Russia-Ukrainian War - Political

[Parsad]

The World's Biggest Shyster just blamed Biden for the price of eggs.  Just like Zelenskyy instigated the whole White House brouhaha!  Cheers!

[LC]

Jon Stewart's take:

 

[John Hjorth]

What a speech at US Capitol!  The whole session and the behavior of the participants is a clear token of how divided The United States of America actually is by now!

Edited yesterday at 02:57 AM by John Hjorth

[Xerxes]

12 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

What a speech at US Capitol!  The whole session and the behavior of the participants is a clear token of how divided The United States of America actually is by now!

all I want to know is the CAGR for that +300 year old person owning bunch of land and railroad   …. Post-1776 anyways 

[Parsad]

28 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

What a speech at US Capitol!  The whole session and the behavior of the participants is a clear token of how divided The United States of America actually is by now!

 

Sad part is that the Democrats have no one and nothing to rebut or fight this with.  Trott out Nancy Pelosi...have poor one-legged Texas congressman Al Green stand on one leg and protest, then have him marched out.  Like is this the best the Democrats can do?  And some of the issues that are important to both parties and Americans were never dealt with.  So now the Dems sit and watch and twiddle their thumbs because there is no Obama or Bill Clinton coming to the rescue this time.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

4 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

all I want to know is the CAGR for that +300 year old person owning bunch of land and railroad   …. Post-1776 anyways 

 

C'mon, you know the majority of those people are glitches/errors/etc that weren't found or dealt with.  Probably half those checks go to an address and get sent back to the government.  Yes, they should have been discovered and corrected, but you know they were errors.  Now where there might be fraud...kudos to DOGE for finding it.  But so far, they've barely made a tiny dent in the deficit, let alone covering even a tiny portion of it.  Cheers!

[Xerxes]

7 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Sad part is that the Democrats have no one and nothing to rebut or fight this with.  Trott out Nancy Pelosi...have poor one-legged Texas senator Al Green stand on one leg and protest, then have him marched out.  Like is this the best the Democrats can do?  And some of the issues that are important to both parties and Americans were never dealt with.  So now the Dems sit and watch and twiddle their thumbs because there is no Obama or Bill Clinton coming to the rescue this time.  Cheers!

they are not suppose to talk during State of Union. I think the rebuttal is after 

 

in any case, I am done watching this. Was watching White Lotus just before. Now that was entertaining. 
 

Xerxes out 

[Mephistopheles]

1 hour ago, Xerxes said:

they are not suppose to talk during State of Union. I think the rebuttal is after 

 

in any case, I am done watching this. Was watching White Lotus just before. Now that was entertaining. 
 

Xerxes out 

 
Imagine the hell that would have ensued had they marched Marjorie Greene out when she was yelling out to Biden.

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, Xerxes said:

all I want to know is the CAGR for that +300 year old person owning bunch of land and railroad   …. Post-1776 anyways 

 

@Xerxes,

 

CNN Politics [March 4^th 2025] : Fact-checking Trump’s address to Congress.

[Red Lion]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

Like is this the best the Democrats can do? 

 

You just summed up why Donald Trump got re-elected. 

[Mephistopheles]

1 minute ago, Red Lion said:

 

You just summed up why Donald Trump got re-elected. 

+1000

 

The party is full of a bunch of losers.

 

maybe we need a tectonic shift in the parties like what happened after civil rights.

 

The GOP can be the party of tarriffs, entitlements, blue collar workers and isolationism.

 

Golden opportunity for the Dems to go full in on business, free trade and global alliances. Just need to dump the trans cult and green cult. 

[Parsad]

3 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

 

You just summed up why Donald Trump got re-elected. 

 

That and some latent racist/nationalistic/anti-immigrant tendencies sprouting up in the general populace.  There's more to unpack than just the Dems don't have a real leader.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

1 minute ago, Mephistopheles said:

+1000

 

The party is full of a bunch of losers.

 

maybe we need a tectonic shift in the parties like what happened after civil rights.

 

The GOP can be the party of tarriffs, entitlements, blue collar workers and isolationism.

 

Golden opportunity for the Dems to go full in on business, free trade and global alliances. Just need to dump the trans cult and green cult. 

 

That's actually probably correct.  Dems need to go centrist and right wing Reagan.  Current GOP is some other animal...like the worst personalities you could put together in a lab!  And the left-wing nutjobs in the Democratic party...need to go.  Cheers!

[whiskybravo]

3 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said:

 

 

Golden opportunity for the Dems to go full in on business, free trade and global alliances. Just need to dump the trans cult and green cult. 

To do that successfully, they would have to expedite permitting, deregulate, etc.  Not in their DNA.

[Mephistopheles]

2 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

To do that successfully, they would have to expedite permitting, deregulate, etc.  Not in their DNA.

 Yea. They need a new generation of sane people.

 

Bill Maher did a great segment on this last week.

