Marco Van Basten Posted January 25 Posted January 25 21 minutes ago, dwy000 said: According to most Republicans you should be allowed to go anywhere you want with a gun as long as you have a permit. He literally did nothing wrong and did not break the law yet got shot, what, 11 times? Why are you trying to put it back on him instead of the people who shot him 11 times because he filmed them. When did I say that it was his fault? I said that what he did was an incredibly stupid thing to do. I have a first amendment right to walk through a black neighborhood with a very high crime rate with a large placard saying that blacks are disproportionately on welfare, medicaid and commit a disproportionate number of crimes. What do you think will happen to me? The right to do something does not mean that is it a smart thing to do. My goal is to learn from other people's mistakes, your goal sees to be to argue. Good luck to you.
Mephistopheles Posted January 25 Posted January 25 There is no sign he was resisting. In fact he had his left hand up to show he’s not resisting. His right hand was holding the camera. He was helping the woman, he was pepper sprayed and pushed to the ground. I fail to see how he was resisting. Fascists
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 29 minutes ago, Luke said: It will be fascinating to see at which point in time even @cubsfanbreaks down and cant deny how rotten the current development is. The moment is not there yet but i think its likely to come by this year. Never gonna happen. Even if the gestapo finds out he doesn't pass the racial purity test, he'll proclaim his loyalty to the bitter end. Some people are just stupid like that.
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 15 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: When did I say that it was his fault? I said that what he did was an incredibly stupid thing to do. I have a first amendment right to walk through a black neighborhood with a very high crime rate with a large placard saying that blacks are disproportionately on welfare, medicaid and commit a disproportionate number of crimes. What do you think will happen to me? The right to do something does not mean that is it a smart thing to do. My goal is to learn from other people's mistakes, your goal sees to be to argue. Good luck to you. If that means, as you suggested for your first recommendation, that people should stop protesting then its society and the US that loses.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said: There is no sign he was resisting. In fact he had his left hand up to show he’s not resisting. His right hand was holding the camera. He was helping the woman, he was pepper sprayed and pushed to the ground. I fail to see how he was resisting. Fascists You don't get to rewrite history. Even multiple police officers can not get the man to comply. He is actively resisting - an extremely dangerous situation for law enforcement considering Alex was heavily armed. Like Marco says: Poor life choices. Tragic.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, dwy000 said: If that means, as you suggested for your first recommendation, that people should stop protesting then its society and the US that loses. Simple rules: - Don't go to a "peaceful protest" heavily armed - Don't interfere with Law enforcement - If you are stupid enough to do the above- then DO NOT resist law enforcement commands to cease and desist. Otherwise, you may get yourself/others killed.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Imagine if the troops started showing up to protect and serve. minnesota national guard.mp4 No donuts for nazis.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Here's a shot from a stop the steal protest in Olympia Washington on Jan 6. No donuts for these nazi's either.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 At least we don't have to listen to charlie kirk's take on this.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: At least we don't have to listen to charlie kirk's take on this. You of all people would celebrate his death. Par for the course.
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 44 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Imagine if the troops started showing up to protect and serve. minnesota national guard.mp4 3.23 MB · 0 downloads No donuts for nazis. Those are Nationa Guard called by Walz.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Marco Van Basten said: When did I say that it was his fault? I said that what he did was an incredibly stupid thing to do. I have a first amendment right to walk through a black neighborhood with a very high crime rate with a large placard saying that blacks are disproportionately on welfare, medicaid and commit a disproportionate number of crimes. What do you think will happen to me? The right to do something does not mean that is it a smart thing to do. My goal is to learn from other people's mistakes, your goal sees to be to argue. Good luck to you. As Marco was saying - incredibly stupid thing to do. Never interfere or resist when you are armed. But why would you have to actually tell that to someone, when it is common sense?? See Minnesota State Law Section 609.71 Subd. 2.Riot second degree. When three or more persons assembled disturb the public peace by an intentional act or threat of unlawful force or violence to person or property, each participant who is armed with a dangerous weapon or knows that any other participant is armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of riot second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Those are Nationa Guard called by Walz. TFW, the good guys finally show up. No donuts for nazis.
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: LOL, brainwashed dumbfuck….oh Timmy sent em. Not nazis! How stupid can you possibly be that you'd think I didn't know what I was posting? Go ahead and show how obtuse you are by calling me Doug again.
