Parsad Posted May 8 Posted May 8 9 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Its not only Canadian politicians. Got two waterfront condominiums here on the FL Gulf coast this winter from Canadian snowbirds who swore they weren't coming back due to Trump. Imagine boycotting a country and a nice winter lifestyle for yourself over a politician. Some people have a moral compass that they actually follow. Others can be easily bought! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted May 8 Posted May 8 3 hours ago, cwericb said: Cubs, it's not the 1950's anymore. And how did McCarthyism work out for you? CW - You definitely don't need to patronize Florida - there is always Cuba with you Commie buddies. Make sure you get there before Trump takes it over!
cubsfan Posted May 9 Posted May 9 33 minutes ago, Parsad said: Elon Musk is all about Elon Musk. He will shit on the U.S. as soon as someone offers him something better. Cheers! Good old Elon - did his job with DOGE - a great patriot. Now the shit he uncovered is starting to come out big time. All that fraud shit in Columbus Ohio with the Somali fraudsters,,, incredible - all because of Elon providing the lists & data. He made some enemies for sure - but what a service to the country exposing all the theft!
cwericb Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: CW - You definitely don't need to patronize Florida - there is always Cuba with you Commie buddies. Make sure you get there before Trump takes it over! As usual, you always dodge the facts when I present them and try to change the subject. So yes, we enjoy visiting our Cuban friends in Cuba. Their beaches, accommodations and people are second to none. We have vacationed with our Cuban friends in Canada, Cuba and in Europe - they tend to like to travel! You should visit Cuba sometime... Oh wait! I'm sorry. Cubs is not allowed to visit Cuba! What a shame. Yet Cubans and Canadians are FREE to visit any country they wish, but Americans are not allowed to visit Cuba. PS, "... Commie buddies ...." I have yet to meet a Cuban communist. All of our many Cuban friends are extremely anti-communist. Most Cubans are desperate for a change in government, but intentionally trying to starve the Cuban people, that is simply cruel and disgusting. Anyway you seem to know nothing about Cuba.
cwericb Posted May 9 Posted May 9 2 hours ago, cubsfan said: Good old Elon - did his job with DOGE - a great patriot. Now the shit he uncovered is starting to come out big time. All that fraud shit in Columbus Ohio with the Somali fraudsters,,, incredible - all because of Elon providing the lists & data. He made some enemies for sure - but what a service to the country exposing all the theft! There you go. Another Canadian helping you out.
Spekulatius Posted May 9 Posted May 9 On 5/6/2026 at 12:31 PM, 73 Reds said: No matter what degree of success we may achieve, the naysayers will always be....well, naysayers. Somehow, on this board some are able to put their short-term thinking aside when it comes to investments even though it is so obvious in their politics. It is no coincidence that two of the most successful countries in the World are also two of the youngest countries that also happen to be best allies. Each may make mistakes but the trajectory always seems to straighten itself out. It seems as if some of the rest of the World is coming around to following our example, though not necessarily countries and/or regions that we would have expected. Maybe in time. The short term thinking was many here declaring victory after Khamenei was killed on day one and talk imminent regime change.
Spekulatius Posted May 9 Posted May 9 44 minutes ago, cwericb said: As usual, you always dodge the facts when I present them and try to change the subject. So yes, we enjoy visiting our Cuban friends in Cuba. Their beaches, accommodations and people are second to none. We have vacationed with our Cuban friends in Canada, Cuba and in Europe - they tend to like to travel! You should visit Cuba sometime... Oh wait! I'm sorry. Cubs is not allowed to visit Cuba! What a shame. Yet Cubans and Canadians are FREE to visit any country they wish, but Americans are not allowed to visit Cuba. PS, "... Commie buddies ...." I have yet to meet a Cuban communist. All of our many Cuban friends are extremely anti-communist. Most Cubans are desperate for a change in government, but intentionally trying to starve the Cuban people, that is simply cruel and disgusting. Anyway you seem to know nothing about Cuba. I have been in Cuba a long time ago and it’s a great country to visit for a vacation. Not that great to live there for most people back than and that’s still true.
LC Posted May 9 Posted May 9 2 hours ago, cubsfan said: California vs Texas You laugh but rabies kills about 60k people per year....maybe its worth spending 500k annually to try and cure/prevent it!