[Red Lion]

6 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

That and some latent racist/nationalistic/anti-immigrant tendencies sprouting up in the general populace.  There's more to unpack than just the Dems don't have a real leader.  Cheers!

 

I just wrote a great response and somehow lost it. So a quicker and dirtier response:

 

1) There's always been a latent racist/nationalistic/anti-immigrant group in America.

2) Yet more women and minorities voted for Trump in 2024 than in 2016 or 2020. 

3) This is an issue of the Democrats moving to the (minority) progressive persuasion of their party even though the American people can't stand it

4) The middle moves elections, not the entrenched voters on both sides, and the Democrats of the last few years have moved so far out of line with the American people that they held their nose and voted for Donald Trump. 

5) I bet John Fetterman would have won. Not because he's a white, working class man's man (although I'm sure some voters would love that), but because he's a centrist

6) All great Democrat presidents (except perhaps FDR) have been centrists. 

[Mephistopheles]

Yep. Trump got record Hispanic vote, record black vote.

 

Looks like none of that Latinx and BLM crap had an effect on the intended targets did it? 

 

Bunch of fucking tools. 

Edited yesterday at 05:42 AM by Mephistopheles

[Parsad]

54 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

 

 

5) I bet John Fetterman would have won. Not because he's a white, working class man's man (although I'm sure some voters would love that), but because he's a centrist

 

 

Would they let him in the White House in shorts and a hoodie?  Yet, somehow he got into the Presidential Inauguration and no one cared.  So it's not exactly just middle America picking sides.  There's a definite...you can do this and you can't...just the other side of the spectrum now.

 

I still think overall it was really...so this what we have to choose from?  One loser versus the other?  We'll take the devil we know.  Cheers!

[james22]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

. . . some latent racist/nationalistic/anti-immigrant tendencies sprouting up in the general populace. 

 

Reaction to that belief is also why Donald Trump got re-elected. 

[Paarslaars]

 

This aged poorly.  

 

4 hours ago, Parsad said:

That and some latent racist/nationalistic/anti-immigrant tendencies sprouting up in the general populace. 

 

You're not really objective on this topic in my opinion.  Some of the finest people I know come from immigrant backgrounds and yet I am strongly opposed to the current immigration policies in most of the western world. This is nothing 'latent', this is purely based on statistical evidence I am presented with. We are getting overrun by more people we can handle, many are refusing to accept western laws/values and vastly increase the crime rates of the countries they move to. Mainly middle-east & sub-Sahara African immigrants ruining it for the rest but oh well...

Edited yesterday at 09:01 AM by Paarslaars

[Ulti]

4 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

That's actually probably correct.  Dems need to go centrist and right wing Reagan.  Current GOP is some other animal...like the worst personalities you could put together in a lab!  And the left-wing nutjobs in the Democratic party...need to go.  Cheers!

No argument from me; I totally agree… Both sides are equally corrupt… one thing being failed to mention ( and I left the ballot blank because of this) …. Was having a mentally challenged president who had promised to be one term …. Running again and not having a democratic primary to allow me to vote for my candidate of choice….instead having a progressive Cali who came in dead last last time she ran and her equally progressive VP pick .  A centrist candidate or even if a centrist VP was picked… would have done much to persuade centrist like myself to vote for the Dems

[73 Reds]

8 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

That's actually probably correct.  Dems need to go centrist and right wing Reagan.  Current GOP is some other animal...like the worst personalities you could put together in a lab!  And the left-wing nutjobs in the Democratic party...need to go.  Cheers!

So basically.... everyone needs to go.  Got any replacements in mind?

[whiskybravo]

4 hours ago, Paarslaars said:

 

This aged poorly.  

 

 

You're not really objective on this topic in my opinion.  Some of the finest people I know come from immigrant backgrounds and yet I am strongly opposed to the current immigration policies in most of the western world. This is nothing 'latent', this is purely based on statistical evidence I am presented with. We are getting overrun by more people we can handle, many are refusing to accept western laws/values and vastly increase the crime rates of the countries they move to. Mainly middle-east & sub-Sahara African immigrants ruining it for the rest but oh well...

My anecdotal experience supports what you say.  I live in a full service NYC condo.  The 50 odd employees are predominantly people of color, many of whom were born in other countries.  They are basically all Trumpsters.

I asked one of the Puerto Rican guys what he thought of the term Latinx.  He made a disgusted look on his face.  He said when he sees a BLM sign he wants to rip it down.  He asked me “why white women so stupid”? 

An African immigrant was robbed and beaten in the subway.  He said that he doesn’t respect black Americans.  These guys scoffed at Biden’s open borders to illegal migrants, because they came here legally.  
 

Regarding the idea that Trump hasn’t accomplished anything yet.  I can tell you the illegal migrants here in NYC have vanished.  Very noticeable.

 

 

[Xerxes]

The last ten posts have nothing to do with Ukraine 

[james22]

1 minute ago, Xerxes said:

The last ten posts have nothing to do with Ukraine 

 

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.