KJP Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 There's likely $1000 lying around in this odd-lot tender (note Section 7(d)(v) of the Offer to Purchase), but you do have to go through the effort of picking it up: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1829959/000119312523282534/d559699dsc13e4f.htm
Dinar Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, KJP said: There's likely $1000 lying around in this odd-lot tender (note Section 7(d)(v) of the Offer to Purchase), but you do have to go through the effort of picking it up: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1829959/000119312523282534/d559699dsc13e4f.htm Be careful of withholding taxes! They are very high in this tender offer.
ValueArb Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dinar said: Be careful of withholding taxes! They are very high in this tender offer. My calculation is that the 15% withholding tax will work out to $7, so really only $300 gain for odd-lotters.
Dinar Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, ValueArb said: My calculation is that the 15% withholding tax will work out to $7, so really only $300 gain for odd-lotters. Correct. I would caveat it though that it may not apply to IRA account, but check with your tax accountant to be sure.
KJP Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Dinar said: Be careful of withholding taxes! They are very high in this tender offer. You are right! I completely missed this. Following up on your note about IRAs, those interested should see this: https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/t4016/exempt-s-organizations-under-article-xxi-canada-united-states-tax-convention.html I don't think it's just a legal question. Even assuming IRAs are exempt in theory, it looks like you and your IRA custodian have to file the right paperwork. I'm going to try this in an IRA to see what happens. I suspect my custodian will withhold the taxes.
KJP Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, ValueArb said: My calculation is that the 15% withholding tax will work out to $7, so really only $300 gain for odd-lotters. I'm glad you and @Dinar were paying better attention to the details than I was. I agree the withholding tax will be very high unless your exempt for some reason.
ValueArb Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 6:14 PM, KJP said: I'm glad you and @Dinar were paying better attention to the details than I was. I agree the withholding tax will be very high unless your exempt for some reason. Occasionally tender offers get modified to strip out the odd lot provision when its abused. I've read about the DCBO arbitrage in so many places now that I'm worried about this happening.
Sweet Posted December 14, 2023 Author Posted December 14, 2023 I too have never heard of them. Looks interesting:
ValueArb Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 16 hours ago, Sweet said: I too have never heard of them. Looks interesting: Nothing better than finding a good company operating in obscurity. Thanks for sharing!
Saluki Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 I like behavioral economics books like Freakonomics, Thinking Fast and Slow, and The Undercover Economist. I was talking to a friend recently about the author of one of these books who used to write a Dear Abby type advice column called Dear Economist where people would ask life advice and he would answer from the perspective of an economist. I googled and saw that although he doesn't write the column anymore, he has the old articles on his blog. Here's a sample: Can a cheap wine be a winner at dinner? | Tim Harford Enjoy.
ValueArb Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-19/demise-of-small-caps-haunts-wall-street-in-the-age-of-big-tech?srnd=markets-vp Quote Since markets soured at the start of 2022, the Russell 2000 is still down roughly 12%, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 have more or less recouped their losses. Quote All that emboldened a Furey Research Partners strategist to sum up the threat to the asset class in blunt terms in a recent note: “It is time to face the facts — the “Death of Small Cap Equities” is upon us... He still sees a resurgence for the cohort fueled by wide valuation discounts. Yet Burton understands the challenges that have spurred investor apathy. At the center of the concern is evidence of impaired profitability that some worry has become a permanent feature of the market landscape. According to Verdad, the median American small cap in 1995 posted gross profits of about 29% over assets. Now it’s just 14% — even excluding health care, with its share of profitless biotech and pharma stocks. The contrast in balance sheets among big and small businesses has also become stark. Over the past two decades, the largest US companies doubled their earnings relative to interest payments, Societe Generale SA data show. That fortified them against the impact of rising interest rates. Small caps are nowhere near matching the feat. Stranger still, this deterioration has been mostly an American phenomenon; in Japan and Europe, little has changed, according to Verdad. “We see secular reasons why it won’t re-rate back to those high levels,” said Thushka Maharaj, a multi-asset strategist at JPMorgan Asset Management, referring to the long-term outlook for US small-caps. “It’s more profitable companies staying private because they have financing privately, but also large established companies growing their revenue because of this concentration in new innovative technology.”