Sweet Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, Parsad said: Some people have a moral compass that they actually follow. Others can be easily bought! Cheers! I bet they aren’t checking the labels of products for ‘made in China’, an actual authoritarian country. I can understand why they are pissed at Trump but would not go as far to say it’s a moral stance, more anger. Edited May 9 by Sweet
73 Reds Posted May 9 Posted May 9 12 hours ago, Parsad said: Some people have a moral compass that they actually follow. Others can be easily bought! Cheers! So... your moral compass is to boycott the US?
73 Reds Posted May 9 Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Spekulatius said: The short term thinking was many here declaring victory after Khamenei was killed on day one and talk imminent regime change. Who?
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 21 hours ago, Spekulatius said: I have been in Cuba a long time ago and it’s a great country to visit for a vacation. Not that great to live there for most people back than and that’s still true. Cuba has changed so much over the last 20 years or so. For instance, private enterprise has been encouraged for about the past 10 years. The problem is that because the concept of private enterprise is new to most Cubans, many don't know little about how to run a business. Some here say Cuba is a failed state and their form of government does not work. That may well be true, but I can't imagine any country doing well when it has been strangled by another country for over 60+ years.
Marco Van Basten Posted May 10 Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, cwericb said: Cuba has changed so much over the last 20 years or so. For instance, private enterprise has been encouraged for about the past 10 years. The problem is that because the concept of private enterprise is new to most Cubans, many don't know little about how to run a business. Some here say Cuba is a failed state and their form of government does not work. That may well be true, but I can't imagine any country doing well when it has been strangled by another country for over 60+ years. Do you know any country that succeeded under communism? Every country that tried communism destroyed its economy.
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 18 hours ago, Sweet said: I bet they aren’t checking the labels of products for ‘made in China’, an actual authoritarian country. I can understand why they are pissed at Trump but would not go as far to say it’s a moral stance, more anger. Just to keep things in perspective. In 2025, Canada imported $68 billion from China. Britain imported $109 billion from China. However The US imported over $308 billion from China.
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 10 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: Do you know any country that succeeded under communism? Every country that tried communism destroyed its economy. Of course not. communism takes away incentive. But do you know of any country that was under a trade embargo for over 60 years and succeeded? How many countries do you know of that were under a trade embargo for over 60 years and even survived? It is irresponsibly cruel for a country to punish a people who have no control over their government simply because your country doesn't agree with their form of government. Why is the US so scared of Cuba?
Marco Van Basten Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Of course not. communism takes away incentive. But do you know of any country that was under a trade embargo for over 60 years and succeeded? How many countries do you know of that were under a trade embargo for over 60 years and even survived? It is irresponsibly cruel for a country to punish a people who have no control over their government simply because your country doesn't agree with their form of government. Why is the US so scared of Cuba? Given that every country that tried communism ended up dirt poor, and all but one did not have an embargo, with the ussr being blessed with the most natural resources per capita in the world, let’s not lie here. Cuba would have been dirt poor without embargo. You clearly did not live in a communist country, I did. We did not food in the shops, and there was no embargo against my country. The fault is not with the embargo, it is with communism. As an aside, if you steal American property don’t expect America to trade with you.
Sweet Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, cwericb said: Just to keep things in perspective. In 2025, Canada imported $68 billion from China. Britain imported $109 billion from China. However The US imported over $308 billion from China. Don't think that’s a useful perspective. The ordinary person doesn’t influence government policy and they can’t control what others buy, but they can control what they buy. If you are buying / selling based on Trump I get it. However if you aren’t doing the same for Chinese products, or Russian products… well then it’s not really morality. It’s probably anger - which btw I think is fair enough! Edited May 10 by Sweet
Parsad Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 hours ago, cwericb said: Of course not. communism takes away incentive. But do you know of any country that was under a trade embargo for over 60 years and succeeded? How many countries do you know of that were under a trade embargo for over 60 years and even survived? It is irresponsibly cruel for a country to punish a people who have no control over their government simply because your country doesn't agree with their form of government. Why is the US so scared of Cuba? I agree on the duration of embargo...that's just pure retribution. But on the original reason for the embargo...well warranted when Cuba let Russia move nuclear weapons into Cuba. Whether it was the government or the people...doesn't matter...not unlike Iran seeking nuclear weapons. But yeah, after 60 years...the existing embargo basically kept a brain-dead patient alive on life support. Actually what Trump did is more merciful, because it is highly likely this government will now die. The hope is that things turn out better for the Cuban people from what happens in the future! Cheers!
