Danish news media about it a few days ago, It was almost impossible to get that it wasen't a joke, but real! -And now POTUS needs a bunch of pool guys to work on it every day [+1 one to push Melanias bar wagon! ], and a bunch duck potty trainers, duck sitting the ducks and the ducklings,so they don't poo in the water, because it causes green algee bloom!
73 Reds Posted yesterday at 12:16 PM Posted yesterday at 12:16 PM 8 hours ago, changegonnacome said: We're dealing with people that I think are very rational people, and they were nice to deal with," Mr. Trump said of Iran's current leadership during an event at the G7 summit in France on Tuesday "They were strong people, smart people. … They're not radicalized and they're looking to help their country." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-goals-iran-war-and-what-hes-saying-now-nuclear-missiles-regime-change/ @cubsfan @73 Reds So Donald says the above...what ya think?....for 40+ years the conventional wisdom on Iran has been that they are ideological nut jobs, irrational and a suicidal death cult who dont care about their own people. Now they are rational, nice, not radicalized and just want to help the people in their country! You guys wanted Trump to shake things up.....he most certainly has re: Iran/US/Israel relations if this is the new party line! Who knows precisely what "people" he is talking about. Clearly there are different elements of fanatics in control of Iran. That is one of the main issues with any negotiations. Who is in charge today and who will be in charge tomorrow? You still gotta try but with realistic expectations. Anything better than a nuclear-armed Iran should be deemed a success. Anything better than that is gravy.
dealraker Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 6/18/2026 at 8:42 AM, cubsfan said: You got it right @John Hjorth According to our buddies on CoBF, the $300B will be handed over by all of Iran's mortal enemies, just so Iran can rebuild their nukes and military - then Iran can start attacking their neighbors again. The brain trust on CoBF strikes again. For simple clarification:
ourkid8 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Wow - these guys and truly disgusting genocidal animals. This post was from the minister of security. Edited 21 hours ago by ourkid8
73 Reds Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, dealraker said: For simple clarification: Even simpler clarification: One was a deal, one is an MOU.
Parsad Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, dealraker said: For simple clarification: Dealraker, I think you missed the Art of the Deal here...Trump is luring Iran into negotiations with honey...everyone knows Iranian's love honey, especially in their baklava-like desserts! You beat them over the head with missiles, then give them everything they want plus some honey (especially Mamuka), and then WHAMO...you get them to sign over all of their nuclear material! Works every time. Cheers!
LC Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 11 hours ago, dealraker said: For simple clarification: Sure, when you line up their accomplishments side-by-side of course it's going to look like Obama is 100x the POTUS that Stumpy is...but what you don't realize is that Obama was black and that makes people uNcOmFoRtAbLe!
changegonnacome Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 13 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Who knows precisely what "people" he is talking about. Sorry I think your cognitive dissonance is leading you to rationalize what he said as if he meant someone else other than the Iranian regime currently running Iran that negotiated and signed the MOU. I get it, it must be jarring to vote for a guy thinking he'd be aligned with your views on Iran and to now find him inverting the standard talking points so violently. Trump, as many have said about him personally, will eventually always screw you over somehow. The GOP/DNC party line forever (essentially the Israeli self -serving caricature) is that Iran is an irrational, suicidal death cult.........Trump in one fell swoop re-characterizes them as rational, pleasant to deal with and only looking out for their people....he's also recently said that you know maybe they can keep their civilian nuclear enrichment as others have one and as regards ballistic missiles....more or less "why wouldn't they want to keep what others in the region have!" He's something else. I'm sure Miriam Adelson is wondering if $250m in political donations are refundable right now as she listens to this administration flip the Israeli talking points on Iran. I've always seen through the Iran caricature as just that (but at the same time recognizing the repression there) but I'm as shocked as anyone to hear a US President invert that caricature so publicly and forcefully! Crazy times.....Trump's great legacy was the switch in posture he instituted re: China.....a China engagement strategy was dogma in D.C. when he arrived, when he left in 2021 that had switched to containment......I wonder if this time around the dogma he'll dismantle before he leaves is D.C's unquestioning consumption of Israeli talking points as American foreign policy and move towards looking at Israel as just another ally and M.E. as a region that is better left to self-stablize after decades of the US/Israel attempting to 'fix' it.