ValueArb Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 12:38 PM, KJP said: There's likely $1000 lying around in this odd-lot tender (note Section 7(d)(v) of the Offer to Purchase), but you do have to go through the effort of picking it up: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1829959/000119312523282534/d559699dsc13e4f.htm On 12/2/2023 at 2:51 PM, Dinar said: Be careful of withholding taxes! They are very high in this tender offer. Update to you and anyone else who might be playing the DCBO tender offer, if you have not tendered yet you can sell your shares right now for a little over $51.50. I actually got out at $51.29, figure its worthwhile to avoid the hassle of tendering and the minor risk they pull the odd lot provision or that I get stuck paying withholding taxes even though shares were all from IRAs. Thanks to Interactive Brokers for not getting their corporate transaction forms ready yet so I could still sell my shares. My guess is that because so many shares are locked up in the tender that there is a lack of sellers, so I might be premature in getting out. I'm putting on some popcorn and watching to see if it busts over $55 this week, which would be both hilarious and painful to anyone locked into the tender.
nafregnum Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 5:47 PM, Spekulatius said: Sarepta Risk and the FDA (Drugs that don’t work but get approved anyways due to pressure from orchestrated patient advocacy groups) https://open.substack.com/pub/johnhempton/p/sarepta-risk-and-the-fda?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web From a book I just read, here's some supportive evidence of this kind of thing happening: “Aducanumab is the first new drug to be approved for Alzheimer’s treatment in nearly twenty years. The FDA’s approval of aducanumab proved to be one of the most controversial in recent memory. Not only has the drug been considered to be clinically ineffective, a third of patients getting aducanumab suffered swelling or bleeding in the brain. Not a single member of the FDA expert advisory panel voted in favor of its approval, and three of the committee members resigned in protest, one calling it “probably the worst drug approval decision in recent US history.” The response from the scientific community may best be summed up by a commentary written by the head of the American Geriatrics Society titled, “My Head Just Exploded.…” Check out the whole fascinating saga in https://see.nf/aducanumab. A congressional investigation concluded the approval of aducanumab was “rife with irregularities,” raising “serious concerns about FDA’s lapses in protocol and [the drug company] Biogen’s disregard of efficacy. That didn’t stop the FDA from its 2023 accelerated approval of a similar antibody, lecanemab (Leqembi), of similar questionable efficacy and safety.” Excerpt From How Not to Age Michael Greger, M.D., FACLM
Sweet Posted December 20, 2023 Author Posted December 20, 2023 I once read the results of a product in clinical trials for heart diseases. I couldn’t see any evidence that it produced a desirable effect. Believe it was approve by the FDA anyway. I was surprised by that decision.
