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@PlanMaestro recently lamented that his favorite investment board didn't even have a comment related to Emerging Markets.  Well, as a concession, here it is.  I, for one, have not spent much/any time looking at them and tend to stick with U.S. based names because that is what I most familiar with.  That said, I'm interested in getting up the learning curve of some EM names with the help of others...

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Well maybe he is right but as far as I see it the best investment for emerging market is PEP, KO, AGK, JNJ, IBM, Posco etc. so I think the investment board have been right :D

Like Warren Buffet recently said I like stuff that moves :D example AGK. Anyone how lived in a third world knows that their power supply is abysmal.     

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From what I see looking at the EM carnage out there, there appears to be three areas of interest I see:

 

1) Russian oil & gas companies (such as Lukoil, Tatneft and Gazprom)

2) Chinese, Russian and Brazilian banks (such as Bank of China, China Construction Bank, ICBC, Sberbank and Santandar (Brasil)); and

3) Korean Preferreds (such as SK Group, Hyundai Motors, LG Group, Amore Group and Lotte Chilsung)

 

For 1 and 3 above, I have looked at identified some interesting names but for number 2 I have not been able to analyze these to get comfortable except to see what some other have bought.  There was some discussion on BSBR on another thread but I was wondering if anyone has looked at any of the Chinese or Russian banks. TIA.

 

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i just purchased chix.  it makes me happy to see that you are looking in the same sector.

 

i didn't feel like i knew enough, or even trusted the information available to me enough to make an informed choice between individual banks.

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From what I see looking at the EM carnage out there, there appears to be three areas of interest I see:

 

1) Russian oil & gas companies (such as Lukoil, Tatneft and Gazprom)

2) Chinese, Russian and Brazilian banks (such as Bank of China, China Construction Bank, ICBC, Sberbank and Santandar (Brasil)); and

3) Korean Preferreds (such as SK Group, Hyundai Motors, LG Group, Amore Group and Lotte Chilsung)

 

For 1 and 3 above, I have looked at identified some interesting names but for number 2 I have not been able to analyze these to get comfortable except to see what some other have bought.  There was some discussion on BSBR on another thread but I was wondering if anyone has looked at any of the Chinese or Russian banks. TIA.

 

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Just for screening purposes - do Korean prefs all have slightly different characteristics or are most or all of them equivalent to common but no voting?

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Hey guys,

long time no post. We had a very interesting discussion with Emerging Markets expert Axel Krohne. He is really diving deep in unknown markets, likes Nigera, Laos or in Eastern Europe. Have a look here

and here

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Most of the funds from Matthews are pretty good for emerging markets. I have small positions in their China and China Dividend funds.

 

Vanguard Emerging Markets is a decent choice. Though if I had to guess, I would say VMMSX, NEWFX, or SIGIX will probably do a little better long term.

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Pimco has one of those fundamental plus mutual funds using a RAFI index.  I used to hold that but I decided no more swaps.  FNDE follows a RAFI index for emerging markets.  Seems like it makes sense in EM to me because it uses shareholder yield as a big part of the muscle movement (seems like it might steer away from some of the non-capitalist impulses/firms and other agency costs). 

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