Marco Van Basten Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 20 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: Sorry I think your cognitive dissonance is leading you to rationalize what he said as if he meant someone else other than the Iranian regime currently running Iran that negotiated and signed the MOU. I get it, it must be jarring to vote for a guy thinking he'd be aligned with your views on Iran and to now find him inverting the standard talking points so violently. Trump, as many have said about him personally, will eventually always screw you over somehow. The GOP/DNC party line forever (essentially the Israeli self -serving caricature) is that Iran is an irrational, suicidal death cult.........Trump in one fell swoop re-characterizes them as rational, pleasant to deal with and only looking out for their people....he's also recently said that you know maybe they can keep their civilian nuclear enrichment as others have one and as regards ballistic missiles....more or less "why wouldn't they want to keep what others in the region have!" He's something else. I'm sure Miriam Adelson is wondering if $250m in political donations are refundable right now as she listens to this administration flip the Israeli talking points on Iran. I've always seen through the Iran caricature as just that (but at the same time recognizing the repression there) but I'm as shocked as anyone to hear a US President invert that caricature so publicly and forcefully! Crazy times.....Trump's great legacy was the switch in posture he instituted re: China.....a China engagement strategy was dogma in D.C. when he arrived, when he left in 2021 that had switched to containment......I wonder if this time around the dogma he'll dismantle before he leaves is D.C's unquestioning consumption of Israeli talking points as American foreign policy and move towards looking at Israel as just another ally and M.E. as a region that is better left to self-stablize after decades of the US/Israel attempting to 'fix' it. What you fail to realize is that the Iranian behavior over the past 47 years has never been rational. Iran was not at war with the US at the time of the revolution, instead Iran chose to take Americans hostage - an action that would have caused the Soviets to nuke them. Iran chose to fund Hezbollah which bombed Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Iran chose war against the US, it was not forced into it. Similarly with Israel, Iran was not a war with Israel in 1979, as a matter of fact, Israeli engineers built the Teheran water system. Iran chose to start a war against Israel via proxy. As a matter of fact, is it rational to fund Hamas and Hezbollah which are dedicated to the destruction of Israel? If one country is dedicated to wiping out the other, the logical conclusion is that it risk being wiped out itself! Is it rational to attack a country that is not at war with you, let alone a country that is armed with nukes? Iran chose to attack two countries - US and Israel. If you think that is rational, what is not rational in your opinion?
adesigar Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Marco Van Basten said: What you fail to realize is that the Iranian behavior over the past 47 years has never been rational. Iran was not at war with the US at the time of the revolution, instead Iran chose to take Americans hostage - an action that would have caused the Soviets to nuke them. Iran chose to fund Hezbollah which bombed Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Iran chose war against the US, it was not forced into it. Similarly with Israel, Iran was not a war with Israel in 1979, as a matter of fact, Israeli engineers built the Teheran water system. Iran chose to start a war against Israel via proxy. As a matter of fact, is it rational to fund Hamas and Hezbollah which are dedicated to the destruction of Israel? If one country is dedicated to wiping out the other, the logical conclusion is that it risk being wiped out itself! Is it rational to attack a country that is not at war with you, let alone a country that is armed with nukes? Iran chose to attack two countries - US and Israel. If you think that is rational, what is not rational in your opinion? Ah yes how conveniently you forget how the Shah got into power. It was the US and UK that orchestrated a coup that destroyed democracy in Iran to bring a dictator to power and so he could give 40% of Irans oil to western companies. The Shah was a US/UK puppet who was terrorizing Iranians. Also read up on the atrocities that followed the coup and understand the reason why the revolution took place.