Sweet Posted December 24, 2023 Author Posted December 24, 2023 Got the table below from https://microcapclub.com/multibaggers/ which is run by Ian Cassel. They look for small caps that are many multibaggers. It’s the second time today I’ve seen XPEL. Might be of interest to some. Hopefully the table formats ok 1 Company Symbol DWP PWP Price Today/ *Takeout Price Currebt Return 2 XPEL XPEL 6/10/13 $0.36 $56.16 13597.56% 3 Celsius Holdings CELH 7/10/19 $4.25 $50.04 3423.94% 4 Straight Path Communications STRP* 10/2/13 $5.58 $184.00 3197.49% 5 Napco Security Technologies NSSC 12/18/11 $2.15 $34.72 3144.86% 6 HemaCare HEMA* 2/23/17 $1.00 $25.40 2440.00% 7 US Concrete USCR* 11/17/11 $3.12 $74.00 2271.79% 8 Heska Corp HSKA* 10/22/13 $5.74 $120.00 1990.59% 9 Smith Midland SMID 1/25/13 $1.89 $38.00 1910.58% 10 Willdan Group WLDN 8/28/12 $1.21 $21.69 1692.56% 11 BioSyent CVE:RX 2/17/12 $0.55 $9.05 1408.33% 12 Zynex ZYXI 11/16/11 $0.75 $10.64 1318.67% 13 BlueLinx Holdings BXC 9/29/16 $9.87 $113.59 1192.26% 14 EVI Industries EVI 11/16/12 $1.89 $23.99 1169.31% 15 Neogenomics NEO 7/13/12 $1.80 $20.73 1051.67% 16 NV5 Holdings NVEE 4/23/14 $10.00 $112.28 1033.00% 17 Positron POSC 3/29/20 $0.13 $1.45 1015.38% 18 Goeasy TSE:GSY 2/3/14 $15.10 $160.57 962.67% 19 FitLife Brands FTLF 7/4/14 $2.09 $21.06 907.66% 20 KORU Medical Systems KRMD 6/11/14 $0.29 $2.38 852.00% 21 Transcat TRNS 5/17/17 $11.90 $107.65 812.29% 22 Centrus Energy LEU 4/24/20 $6.18 $54.17 776.54% 23 Galaxy Gaming GLXZ 10/3/11 $0.24 $2.05 754.17% 24 UFP Technologies UFPT 6/28/16 $21.16 $176.60 753.14% 25 Ergomed PLC LON:ERGO 1/18/16 $166.00 $1,346.00 710.84% 26 Amryt Pharma AMYT* 11/22/20 $1.58 $12.50 689.14% 27 Photon Control PHO.TO* 7/23/14 $0.47 $3.60 665.96% 28 Pro-Dex PDEX 7/19/14 $2.14 $17.21 661.50% 29 Impinj PI 2/17/18 $11.07 $88.01 629.77% 30 Caesars Entertainment CZR 4/14/15 $6.62 $46.82 607.25% 31 InfuSystems INFU 3/19/13 $1.58 $10.70 603.95% 32 OneSoft Solutions CVE:OSS 8/6/15 $0.11 $0.75 581.82% 33 Evergreen Gaming TNA.V* 5/15/16 $0.13 $0.89 581.06% 34 Misonix MSON* 11/7/12 $4.12 $28.00 579.61% 35 Where Food Comes From WFCF 3/2/12 $2.00 $13.51 575.50% 36 TechPrecision Corp. TPCS 1/25/16 $0.68 $5.50 570.73% 37 Global Atomic TSE:GLO 2/29/20 $0.40 $2.74 568.29% 38 Gentium SpA GENT* 2/2/12 $8.45 $56.00 562.72% 39 Luna Innovations LUNA 6/12/15 $1.10 $7.10 551.38% 40 DocGo DCGO 5/16/21 $9.99 $5.39 539.00% 41 RCI Hospitality Holdings RICK 5/26/14 $10.50 $66.45 532.86% 42 Score Media and Gaming SCR.TO* 11/11/19 $5.90 $36.51 518.73% 43 Attunity ATTU* 4/26/12 $3.80 $23.50 518.42% 44 Total Telecom CVE:TTZ 12/20/16 $0.07 $0.49 512.50% 45 Green Brick Partners GRBK 12/5/14 $8.31 $52.57 511.28% 46 Tornado Global Hydrovacs CVE:TGH 1/5/17 $0.08 $0.48 500.00% 47 Dot Hill Systems HILL* 4/12/13 $1.67 $9.75 483.83% 48 Simulations Plus SLP 7/12/16 $7.77 $45.41 470.48% 49 Trisura TSE:TSU 7/16/17 $23.71 $33.86 467.17% 50 Kneat.com TSE:KSI 1/8/17 $0.50 $3.00 445.45% 51 Optex Systems OPXS 7/18/18 $1.10 $5.99 444.55% 52 AMREP Corporation AXR 1/13/16 $4.10 $21.75 437.04% 53 EACO Corporation EACO 4/4/15 $6.25 $33.85 428.08% 54 Idaho Strategic Resources IDR 12/19/13 $1.26 $6.20 421.01% 55 Genie Energy GNE 8/12/21 $6.06 $29.50 386.80% 56 Sono-Tek SOTK 7/8/14 $1.20 $5.52 375.86% 57 Liberator Medical LBMH* 1/11/13 $0.71 $3.35 371.83% 58 Collectors Universe CLCT* 4/22/20 $19.57 $92.00 370.11% 59 Alphatec Holdings ATEC 10/2/17 $2.65 $15.09 368.63% 60 Clinuvel Pharmaceuticals CLVLY 