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 7 hours ago, Sweet said: Don't think that’s a useful perspective. The ordinary person doesn’t influence government policy and they can’t control what others buy, but they can control what they buy. If you are buying / selling based on Trump I get it. However if you aren’t doing the same for Chinese products, or Russian products… well then it’s not really morality. It’s probably anger - which btw I think is fair enough! Well... Neither China nor Russia routinely and openly threatens to take over Canada. Neither China nor Russia has ever tried to punish the Canada's economy. Neither China nor Russia constantly and openly lies and insults Canada. Neither China nor Russia has had Canada's military support in it's numerous wars. One could could go on ... The United States Government under Trump has done, and is still doing everything they can to destroy the Canadian - American relationship. It will eventually improve, but it will never return to what it was. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And who gains from this? Trumps best friends in China, Russia and North Korea. Sad.
dwy000 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 17 minutes ago, cwericb said: Well... Neither China nor Russia routinely and openly threatens to take over Canada. Neither China nor Russia has ever tried to punish the Canada's economy. Neither China nor Russia constantly and openly lies and insults Canada. Neither China nor Russia has had Canada's military support in it's numerous wars. One could could go on ... The United States Government under Trump has done, and is still doing everything they can to destroy the Canadian - American relationship. It will eventually improve, but it will never return to what it was. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And who gains from this? Trumps best friends in China, Russia and North Korea. Sad. You could replace Canada with most European countries in that statement and it would still be true. In a volatile, changing, interconnected geopolitical world, allies and alliances are more important than ever. And the longer term harm done to US allies in the past year is immeasurable.
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 11 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said: Given that every country that tried communism ended up dirt poor, and all but one did not have an embargo, with the ussr being blessed with the most natural resources per capita in the world, let’s not lie here. Cuba would have been dirt poor without embargo. You clearly did not live in a communist country, I did. We did not food in the shops, and there was no embargo against my country. The fault is not with the embargo, it is with communism. As an aside, if you steal American property don’t expect America to trade with you. Oh believe me, I have seen empty shelves in Cuba and I have seen full shelves in Cuba - depending on the state of the American embargo. But the shelves were empty because Cuba is prevented from importing supplies due to the American embargo on imports. And the shelves are empty because of a lack of money because Cuba is prevented from exporting their products again, because of the American embargo. Now it may well be that the Cuban economy is in the toilet because of communism, but how do you know that, because if any small country is prevented from importing and exporting goods it is going to have a sick economy.
Sweet Posted May 10 Posted May 10 29 minutes ago, cwericb said: Well... Neither China nor Russia routinely and openly threatens to take over Canada. Neither China nor Russia has ever tried to punish the Canada's economy. Neither China nor Russia constantly and openly lies and insults Canada. Neither China nor Russia has had Canada's military support in it's numerous wars. One could could go on ... The United States Government under Trump has done, and is still doing everything they can to destroy the Canadian - American relationship. It will eventually improve, but it will never return to what it was. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And who gains from this? Trumps best friends in China, Russia and North Korea. Sad. Whenever Trump is out of office the relationship will likely return to something near normality. Your problem, and that of other Canadians is Trump rather than America per se. Again, don’t see it as a moral problem, just because Putin or Xi plays nice publicly doesn’t mean they or their governments are moral. The selective moralising proves it’s really about anger and hatred of Trump - which is OK.
cwericb Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 minute ago, dwy000 said: You could replace Canada with most European countries in that statement and it would still be true. In a volatile, changing, interconnected geopolitical world, allies and alliances are more important than ever. And the longer term harm done to US allies in the past year is immeasurable. Yeah. You have to really wonder what the motive is behind this. It is pretty obvious that Russia, North Korea and China are the big benefactors of U.S. destroying all its relations with it allies. Years ago, before Trump showed any great interest in politics, I read of his supposed connections to the Russian mob in New York. But who knows?
Lazarus Posted May 10 Posted May 10 On 5/8/2026 at 7:28 PM, Parsad said: Elon Musk is all about Elon Musk. He will shit on the U.S. as soon as someone offers him something better. Cheers! We can disagree about that. The point is that Elon was a Canadian citizen but he fled to the USA as soon as possible since it is provides a vastly better business environment. But if you prefer, you can let your dislike of Elon overshadow that point instead of recognizing that Canada has a lot of room to improve.
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