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27 minutes ago, ValueArb said:

 

My calculation is that the 15% withholding tax will work out to $7, so really only $300 gain for odd-lotters.

Correct.  I would caveat it though that it may not apply to IRA account, but check with your tax accountant to be sure.

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3 hours ago, Dinar said:

Be careful of withholding taxes!  They are very high in this tender offer.  

 

You are right!  I completely missed this.  Following up on your note about IRAs, those interested should see this:

 

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/t4016/exempt-s-organizations-under-article-xxi-canada-united-states-tax-convention.html

 

I don't think it's just a legal question.  Even assuming IRAs are exempt in theory, it looks like you and your IRA custodian have to file the right paperwork.  I'm going to try this in an IRA to see what happens.  I suspect my custodian will withhold the taxes.

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2 hours ago, ValueArb said:

 

My calculation is that the 15% withholding tax will work out to $7, so really only $300 gain for odd-lotters.

 

I'm glad you and @Dinar were paying better attention to the details than I was.  I agree the withholding tax will be very high unless your exempt for some reason.

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On 12/2/2023 at 6:14 PM, KJP said:

 

I'm glad you and @Dinar were paying better attention to the details than I was.  I agree the withholding tax will be very high unless your exempt for some reason.

 

Occasionally tender offers get modified to strip out the odd lot provision when its abused. I've read about the DCBO arbitrage in so many places now that I'm worried about this happening.

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I like behavioral economics books like Freakonomics, Thinking Fast and Slow, and The Undercover Economist.  I was talking to a friend recently about the author of one of these books who used to write a Dear Abby type advice column called Dear Economist where people would ask life advice and he would answer from the perspective of an economist. I googled and saw that although he doesn't write the column anymore, he has the old articles on his blog.  Here's a sample:

 

Can a cheap wine be a winner at dinner? | Tim Harford

 

Enjoy. 

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-19/demise-of-small-caps-haunts-wall-street-in-the-age-of-big-tech?srnd=markets-vp

 

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Since markets soured at the start of 2022, the Russell 2000 is still down roughly 12%, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 have more or less recouped their losses.

 

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All that emboldened a Furey Research Partners strategist to sum up the threat to the asset class in blunt terms in a recent note: “It is time to face the facts — the “Death of Small Cap Equities” is upon us...

 

He still sees a resurgence for the cohort fueled by wide valuation discounts. Yet Burton understands the challenges that have spurred investor apathy. At the center of the concern is evidence of impaired profitability that some worry has become a permanent feature of the market landscape. According to Verdad, the median American small cap in 1995 posted gross profits of about 29% over assets. Now it’s just 14% — even excluding health care, with its share of profitless biotech and pharma stocks.

 

The contrast in balance sheets among big and small businesses has also become stark. Over the past two decades, the largest US companies doubled their earnings relative to interest payments, Societe Generale SA data show. That fortified them against the impact of rising interest rates. Small caps are nowhere near matching the feat.

 

Stranger still, this deterioration has been mostly an American phenomenon; in Japan and Europe, little has changed, according to Verdad.
 

“We see secular reasons why it won’t re-rate back to those high levels,” said Thushka Maharaj, a multi-asset strategist at JPMorgan Asset Management, referring to the long-term outlook for US small-caps. “It’s more profitable companies staying private because they have financing privately, but also large established companies growing their revenue because of this concentration in new innovative technology.”

 

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On 12/2/2023 at 12:38 PM, KJP said:

There's likely $1000 lying around in this odd-lot tender (note Section 7(d)(v) of the Offer to Purchase), but you do have to go through the effort of picking it up:  https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1829959/000119312523282534/d559699dsc13e4f.htm

 

On 12/2/2023 at 2:51 PM, Dinar said:

Be careful of withholding taxes!  They are very high in this tender offer.  

 

Update to you and anyone else who might be playing the DCBO tender offer, if you have not tendered yet you can sell your shares right now for a little over $51.50. I actually got out at $51.29, figure its worthwhile to avoid the hassle of tendering and the minor risk they pull the odd lot provision or that I get stuck paying withholding taxes even though shares were all from IRAs. Thanks to Interactive Brokers for not getting their corporate transaction forms ready yet so I could still sell my shares.

 

My guess is that because so many shares are locked up in the tender that there is a lack of sellers, so I might be premature in getting out. I'm putting on some popcorn and watching to see if it busts over $55 this week, which would be both hilarious and painful to anyone locked into the tender.