4/28/15 $2.35 $10.97 366.81% 61 Viemed Healthcare TSE:VMD 1/4/18 $2.10 $10.45 366.52% 62 Docebo TSE:DCBO 10/10/19 $11.41 $67.97 344.25% 63 Arcturus Therapeutics ARCT 8/17/17 $7.14 $31.70 343.98% 64 Torotel TTLO* 8/28/19 $1.40 $6.17 340.71% 65 Ducommun DCO 4/5/12 $11.77 $51.75 339.68% 66 OptimizeRx OPRX 3/8/12 $3.30 $14.00 324.24% 67 Electromed ELMD 3/24/15 $2.50 $10.64 320.55% 68 eXp World Holdings EXPI 5/28/17 $3.65 $15.19 316.16% 69 LiveChat Software WSE:LVC 8/9/19 $35.60 $147.80 315.17% 70 Fab-Form Industries CVE:FBF 3/9/17 $0.40 $1.66 315.00% 71 Sapiens SPNS 2/10/14 $7.30 $29.20 310.69% 72 Hamilton Thorne TSE:HTL 11/30/14 $0.36 $1.35 309.09% 73 Mama's Creations MAMA 7/24/17 $1.15 $4.66 305.22% 74 Valeura Energy TSE:VLE 3/28/16 $0.72 $2.91 304.17% 75 Energy Fuels UUUU 11/11/19 $1.96 $7.68 291.84% 76 Research Solutions RSSS 3/2/16 $0.60 $2.65 289.71% 77 ADF Group TSE:DRX 2/16/21 $1.72 $7.01 289.44% 78 Propel Media PROM 7/27/18 $0.21 $0.89 286.96% 79 Solitron Devices SODI 11/30/20 $4.12 $15.89 285.68% 80 PharmChem PCHM 12/5/16 $0.69 $2.65 284.06% 81 IBEX Technology CVE:IBT 2/11/21 $0.29 $1.14 280.00% 82 IMImobile PLC IMO.L* 12/28/16 $157.00 $595.00 278.98% 83 Butler National Corporation BUKS 2/24/15 $0.18 $0.72 278.95% 84 Hudson Technologies HDSN 7/24/12 $3.50 $13.19 276.86% 85 FitLife Brands FTLF 12/30/13 $5.63 $21.06 274.07% 86 Leatt Corp LEAT 3/30/15 $2.30 $9.35 274.00% 87 Monarch Cement MCEM 11/23/16 $42.06 $153.00 263.77% 88 IEC Electronics IEC* 2/22/16 $4.27 $15.35 259.48% 89 Alter NRG Corp NRG.TO* 12/8/12 $1.40 $5.00 257.14% 90 Performant Financial PFMT 12/20/20 $0.76 $2.92 256.10% 91 Cogstate ASX:CGS 1/27/20 $0.42 $1.46 256.10% 92 Escalade ESCA 2/25/13 $5.83 $20.74 255.75% 93 PDC Energy NASDAQ:PDCE* 7/2/11 $20.25 $72.00 255.56% 94 ARI Network Services ARIS* 12/3/12 $0.39 $1.35 246.15% 95 SharpSpring SHSP* 4/21/15 $4.98 $17.10 243.37% 96 Quest Resources QRHC 12/13/17 $1.96 $6.96 241.18% 97 Innodata INOD 11/23/15 $2.53 $8.58 239.13% 98 Crawford United CRAWA 8/14/17 $9.40 $32.00 236.84% 99 Trupanion TRUP 3/28/16 $9.29 $30.98 233.48% 100 M-Tron MPTI 1/23/23 $10.10 $33.46 231.29% 101 Rosetta Stone RST* 9/12/14 $9.07 $30.00 230.76%
Dalal.Holdings Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) On 12/19/2023 at 10:50 PM, nafregnum said: From a book I just read, here's some supportive evidence of this kind of thing happening: “Aducanumab is the first new drug to be approved for Alzheimer’s treatment in nearly twenty years. The FDA’s approval of aducanumab proved to be one of the most controversial in recent memory. Not only has the drug been considered to be clinically ineffective, a third of patients getting aducanumab suffered swelling or bleeding in the brain. Not a single member of the FDA expert advisory panel voted in favor of its approval, and three of the committee members resigned in protest, one calling it “probably the worst drug approval decision in recent US history.” The response from the scientific community may best be summed up by a commentary written by the head of the American Geriatrics Society titled, “My Head Just Exploded.