Blake Hampton Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, flesh said: I loved that he called her out and said "many people hate you the mainstream media", IMO we need more of that. They aren't journalists, it's all fox news now. The are framers/perpetuators of x ideas, it's not like they are truth seeking, although for some that may rank number 4 or 5 on the list, if they have the time and can fit it in. The economist has gone downhill for a decade. The funny thing is that attacking the media is exactly what a free speech absolutist would do, the opposite of hypocritical. Speaking harsh words is the only kind of free speech that matters. Lol, people don’t even know what mainstream media is. I imagine the only thought the average American can squeeze out anymore between their TikToks and Facebook Reels is 'Me hungry.' The Economist remains great and Elon Musk is a mentally ill buffoon.
Blake Hampton Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Wouldn’t it be something if Elon put as much energy into his 5 million kids as he does supporting facists, going on X tirades, and destroying global aid? What a fucking goofball.
Spekulatius Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: Lol, people don’t even know what mainstream media is. I imagine the only thought the average American can squeeze out anymore between their TikToks and Facebook Reels is 'Me hungry.' The Economist remains great and Elon Musk is a mentally ill buffoon. The Economist isn’t even “mainstream media”. Thats already nonsense. 80% of MAGA doesn’t even know that this publication exists. Elon is just making stuff up (like crime rate being high on London) and when a journalist point out that the crime rate is lower than any US city of decent size, she is now and “enemy of western civilization”. Outside of his very narrow domain, Elon is just a shill and a Luddite. No different than an actor in Hollywood. Edited 11 hours ago by Spekulatius
cwericb Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, Spekulatius said: The Economist ist even “mainstream media”. Thats already nonsense. 80% of MAGA doesn’t even know that this publication exists. What makes you think 80% of MAGA can even read? Ask their leader what was the last book he read or look how MAGA followers tend to believe the outragous lies he spouts on a daily basis.
LC Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 9 hours ago, flesh said: Speaking harsh words is the only kind of free speech that matters. Agreed 100% - but that doesn't lend the speaker any credibility. Like Musk here: he betrays himself when he refuses to acknowledge criticism of the politicians he backs in Europe ("what you're saying is total fiction"). It shows he is not a serious, credible person with reasonable ideas. That doesn't make him useless, he just has to be framed properly as a sounding board or reflection, rather than a political leader. Kind of like the crazy guy on the corner with big signs that the holocaust never happened.
Parsad Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 15 hours ago, 73 Reds said: I don't find any attempt to justify your words any better. Startling as to lack of sensitivity for folks who lost entire families and pedigrees to the likes of Hitler. "Nationalism" did not lead to Hitler and is not, in and of itself a problem. It is but one of many variables that all came together to contribute to 1930s Germany. You have a perpetual desire to always be right and ignore what anyone has to say to simply support your argument. Never did I say Trump was Hitler or like Hitler. I said his actions on the global stage could lead to another Hitler! This is why I ignored you for a period of time, and I was pleasantly happy to watch you argue with others. I'll go back to simply ignoring you and any responses you feel you have to offer to me...life's too short to waste on assholes!
73 Reds Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 hours ago, Parsad said: You have a perpetual desire to always be right and ignore what anyone has to say to simply support your argument. Never did I say Trump was Hitler or like Hitler. I said his actions on the global stage could lead to another Hitler! This is why I ignored you for a period of time, and I was pleasantly happy to watch you argue with others. I'll go back to simply ignoring you and any responses you feel you have to offer to me...life's too short to waste on assholes! Pot calling the kettle black? History, not your opining here on COBF tells us what led the rise of Germany and Hitler. There is no basis of comparison. Edited 1 hour ago by 73 Reds
John Hjorth Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 22 hours ago, Spekulatius said: Elon Musk whining about a journalist asking some real question. And pushing back on some of his nonsense . Traitor of the West. LOL In that respect, Elon Musk is just another snow flake, for sure, taking his own record of insults etc. into consideration.
LC Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago 9 hours ago, Parsad said: You have a perpetual desire to always be right and ignore what anyone has to say to simply support your argument 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: There is no basis of comparison. The older I get the more I am convinced that Irony is a constant in the universe.
Sweet Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 22 hours ago, Spekulatius said: Elon Musk whining about a journalist asking some real question. And pushing back on some of his nonsense . Traitor of the West. LOL She not a neutral commentator, she is interjecting her opinion into a question. I think Elon is a douche, but nothing hypocritical about calling how he sees it. Europe has a problem, large sections of its population, of which I include myself, want a stop to immigration right now.
Spekulatius Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago (edited) Trump., Mao and Hitler, Franco were all autocrats, so they have methods in common and goals that are different. All autocrats have in common that they believe they historic figures and above their peers and just can make up the rules rather then play by them. How far they can push it depends on how the people and institutions respond because they have by their nature very little restraint themselves. Edited just now by Spekulatius
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