Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 18 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: Come on, you are smarter than that. Iran had a religious ruling that they would not have any nuclear weapons. In Us/Israel infinite wisdom, they killed the one person preventing the country from acquiring them. Very intelligent! No - this war started Feb 28 as Iran exercised article 51 of the UN charter. You can maybe go back when Israel initially attacked on June 13th and cowardly cried for help. I love how you conveniently left out those 2 dates and focused on the propaganda from Israel. The one thing I've learned is that people of faith are no different than people of no faith. They all do good, bad and ugly things. They tell the truth and they will lie. They will love their family and abuse their family. They will covet their friend's things and they will defend them in death. Everyone is capable of good and bad behavior! Those two dates are after October 7th...which you keep ignoring or trying to deflect from. Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I said that. Chris Wray lied to Congress about the FBI even being there. Wray said he did not think any FBI or assets were there. Patel said 274 FBI's were there. He said he was told they were there for crowd control - which is not their job. Patel doesn't believe it. Get a clue already. Wray did not want to disclose FBI deployment. Patel confirmed that no FBI agents were present before the riot...contrary to what Trump said and different than what you are implying. FBI agents did not start the riot...it had already started. Of the hundreds of people convicted, most were participating in the riot or trespassing. Cheers!
cubsfan Posted May 27 Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, Parsad said: Wray did not want to disclose FBI deployment. Patel confirmed that no FBI agents were present before the riot...contrary to what Trump said and different than what you are implying. FBI agents did not start the riot...it had already started. Of the hundreds of people convicted, most were participating in the riot or trespassing. Cheers! You go right ahead and ignore the man's own words. If you want to believe Newsweek and their selective reporting, go right ahead.
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Parsad said: The one thing I've learned is that people of faith are no different than people of no faith. They all do good, bad and ugly things. They tell the truth and they will lie. They will love their family and abuse their family. They will covet their friend's things and they will defend them in death. Everyone is capable of good and bad behavior! Those two dates are after October 7th...which you keep ignoring or trying to deflect from. Cheers! That’s a fair point but let’s look at his track record. He became supreme ruler on June 4th 1989 until his death on Feb 28, 2026 which is 36 years and 8 months. In that time, he maintained the fatwa and kept his word. (Track records do matter) Iran has never launched a direct preemptive attacked against israel ever yet the other party cannot say the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter (I’ll stop here as I do not feel like going back and forth) Edited May 27 by ourkid8
Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, cubsfan said: You go right ahead and ignore the man's own words. If you want to believe Newsweek and their selective reporting, go right ahead. He said exactly what I said...they were there to do crowd/riot control. FBI is not trained for that but were sent. Now you can read that two ways...and Patel didn't clarify either...were they there to be in the crowd or were they there to do crowd control? They weren't there before the riot according to them and Patel from what he heard, so they were there for crowd control since the National Guard were declined or not signed for by Pelosi. They were not there for subversive acts. You can argue the officers may not have done a good job, but not whether officers were assaulted or any died. Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/26/middleeast/iranians-emerge-online-with-skepticism-defiance-after-months-of-blackout-intl-latam Cheers!
John Hjorth Posted May 27 Posted May 27 8 hours ago, whiskybravo said: Thank the board for indulging my concerns. Just a follow up. I placed an email with the USPS informing them of the situation. A couple of hours later I received a call from a woman thanking me for raising the matter. She told me that they are aware of the situation and are awaiting a contractor. She told me that she would email that contractor again. If anyone wants I will post a picture when old glory has been restored Please do it for me, thank you! , @whiskybravo, I'm not pecking on you personally here, but societal issues need to be adressed appropiriately before getting adressed for public discussion, which in many cases is not what is happening in a given society. Let me give an other example here from Northern Europe. About 15 years ago, Odense Municipality here i Denmark set up an e-mailaccount named 'Give us a tip', where citizens can report everything from lights out, invalsve plants, invasive insects, property damages, dumping of stuff [i.e. asbestos] in nature and other public areas, or what ever, to the Municipality. It's a resounding success to get things done and fixed.