…” Check out the whole fascinating saga in https://see.nf/aducanumab. A congressional investigation concluded the approval of aducanumab was “rife with irregularities,” raising “serious concerns about FDA’s lapses in protocol and [the drug company] Biogen’s disregard of efficacy. That didn’t stop the FDA from its 2023 accelerated approval of a similar antibody, lecanemab (Leqembi), of similar questionable efficacy and safety.” Excerpt From How Not to Age Michael Greger, M.D., FACLM Even better is that if Aducanumab got full medicare support, it would become the most expensive drug ever for medicare at tens of thousands of dollars per year per patient (and medicare is already a massive expenditure as it is)...a massively expensive drug that probably doesn't work paid for by the U.S. taxpayer...absolutely disgusting. https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/experts-estimate-future-spending-medicare-aducanumab-treatment#:~:text=The analysis revealed that if,impact on Medicare's annual budget. I remember supposedly intelligent investor types were pumping BIIB when it was approved. Reminds me in many ways of Valeant... Edited December 24, 2023 by Dalal.Holdings
Sweet Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 Has anyone looked at the UK company Legal and General? It is an insurance company (among other things) and has a fat dividend and a relatively low PE. It has negative revenue in the past few years, something I cannot get my head around. The details of this company are over my head unfortunately.
gfp Posted January 4 Posted January 4 17 minutes ago, Sweet said: Has anyone looked at the UK company Legal and General? It is an insurance company (among other things) and has a fat dividend and a relatively low PE. It has negative revenue in the past few years, something I cannot get my head around. The details of this company are over my head unfortunately. A big annuity business like L&G with a big traditional corporate bond investment portfolio will trade in the short term with the direction of interest rates. So keep in mind your expectations for UK & US interest rates going forward.
Sweet Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 On 1/4/2024 at 12:33 PM, gfp said: A big annuity business like L&G with a big traditional corporate bond investment portfolio will trade in the short term with the direction of interest rates. So keep in mind your expectations for UK & US interest rates going forward. Thanks GFP. It’s too hard for me so decided to just move on.
Sweet Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 (edited) I like John Huber’s writing, he makes the complex simple. I don’t have a subscription though. Anyone know what company he is referring to? https://basehitinvesting.substack.com/p/a-royalty-on-the-growth-of-others Edited January 5 by Sweet
ValueArb Posted January 5 Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Sweet said: I like John Huber’s writing, he makes the complex simple. I don’t have a subscription though. Anyone know what company he is referring to? https://basehitinvesting.substack.com/p/a-royalty-on-the-growth-of-others My first guess is NRP.
Sweet Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, ValueArb said: My first guess is NRP. That was my thought too because he had a large new holding in it: https://whalewisdom.com/filer/saber-capital-managment-llc Thermal coal doesn’t much interest me, and as I’ve learned from investing in energy, expectations that management will pay out nearly always disappoint.
Spekulatius Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Sweet said: Thanks GFP. It’s too hard for me so decided to just move on. Besides, all UK stocks suck, doesn't matter what business they are in (tongue in cheek comment)
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