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On 10/31/2023 at 5:47 PM, Spekulatius said:

Sarepta Risk and the FDA (Drugs that don’t work but get approved anyways due to pressure from orchestrated patient advocacy groups)

https://open.substack.com/pub/johnhempton/p/sarepta-risk-and-the-fda?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

From a book I just read, here's some supportive evidence of this kind of thing happening:

 

“Aducanumab is the first new drug to be approved for Alzheimer’s treatment in nearly twenty years. The FDA’s approval of aducanumab proved to be one of the most controversial in recent memory. Not only has the drug been considered to be clinically ineffective, a third of patients getting aducanumab suffered swelling or bleeding in the brain. Not a single member of the FDA expert advisory panel voted in favor of its approval, and three of the committee members resigned in protest, one calling it “probably the worst drug approval decision in recent US history.” The response from the scientific community may best be summed up by a commentary written by the head of the American Geriatrics Society titled, “My Head Just Exploded.…”


Check out the whole fascinating saga in https://see.nf/aducanumab. A congressional investigation concluded the approval of aducanumab was “rife with irregularities,” raising “serious concerns about FDA’s lapses in protocol and [the drug company] Biogen’s disregard of efficacy.  That didn’t stop the FDA from its 2023 accelerated approval of a similar antibody, lecanemab (Leqembi), of similar questionable efficacy and safety.” 

 

Excerpt From
How Not to Age
Michael Greger, M.D., FACLM


 

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Got the table below from https://microcapclub.com/multibaggers/ which is run by Ian Cassel.

 

They look for small caps that are many multibaggers.

 


It’s the second time today I’ve seen XPEL.

Might be of interest to some.  Hopefully the table formats ok

 

1

Company

Symbol

DWP

PWP

Price Today/ 

*Takeout Price

Currebt Return

2

XPEL

XPEL

6/10/13

$0.36

$56.16

13597.56%

3

Celsius Holdings

CELH

7/10/19

$4.25

$50.04

3423.94%

4

Straight Path Communications

STRP*

10/2/13

$5.58

$184.00

3197.49%

5

Napco Security Technologies

NSSC

12/18/11

$2.15

$34.72

3144.86%

6

HemaCare

HEMA*

2/23/17

$1.00

$25.40

2440.00%

7

US Concrete

USCR*

11/17/11

$3.12

$74.00

2271.79%

8

Heska Corp

HSKA*

10/22/13

$5.74

$120.00

1990.59%

9

Smith Midland

SMID

1/25/13

$1.89

$38.00

1910.58%

10

Willdan Group

WLDN

8/28/12

$1.21

$21.69

1692.56%

11

BioSyent

CVE:RX

2/17/12

$0.55

$9.05

1408.33%

12

Zynex

ZYXI

11/16/11

$0.75

$10.64

1318.67%

13

BlueLinx Holdings

BXC

9/29/16

$9.87

$113.59

1192.26%

14

EVI Industries

EVI

11/16/12

$1.89

$23.99

1169.31%

15

Neogenomics

NEO

7/13/12

$1.80

$20.73

1051.67%

16

NV5 Holdings

NVEE

4/23/14

$10.00

$112.28

1033.00%

17

Positron

POSC

3/29/20

$0.13

$1.45

1015.38%

18

Goeasy

TSE:GSY

2/3/14

$15.10

$160.57

962.67%

19

FitLife Brands

FTLF

7/4/14

$2.09

$21.06

907.66%

20

KORU Medical Systems

KRMD

6/11/14

$0.29

$2.38

852.00%

21

Transcat

TRNS

5/17/17

$11.90

$107.65

812.29%

22

Centrus Energy

LEU

4/24/20

$6.18

$54.17

776.54%

23

Galaxy Gaming

GLXZ

10/3/11

$0.24

$2.05

754.17%

24

UFP Technologies

UFPT

6/28/16

$21.16

$176.60

753.14%

25

Ergomed PLC

LON:ERGO

1/18/16

$166.00

$1,346.00

710.84%

26

Amryt Pharma

AMYT*

11/22/20

$1.58

$12.50

689.14%

27

Photon Control

PHO.TO*

7/23/14

$0.47

$3.60

665.96%

28

Pro-Dex

PDEX

7/19/14

$2.14

$17.21

661.50%

29

Impinj

PI

2/17/18

$11.07

$88.01

629.77%

30

Caesars Entertainment

CZR

4/14/15

$6.62

$46.82

607.25%

31

InfuSystems

INFU

3/19/13

$1.58

$10.70

603.95%

32

OneSoft Solutions

CVE:OSS

8/6/15

$0.11

$0.75

581.82%

33

Evergreen Gaming

TNA.V*

5/15/16

$0.13

$0.89

581.06%

34

Misonix

MSON*

11/7/12

$4.12

$28.00

579.61%

35

Where Food Comes From

WFCF

3/2/12

$2.00

$13.51

575.50%

36

TechPrecision Corp.