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 The part where I said no donuts for nazis meant that ice agents would get no donuts. Enjoy your stupidity.
Castanza Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 hours ago, cubsfan said: You don't get to rewrite history. Even multiple police officers can not get the man to comply. He is actively resisting - an extremely dangerous situation for law enforcement considering Alex was heavily armed. Like Marco says: Poor life choices. Tragic. Heavily armed?! He was legally carrying a holstered handgun. Can you even articulate a crime he committed? How about a reasonable justification for use of deadly force. A holstered firearm is not grounds for such actions. He was detained when shot.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Castanza said: Heavily armed?! He was legally carrying a holstered handgun. Can you even articulate a crime he committed? How about a reasonable justification for use of deadly force. A holstered firearm is not grounds for such actions. He was detained when shot. If Alex was carrying a fully loaded gun with 30+ rounds of ammunition - how many people are in danger? What is the purpose of all that ammunition? Why in the world would you bring that much firepower to a "peaceful protest"?
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: If Alex was carrying a fully loaded gun with 30+ rounds of ammunition - how many people are in danger? What is the purpose of all that ammunition? Why in the world would you bring that much firepower to a "peaceful protest"? Look, he was clearly dumb for getting all wrapped up in the political rage and active protests(again apparently per his father this had recently become a regular activity of his), but if that’s the bar for getting killed by law enforcement why even have a second amendment? That’s the issue. Can a person carrying via their second amendment rights have an encounter with law enforcement that isn’t a mandatory death sentence? I would like to think so. As for why bring that much ammo….i mean did you see this shithole during the 2020 Summer of Love? Barely discernible from Chicago.
Castanza Posted January 26 Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, cubsfan said: If Alex was carrying a fully loaded gun with 30+ rounds of ammunition - how many people are in danger? What is the purpose of all that ammunition? Why in the world would you bring that much firepower to a "peaceful protest"? It was a Glock 19 (same one I have a CCW for) Capacity is 15 rounds and having an extra mag is pretty standard for many CCW. I mean the ICE thug needed 11 rounds to murder a detained man. You can say it wasn’t wise to bring a firearm to a protest (I would agree). You can say that he violated some riot law and deserved to be detained since there was some conflict with police even if he did or didn’t resist. But there was zero justification for the shooting. Even the NRA which is a garbage organization regarding the 2A is slamming Trump and law enforcement for this.
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Republicans, Alex Pretti should be your breaking point | Opinion https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/01/25/alex-pretti-minneapolis-shooting-ice-minnesota/88351967007/ Mike Johnson: Who is Alex Pretti? I don't know anything about that.
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: How stupid can you possibly be that you'd think I didn't know what I was posting? Go ahead and show how obtuse you are by calling me Doug again.
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, Castanza said: It was a Glock 19 (same one I have a CCW for) Capacity is 15 rounds and having an extra mag is pretty standard for many CCW. I mean the ICE thug needed 11 rounds to murder a detained man. You can say it wasn’t wise to bring a firearm to a protest (I would agree). You can say that he violated some riot law and deserved to be detained since there was some conflict with police even if he did or didn’t resist. But there was zero justification for the shooting. Even the NRA which is a garbage organization regarding the 2A is slamming Trump and law enforcement for this. Protesters inside the Michigan state capitol April of 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/michigan-state-capitol.html
Mephistopheles Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Shot in the back execution style after being pepper sprayed after helping a woman who was pushed to the ground. It’s hard to watch
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, Castanza said: It was a Glock 19 (same one I have a CCW for) Capacity is 15 rounds and having an extra mag is pretty standard for many CCW. I mean the ICE thug needed 11 rounds to murder a detained man. You can say it wasn’t wise to bring a firearm to a protest (I would agree). You can say that he violated some riot law and deserved to be detained since there was some conflict with police even if he did or didn’t resist. But there was zero justification for the shooting. Even the NRA which is a garbage organization regarding the 2A is slamming Trump and law enforcement for this. The man had 30-50 rounds of ammo. Why? He had a conceal carry license. Great. He immediately needs to realize he's a dangerous individual - and of course law enforcement would think so. They know nothing about the individual other than he won't listen to commands. Why did he not comply? Why did he resist law enforcement? Why would he do that? You guys are all saying it's perfectly ok for law enforcement to blow away someone who is unarmed and climbing through a window. But a guy that is heavily armed and resisting is NOT a threat to law enforcement. Circular logic, liberal logic got this guy killed.
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