Charlie Posted May 27 Posted May 27 The U.S. health minister is really doing a good job. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/26/us/video/rfkjr-snakes-grab-bare-hands-wrangling
Lazarus Posted May 27 Posted May 27 7 hours ago, John Hjorth said: About 15 years ago, Odense Municipality here i Denmark set up an e-mailaccount named 'Give us a tip', where citizens can report everything from lights out, invalsve plants, invasive insects, property damages, dumping of stuff [i.e. asbestos] in nature and other public areas, or what ever, to the Municipality. It's a resounding success to get things done and fixed. Man, I have mixed feelings on this. I like the things you mention, but would also fear Orwellian misuses - people reporting Facebook posts, etc.
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Iran and the United States Details of the current Peace Deal, per an Iranian MP: (It’s a beauty, as Trump calls it - It’s the art of the deal) 1. Declaration of the end of the war throughout the Middle East 2. Respect for each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity 3. Negotiation a Final deal within 60 days, the deadline of which may be extended by mutual agreement of the parties 4. Lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days and withdrawal of American troops from vicinity of Iran 5. Opening of the Strait of Hormuz by Iran within 30 days 6. A pledge of a $300 billion reconstruction program for Iran upon the signing of the Final Deal 7. Removal of primary and secondary sanctions on Iran according to a schedule, if a Final Deal is reached 8. Freezing of Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the United States not tightening sanctions during negotiations 9. Temporary lifting of sanctions on Iranian oil and petrochemicals 10. The United States will gradually release frozen Iranian assets if negotiations make progress I cannot say US unconditionally surrendered as there a few terms they will need to work through but it’s pretty f’ing close as they agreed to everyone of Irans terms. (If only they didn’t listen to Israel and agreed to the peace terms from Oman) Edited May 27 by ourkid8
dwy000 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 minute ago, ourkid8 said: Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Iran and the United States Details of the current Peace Deal, per an Iranian MP: (It’s a beauty, as Trump calls it - It’s the art of the deal) 1. Declaration of the end of the war throughout the Middle East 2. Respect for each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity 3. Negotiation a Final deal within 60 days, the deadline of which may be extended by mutual agreement of the parties 4. Lifting of the naval blockade within 30 days and withdrawal of American troops from vicinity of Iran 5. Opening of the Strait of Hormuz by Iran within 30 days 6. A pledge of a $300 billion reconstruction program for Iran upon the signing of the Final Deal 7. Removal of primary and secondary sanctions on Iran according to a schedule, if a Final Deal is reached 8. Freezing of Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for the United States not tightening sanctions during negotiations 9. Temporary lifting of sanctions on Iranian oil and petrochemicals 10. The United States will gradually release frozen Iranian assets if negotiations make progress Doesn't #3 completely undermine and negate everything else? This doesnt say anything.
73 Reds Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Doesn't #3 completely undermine and negate everything else? This doesnt say anything. Correct. An MOU isn't worth the paper it is written on.
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 39 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Correct. An MOU isn't worth the paper it is written on. How much of the $300B is Israel’s portion?
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 54 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Doesn't #3 completely undermine and negate everything else? This doesnt say anything. This is to start negotiating the nuclear deal. Since these type of deals takes years as per the JCPOA we will never see a final deal and the dates will keep on getting pushed out. Essentially, trump is kicking the can down the road for the next president to figure it out.
Gregmal Posted May 27 Posted May 27 If getting free shit is really Irans objective, then man they really need to wake up and invest in some worldwide media access. Cuz you don’t need to be a perennial nuisance to pretty much the entire world and (not gonna debate specifics but insert any number of abrasive behaviors) the way they seem to go about existing, just for a some billions pledged towards advancement. Look at Europe, look at NATO, look at the Asian markets, all the BS North American projects, heck even areas of the Middle East; if you simply exist and just stop being a nuisance there’s so much free money being doled out by the old boys clubs. All it requires to access is, you know, not insisting on being a major sponsor of terrorism?!?!
73 Reds Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, Gregmal said: If getting free shit is really Irans objective, then man they really need to wake up and invest in some worldwide media access. Cuz you don’t need to be a perennial nuisance to pretty much the entire world and (not gonna debate specifics but insert any number of abrasive behaviors) the way they seem to go about existing, just for a some billions pledged towards advancement. Look at Europe, look at NATO, look at the Asian markets, all the BS North American projects, heck even areas of the Middle East; if you simply exist and just stop being a nuisance there’s so much free money being doled out by the old boys clubs. All it requires to access is, you know, not insisting on being a major sponsor of terrorism?!?! Logic, reason, and Western common sense thinking are not part of their ideology. That, in a nutshell is why we can't negotiate with them or trust them. The only real solution is to destroy them.
dwy000 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 24 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: This is to start negotiating the nuclear deal. Since these type of deals takes years as per the JCPOA we will never see a final deal and the dates will keep on getting pushed out. Essentially, trump is kicking the can down the road for the next president to figure it out. Which brings me back to the point that this MOU is worthless and meaningless.