Parsad Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago About what you would expect from a Trump friend and donor...literally looks like the profile pick for any Trump "organization"/mafia associate! No bid friend/donor who destroyed the reflecting pool! Cheers! https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/company-owned-by-trump-donor-won-17-million-no-bid-reflecting-pool-contract-000248757.html
John Hjorth Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) CNN - Politics [June 19th 2026] : Italian foreign minister cancels trip to US over Trump’s comments about Meloni - - - o 0 o - - - -And the temperamental Italian blonde - most of the time dressed in white - gets all worked up of the eigthy years old pro, experienced womanizers comments about her! - So much for that good personal relationship! International Politics anno 2026! - You can't make this up! - - - o 0 o - - - In politics, there are things you just don't engage in, especially towards women! Edited 1 hour ago by John Hjorth Added CNN link, fixed spelling
dealraker Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, LC said: Sure, when you line up their accomplishments side-by-side of course it's going to look like Obama is 100x the POTUS that Stumpy is...but what you don't realize is that Obama was black and that makes people uNcOmFoRtAbLe! And Trump does what Trump does, there's 55 plus years of it laid open for view. He creates total chaos, his tag along's elope into some bizarre claims of success while others gape at what is complete failure, failure, and more failure. Trump sneaks in his paychecks, one after another, always plain out in the open corruption. 2nd grade special needs kids can make that determination but the tag along's choose not to. Why? You got it! Trump looks the part. He's got the John Wayne thing. It takes 1 and 1/2 hours of makeup, hair preparation, and massive body enhancements within the black suit, but we get there. Different voices, unique childlike facial expressions, it all sells and sells to the tag along crowd. All these years for Trump and there's no legitimate business for his "wealth" only scam bezel fake shit. Yet it works, and works, and works, the more stretch his followers do to legitimize - the more committed they are to believe. Bookmark this if you are young because this is the craziest garbage you will ever see in your lifetime. The next person who tries this shit won't have success such as this. Trump owns the world...for now. My extended family of businessmen, some fabulously wealthy remind me that I'm not coming up with the main theme that allows all this to happen. They tell me it is fear, that no matter how much wealth or power anyone has today they all fall in line with this fruitcake goofball because of fear.
John Hjorth Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago Are any of my fellow CofB&F members considering ordering [by now : preordering, [until 23th June 2026]] this book : Regime Change - Maggie Haberman & Jonathan Swan ?
73 Reds Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 10 hours ago, changegonnacome said: Sorry I think your cognitive dissonance is leading you to rationalize what he said as if he meant someone else other than the Iranian regime currently running Iran that negotiated and signed the MOU. I get it, it must be jarring to vote for a guy thinking he'd be aligned with your views on Iran and to now find him inverting the standard talking points so violently. Trump, as many have said about him personally, will eventually always screw you over somehow. The GOP/DNC party line forever (essentially the Israeli self -serving caricature) is that Iran is an irrational, suicidal death cult.........Trump in one fell swoop re-characterizes them as rational, pleasant to deal with and only looking out for their people....he's also recently said that you know maybe they can keep their civilian nuclear enrichment as others have one and as regards ballistic missiles....more or less "why wouldn't they want to keep what others in the region have!" He's something else. I'm sure Miriam Adelson is wondering if $250m in political donations are refundable right now as she listens to this administration flip the Israeli talking points on Iran. I've always seen through the Iran caricature as just that (but at the same time recognizing the repression there) but I'm as shocked as anyone to hear a US President invert that caricature so publicly and forcefully! Crazy times.....Trump's great legacy was the switch in posture he instituted re: China.....a China engagement strategy was dogma in D.C. when he arrived, when he left in 2021 that had switched to containment......I wonder if this time around the dogma he'll dismantle before he leaves is D.C's unquestioning consumption of Israeli talking points as American foreign policy and move towards looking at Israel as just another ally and M.E. as a region that is better left to self-stablize after decades of the US/Israel attempting to 'fix' it. My cognitive dissonance, LOL? The thread that just keeps on giving.
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