TPCS

1/25/16

$0.68

$5.50

570.73%

37

Global Atomic

TSE:GLO

2/29/20

$0.40

$2.74

568.29%

38

Gentium SpA

GENT*

2/2/12

$8.45

$56.00

562.72%

39

Luna Innovations

LUNA

6/12/15

$1.10

$7.10

551.38%

40

DocGo

DCGO

5/16/21

$9.99

$5.39

539.00%

41

RCI Hospitality Holdings

RICK

5/26/14

$10.50

$66.45

532.86%

42

Score Media and Gaming

SCR.TO*

11/11/19

$5.90

$36.51

518.73%

43

Attunity

ATTU*

4/26/12

$3.80

$23.50

518.42%

44

Total Telecom

CVE:TTZ

12/20/16

$0.07

$0.49

512.50%

45

Green Brick Partners

GRBK

12/5/14

$8.31

$52.57

511.28%

46

Tornado Global Hydrovacs

CVE:TGH

1/5/17

$0.08

$0.48

500.00%

47

Dot Hill Systems

HILL*

4/12/13

$1.67

$9.75

483.83%

48

Simulations Plus

SLP

7/12/16

$7.77

$45.41

470.48%

49

Trisura

TSE:TSU

7/16/17

$23.71

$33.86

467.17%

50

Kneat.com

TSE:KSI

1/8/17

$0.50

$3.00

445.45%

51

Optex Systems

OPXS

7/18/18

$1.10

$5.99

444.55%

52

AMREP Corporation

AXR

1/13/16

$4.10

$21.75

437.04%

53

EACO Corporation

EACO

4/4/15

$6.25

$33.85

428.08%

54

Idaho Strategic Resources

IDR

12/19/13

$1.26

$6.20

421.01%

55

Genie Energy

GNE

8/12/21

$6.06

$29.50

386.80%

56

Sono-Tek

SOTK

7/8/14

$1.20

$5.52

375.86%

57

Liberator Medical

LBMH*

1/11/13

$0.71

$3.35

371.83%

58

Collectors Universe

CLCT*

4/22/20

$19.57

$92.00

370.11%

59

Alphatec Holdings

ATEC

10/2/17

$2.65

$15.09

368.63%

60

Clinuvel Pharmaceuticals

CLVLY

4/28/15

$2.35

$10.97

366.81%

61

Viemed Healthcare

TSE:VMD

1/4/18

$2.10

$10.45

366.52%

62

Docebo

TSE:DCBO

10/10/19

$11.41

$67.97

344.25%

63

Arcturus Therapeutics

ARCT

8/17/17

$7.14

$31.70

343.98%

64

Torotel

TTLO*

8/28/19

$1.40

$6.17

340.71%

65

Ducommun

DCO

4/5/12

$11.77

$51.75

339.68%

66

OptimizeRx

OPRX

3/8/12

$3.30

$14.00

324.24%

67

Electromed

ELMD

3/24/15

$2.50

$10.64

320.55%

68

eXp World Holdings

EXPI

5/28/17

$3.65

$15.19

316.16%

69

LiveChat Software

WSE:LVC

8/9/19

$35.60

$147.80

315.17%

70

Fab-Form Industries

CVE:FBF

3/9/17

$0.40

$1.66

315.00%

71

Sapiens

SPNS

2/10/14

$7.30

$29.20

310.69%

72

Hamilton Thorne

TSE:HTL

11/30/14

$0.36

$1.35

309.09%

73

Mama's Creations

MAMA

7/24/17

$1.15

$4.66

305.22%

74

Valeura Energy

TSE:VLE

3/28/16

$0.72

$2.91

304.17%

75

Energy Fuels

UUUU

11/11/19

$1.96

$7.68

291.84%

76

Research Solutions

RSSS

3/2/16

$0.60

$2.65

289.71%

77

ADF Group

TSE:DRX

2/16/21

$1.72

$7.01

289.44%

78

Propel Media

PROM

7/27/18

$0.21

$0.89

286.96%

79

Solitron Devices

SODI

11/30/20

$4.12

$15.89

285.68%

80

PharmChem

PCHM

12/5/16

$0.69

$2.65

284.06%

81

IBEX Technology

CVE:IBT

2/11/21

$0.29

$1.14

280.00%

82

IMImobile PLC

IMO.L*

12/28/16

$157.00

$595.00

278.98%

83

Butler National Corporation

BUKS

2/24/15

$0.18

$0.72

278.95%

84

Hudson Technologies

HDSN

7/24/12

$3.50

$13.19

276.86%

85

FitLife Brands

FTLF

12/30/13

$5.63

$21.06

274.07%

86

Leatt Corp

LEAT

3/30/15

$2.30

$9.35

274.00%

87

Monarch Cement

MCEM

11/23/16

$42.06

$153.00

263.77%

88

IEC Electronics

IEC*

2/22/16

$4.27

$15.35

259.48%

89

Alter NRG Corp

NRG.TO*

12/8/12

$1.40

$5.00

257.14%

90

Performant Financial

PFMT

12/20/20

$0.76

$2.92

256.10%

91

Cogstate

ASX:CGS

1/27/20

$0.42

$1.46

256.10%

92

Escalade

ESCA

2/25/13

$5.83

$20.74

255.75%

93

PDC Energy

NASDAQ:PDCE*

7/2/11

$20.25

$72.00

255.56%

94

ARI Network Services

ARIS*

12/3/12

$0.39

$1.35

246.15%

95

SharpSpring

SHSP*

4/21/15

$4.98

$17.10

243.37%

96

Quest Resources

QRHC

12/13/17

$1.96

$6.96

241.18%

97

Innodata

INOD

11/23/15

$2.53

$8.58

239.13%

98

Crawford United

CRAWA

8/14/17

$9.40

$32.00

236.84%

99

Trupanion

TRUP

3/28/16

$9.29

$30.98