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gregmal said: If getting free shit is really Irans objective, then man they really need to wake up and invest in some worldwide media access. Cuz you don’t need to be a perennial nuisance to pretty much the entire world and (not gonna debate specifics but insert any number of abrasive behaviors) the way they seem to go about existing, just for a some billions pledged towards advancement. Look at Europe, look at NATO, look at the Asian markets, all the BS North American projects, heck even areas of the Middle East; if you simply exist and just stop being a nuisance there’s so much free money being doled out by the old boys clubs. All it requires to access is, you know, not insisting on being a major sponsor of terrorism?!?! You don’t fully comprehend the level of sanctions on Iran. Iran exited US control after the revolution and these sanctions are a way to control them eg look how US tells Israel when to jump, we will never ever agree to be under someone’s thumb Now that those shackles will be released, watch the country thrive! (Everyone blames the government but it was US/Israel holding them back) Edited May 27 by ourkid8
Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 10 hours ago, Charlie said: The U.S. health minister is really doing a good job. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/26/us/video/rfkjr-snakes-grab-bare-hands-wrangling All I hear is the "Benny Hill" theme song music playing over and over! He's a complete moron on so many levels. Cheers!
Parsad Posted May 27 Posted May 27 3 hours ago, ourkid8 said: You don’t fully comprehend the level of sanctions on Iran. Iran exited US control after the revolution and these sanctions are a way to control them eg look how US tells Israel when to jump, we will never ever agree to be under someone’s thumb Now that those shackles will be released, watch the country thrive! (Everyone blames the government but it was US/Israel holding them back) - without being part of the global economy, we were able to defend ourselves from a super power! US/Israel holding them back or their determined and fruitless efforts to have nukes? It's like the chicken and the egg...the latter gave rise to the former! Cheers!
ourkid8 Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Parsad said: US/Israel holding them back or their determined and fruitless efforts to have nukes? It's like the chicken and the egg...the latter gave rise to the former! Cheers! Repeating the same propaganda over and over, with zero actual evidence beyond ‘listen to dumb Trump and dumber Netanyahu,’ doesn’t magically make it true! - I know the cartoon drawing is really compelling! As Canadians, we really respected PM Chrétien because he saw the BS from Bush and avoided joining US attacking Iraq over “weapons of mass destruction”. It’s the same BS again and again, you are smarter then that. Edited May 28 by ourkid8
LC Posted May 27 Posted May 27 8 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Logic, reason, and Western common sense thinking are not part of their ideology. That, in a nutshell is why we can't negotiate with them or trust them. The only real solution is to destroy them. This makes me laugh… Trump is the least trustworthy counterparty I can think of. Hell, I’d rather do deals with crackheads and zealots.
ourkid8 Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) On 5/25/2026 at 9:28 PM, cubsfan said: Yeah, honestly - there are a whole lot of assumptions and speculation in your question. There is a very messy negotiation going on now for months, with all kinds of deception and talking points. I've absolutely no clue what is true and what is not. So it's better to just see what happens instead of micromanage every little agenda item. Listen to joe Kent a true American hero speak the truth on the Israeli lobby. I want you to be MAGA, stand up and take your country back!!! - not via assumptions and speculations but by facts that your foreign policy is being dictated by a foreign government. https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2059732956130742457/video/1?s=46 Edited May 28 by ourkid8
adesigar Posted May 28 Posted May 28 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-investigating-whether-trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-committed-perjury/ I guess with the current injustice department the “Anti-Weaponisation fund might turn out to be a good idea. They will need to pay all the people Trump is making them target.
cubsfan Posted May 28 Posted May 28 9 hours ago, adesigar said: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-investigating-whether-trump-accuser-e-jean-carroll-committed-perjury/ I guess with the current injustice department the “Anti-Weaponisation fund might turn out to be a good idea. They will need to pay all the people Trump is making them target. Yeah, nothing like taking your rape claim from an episode of "Law and Order" - and not being able to remember what year it happened. She was such a credible grifter - after she lied about Reid Hoffman paying her fees in a deposition. Don't dare question her motives about lying though.
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