233.48%

100

M-Tron

MPTI

1/23/23

$10.10

$33.46

231.29%

101

Rosetta Stone

RST*

9/12/14

$9.07

$30.00

230.76%

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On 12/19/2023 at 10:50 PM, nafregnum said:

 

From a book I just read, here's some supportive evidence of this kind of thing happening:

 

“Aducanumab is the first new drug to be approved for Alzheimer’s treatment in nearly twenty years. The FDA’s approval of aducanumab proved to be one of the most controversial in recent memory. Not only has the drug been considered to be clinically ineffective, a third of patients getting aducanumab suffered swelling or bleeding in the brain. Not a single member of the FDA expert advisory panel voted in favor of its approval, and three of the committee members resigned in protest, one calling it “probably the worst drug approval decision in recent US history.” The response from the scientific community may best be summed up by a commentary written by the head of the American Geriatrics Society titled, “My Head Just Exploded.…”


Check out the whole fascinating saga in https://see.nf/aducanumab. A congressional investigation concluded the approval of aducanumab was “rife with irregularities,” raising “serious concerns about FDA’s lapses in protocol and [the drug company] Biogen’s disregard of efficacy.  That didn’t stop the FDA from its 2023 accelerated approval of a similar antibody, lecanemab (Leqembi), of similar questionable efficacy and safety.” 

 

Excerpt From
How Not to Age
Michael Greger, M.D., FACLM


 

 

Even better is that if Aducanumab got full medicare support, it would become the most expensive drug ever for medicare at tens of thousands of dollars per year per patient (and medicare is already a massive expenditure as it is)...a massively expensive drug that probably doesn't work paid for by the U.S. taxpayer...absolutely disgusting.

 

https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/experts-estimate-future-spending-medicare-aducanumab-treatment#:~:text=The analysis revealed that if,impact on Medicare's annual budget.

 

I remember supposedly intelligent investor types were pumping BIIB when it was approved. Reminds me in many ways of Valeant...

 

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Has anyone looked at the UK company Legal and General?

 

It is an insurance company (among other things) and has a fat dividend and a relatively low PE.

 

It has negative revenue in the past few years, something I cannot get my head around.  The details of this company are over my head unfortunately.

 

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17 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Has anyone looked at the UK company Legal and General?

 

It is an insurance company (among other things) and has a fat dividend and a relatively low PE.

 

It has negative revenue in the past few years, something I cannot get my head around.  The details of this company are over my head unfortunately.

 

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A big annuity business like L&G with a big traditional corporate bond investment portfolio will trade in the short term with the direction of interest rates.  So keep in mind your expectations for UK & US interest rates going forward.

 

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On 1/4/2024 at 12:33 PM, gfp said:

 

A big annuity business like L&G with a big traditional corporate bond investment portfolio will trade in the short term with the direction of interest rates.  So keep in mind your expectations for UK & US interest rates going forward.

 

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Thanks GFP.  It’s too hard for me so decided to just move on.

 

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